8600GT in 14" F8Sv??

i was thinking of getting the F8Sv and saw that on excaliburpc.com and gentec that it comes with a 8600GT video card. i thought 14" laptops cant handle the heat, is it a gimped version? if so, how will the performance likely be? any resellers with info?

 

It's not out yet...

 

well it looks like it can handle the heat.
If you look at the asus website http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1592&l1=5&l2=23&l3=521&l4=31
it does show 8600gt. this notebook as said above is not out and you can expect delays.

 

F8sv is already out in Taiwan (with HD2600 and T7500) for about $1400. Interestingly, V2 with GS is about the same price (or slightly less).

http://shopping.pchome.com.tw/?mod=item&func=exhibit&IT_NO=DHAA1D-A16362567&SR_NO=AAAK43&ROWNO=11

 

Is it gddr2 or gddr3?

 

ddr2 almost for sure =) Asus won't be killing its own g1s

 

Yes... It's DDR2 unfortunately.

 

, looks like there is no 14" gaming solution...... i'll be buying the g1s-a1 i guess

........ im still going to wait for the release, i dont see it possible for asus to cripple two systems like this

 

Dude, DDR2 really isn't that that bad and all your looking at is about 200 more points in 3DMark'06.

 

Well, ive never had to deal with ddr for gpu's in the past, and this stuff is making me scratch my head

sooooo, 8600 gs < 8600 gt ddr2 < 8600 gt ddr3?

if i overclock the 8600gt ddr2, can i get it to perform like a stock 8600gt ddr3? please answer because this is my deciding issue between buying the f8sv or the g1s, thanks in advance

 

You can overclock the DD2 8600 GT to preform like a DD3 8600 GT. The obvious difference being with the DD3 one you can overclock much higher.

 

another thing to keep in mind was that the V2S was also a 14" with only a 8600GS card and that was gimped. Think about the same thing but with an even more powerful card, a 8600GT. In my mind, its just not possible that its a normal card and has not been gimped by asus. Otherwise they wouldn't have done it to the V2S in the first place. And the V2S is also another couple hundred dollars more.

 

This is a F8sa, though. F8sv uses 8600M GT with 256 MB VRAM according to the specs -- AFAIK, the 8600M GT with 256 MB VRAM out there are all GDDR3?

 

G2P, how long are the delays likely to be? when will it be out? and will this model be realeased in Australia? anyone with any ideas?

 

No... the 256mb has nothing to do with DD3 or DD2... The F8 has a DD2 card, and the C90s and the G1s have the DD3 card. period.

 

If the ASUS F8sv had a ddr3 card, it would be the best 14inch gaming notebook.period.

 

vram just means video ram...

 

Nope. There are many 256MB DDR2 8600GTs: Vostro 1500, Inspiron 1520, Acer 5920, and a few others. However, all of the 512MB 8600GTs are DDR2, and the only 128MB 8600GT (in the base MBP) is a GDDR3 version.

As of now, it seems highly likely that the 8600GT in the F8Sv is going to be DDR2. There really isn't that much difference in real life gaming, though you do gain a few hundred points in synthetic benchmarks.

 

If they don't kill the video card, which I don't expect, since this is being hyped as a replacement a8js, it should be a pretty kick ass little 14 inch notebook for the price range. The a8 was sold as a high end video in a small package. The V2, by contrast is a business notebook. Being a business notebook they have to have realistic battery life to sell. I hate that they did it, cause I would have loved a V2 with a 8600GT that wasn't hacked up. It would have been the perfect replacement for the w3j. I do expect them to run the new f8 with ddr2 though. They will have lots of heat to displace, starting with ddr2 instead of gddr3 gives them a lot less to start with.

 

Yeah, you are right, there are 256MB GDDR cards out there. The performance difference is probably not going to be night and day, but still for the same amount of money, I would get GDDR3 instead of GDDR2.

As for whether this one is a GDDR3 or GDDR2, I will just keep praying that it is GDDR3...

 

Damn Asus, cant they just come out and tell us, the V1s were a big disappointment to some people with the gimped 8600GS, i dont want that to happen, and returns would be hard as im thinking of purchasing off US site and i live in AUS. any with news, please post.

 

I ordered a F8sv (preordered) today. This will be to replace a w7j. While I have liked the w7, I wanted a slightly larger notebook to travel with. I am probably going to try and run xp in a dual boot as vista doe not like many of my programs. Build quality is my major concern, I am hopeful the f8 is reasonably sturdy.

 

Correction, The US, Asia, and UK versions of the V2S got the 8600GS, The aussie version for whatever bizarre reason got the GT, The model number is ASUS V2S-4S031G Its still DDR2 though

 

is there a huge difference between 8600GT and 8600GS cuz i've been reading that V2S is better than F8SV other than the video card....
can someone help me out?

 

The V2S is a business model, As such its supposed to be sturdier and better built. They both have the same screen res, HD size, Ram size/speed, CPU.
The differences are build quality, HDMI, and E-Sata are all on the V2s. The f8SV is 0.8lbs heavier, And has the 8600GT, and is about $200 less.

 

if this is fact, id pay alot to get my hands on an aussie v2s!

 

The V2s looks like it is pricing around $2600 australian dollars or roughly $2400 US dollars, whereas the same v2s at excaliber is priced around $1800 US with of course the 8600gs card vs the gt.

 

wut would be a better deal?
its almost the same price, except v2 has gs and f8 has gt
is there a noticeable difference in performance?

 

From my understanding, the video card is the only performance difference....... also, the two laptops should have a different build quality (V2 quality > F8 quality), but that should only be marginal

use search for comparisons between 8600 gs and 8600 gt. The 8600 gt is faster but there is a lot of stuff to factor in for a purchase. One being form factor, i really want the f8 to have ddr3, but since it is a 14" screen, its not completely necessary to have the extra power (just realizing that after doing some research), i should be getting this laptop, if it ever gets released

*just realized this question has been asked and answered all ready.....

 

Why is a full 8600GT GDDR2 not possible in a 14"? Let me point out that Zepto 6224W was released a while ago and it has a full 8600GT GDDR2.

T61p has a FX570, which is actually a 8600GT GDDR3, but that it's indeed gimped in the 14" version and it performs like a 8600GT GDDR2.

Hence, 8600GT GDDR2 is actually not news in 14"ers, but GDDR3 has yet to show its face in this form factor.

If the 8600GT in F8SV is in fact a GDDR3, I would be immediately sold, no matter the price.

 

oh srry, didn't know
i've waited since summer for f8sv, cuz i thought it was gonna be better, now i realized that that its only better in terms of graphics

r u going for the f8sv still?
i'm not sure anymore now...

 

However, keep in mind that the 8600GS in the V2S is severely crippled, and performs around equivalent to the 8400GS. Thus, it really isn't worth what you pay for it - you'd be better off with something from a different manufacturer.

I'd love to see the Aussie V2S in the US - presumably it would only be around $2000. It'd at least not be disappointingly bad, even if it still won't be as good as the W3J was (since the W3J is the best notebook ever made....)

 

haha, okay, that makes me feel a bit better, so i guess f8sv is the way to go?
do u think the aussie v2s will ever make it to north america?

 

Honestly, after reading the reviews and researching a bit, GDDR2 is no longer a make or breaker for me. The only thing im caught up now on is the form factor.

Face it... THE V2S IS SEXY IN BLACK! The f8 looks sorta like a hp pavalion... I HAVE A HP PAVALION! ITS QUIET BORING!

v2s

f8

hp pavilion


looks arent everything, but theres not a lot of WOW in the f8, not to mention there are a few ports missing. I wanted to buy a 20" monitor to watch movies on (low res i guess for a 20", 1440*900), but the f8 doesnt have that.

Overall tho, i have to go with whats future proof and budget friendly, the f8 can handle the games (res 1024 ain't that bad) and has the performance i need to last me the full 2 years that the warranty carries.

*Also, i kinda want the g1s, but i dont want another 15" bolder weighing down my backpack, thats why the f8 is just right for me, although the g1s looks like it could kick teh f8's @ss

 

im not sure what you mean the aussie version of the v1s, ive got the "Greenguide" here (a newspaper listing all the computers up for sale from major retailers) and all the V1s says it comes with 8600GS 256gddr2 or 8600GS 512gddr2, no 8600GT to be seen. unless its in other states, as im in melbourne, victoria.

 

Huh? What are you guys talking about?

The V 1S is a 15" and has 8600GT GDDR3 (think of it as a G1S without a gamer exterior)

The V 2S is a 14" and has 8600GS (which is crippled)

 

Jarson a simple online search shows,
http://www.lmc.com.au/products/Laptops_and_Notebooks/Asus_Laptops/563487/Asus_Notebook_V2S-4S031G
http://www.newcomputers.com.au/prod...=376&productID=17287&template=productDetailed
http://www.computertarget.com.au/os...=1237&osCsid=b372c55b15b91db0c31b773b5d682757
http://www.nexus.com.au/catalog/pro...d=657&osCsid=79eda89f1b8d4eff220385869dac68a1

8600GT ^_^ Australia only though.

Oh and the V1s has DDR2 not GDDR3

 

actually the V1S does not have the 8600GT GDDR3, it has the 8600GT GDDR2 which is the less powerful version. So for gaming, the G1S is still superior even with the memory difference between the two cards

 

Nice look, if i can trick one of those sites into doing some US business, i might just be okay...... who am i kinding, thats AT-LEAST $2300 USD!

Is the aussie version gddr3? i cant seem to find it listed anywhere.

 

whoops i meant the v2s. the 14' one, my friend got one, and he says his pcmark06 only managed ~1500, so he got a refund and bought a benq s41 ahah.

 

wait.. now im really confused, your links has this
Asus V2S - Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 - 2.20Ghz/2GB/160GB/14.1"
[V2S-4S031G] AU$2,530.00



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PRODUCT DETAILS

Description
3.5G Connectivity, Infinite Possibilities
Internet access anywhere with robust security features makes
the ASUS V2S notebook the ultimate mobile office

Processor Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 2.20GHz
4MB L2 Cache FSB800

Chipset Intel PM965

Memory
2*1GB DDR2 -667 DRAM support
2 x SODIMM socket for expansion up to 2048MB

Screen 14.1" WXGA+ 1440x900

Graphics NV Geforce 8600M GT, 256M (Turbo Cache 1GB)

Hard Drive SATA 160GB; support 5400RPM

Keyboard 19 mm full size 88key with MS-Windows function keys 2.5mm travel, Spill proof

LAN / Wireless 56K S/W modem
On board 10/100/1000 Mbps Fast Ethernet controller
Integrated Intel Kedron 802.11a/b/g/n
Bluetooth module v2.0+EDR

Video Camera 1.3MP WebCamera,

Operating System Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate

Inputs
1x VGA port/Mini D-sub 15-pin for external monitor
3 x USB 2.0 ports
2 Audio jack : Head phone (SPIDIF) / Mic-in
1x LAN RJ-45 and 1x Phone RJ-11 jack
1x Express Card
1x 1394 Type jack
1x TV-Out (S-video) / 1 x DVI-D
Card Reader - Seven in one card reader Built in

Audio
Built-in Azalia compliant audio chip, with 3D effect & full
duplex -:- Build-in stereo speakers (2W) and microphone.

Battery Li-Ion 8 cells: 5200mAh

Power Input 100~240V AC, 50/60Hz universal

Power Output 19V, 90W

Dimensions (WxDxH) 363 x 263 x 22-35.7 mm

Weight 2.7kg with 8 cell battery (plus travel draw)

Accessory
1GB NAND Flash Memory, Biometric Fingerprint reader, hotswap bay, docking support

a v2s (14') with GT?
so all the australian v2s (14") has GT, im pretty sure my friend had a GS, it was listed as GT and when he got it, it was a GS and the reseller apologised and said a refund was in order. can someone confirm that the GT in 14' Australian version performs properly? or is it gimped and runs like a lame 8400.

 

yea i totally agree, v2s all black is real nice
guess there's nth special bout the scratch free feature?
so r u saying i can't connect f8 to a monitor? cuz that would really suk

 

is it possible to buy v2s from australia then?
wouldn't that be the most ideal choice....
nice build of na's v2s and nice graphics of na's 8600GT

 

oh, not at all, i wasnt reading the f8's specs right, you can hook it up to a monitor

and i dont know if any of those sites will ship U.S., the two i tried didnt allow a U.S. address

 

Well I checked www.staticice.com.au every single mention of the model I checked showed 8600GT, as the V2s has been on sale here for several months now if it was a typo they would have fixed it.

Oh, Most aussie sites wont ship internationally, this is because stuff in AU is generally substantially more expensive here than it is overseas. Especially laptops, which makes no sense as our dollar buys almost 95US cents, Makes it very cheap for us to import to Aus, but expensive for foreigners to import from Australia

 

Shame you didnt do it a few weeks ago gob monster, Our dollar crashed and went down to 75c for a few days, its back up in the low to mid 90's now.

 

so i guess we got no choice but to buy from north america?

 

Asus sure is taking their time with the f8sv...I mean if Nvidia announces the 9xxx series before asus releases the f8sv I really don't see a point in getting it anymore...seriously though I've been waiting for the f8sv since forever (since the summer?)!

 

definitely too late to market with this one.

 

yea me too, been waiting since summer
guess that's the thing with tech. tho