Sunny's G51VX-RX05 Review

Just go look up the specs.....

The Q9000, although much more powerful than the P7350, won't offer a huge performance gain in games because the GPU will become the bottleneck at the 1080p resolution the reseller versions run at.

 

i look up for crysis recomended specs and it talks about a C2D or X2 2.2 processor, i just THINK (can't confirm this yet) that with the Extreme turbo enabled this baby should be enough to run the game perfect.

I'm sorry if i ask to much, but i fall in love with the quality and smoothness the game runs in that video and i just want to know if this model can run it like that .. as you can imagine here in argentina is very hard to buy this kind of notebooks with the exchange rate ... not mentioning that soon we will be victims of a tax increase of a 30% in most of the electronic articles (probably notebooks included).

Thanks again !

 

The RX05 overclocked to a reasonable amount can run Crysis at High without problems.

Very High is possible if you're willing to stand somewhat lower framrates at some times.

This is all without AA though

 

Thanks for your reply ! when you say a "reasonable amount" of how much we are talking about ? setting power 4 gear @ Extreme Turbo Mode do you think that should be enough or should i use another soft ? if i can run the game with the same smoothness and image quality of that video is enough for me ^^ no AA of course , i think it's not to necessary @ high resolutions like the one in the video.

I really aprecciate your help ..

 

What I have in my sig right now can do High fine.

Before I undervolted the GPU and could overclock even better, Crysis on Very High was playable if you could stand 20fps

 

What you have in your system can run crysis with the smoothness and graphic quality same as in that video ?

This is the first time i hear about undervolting the GPU to overclock the CPU, which is the main effect on this ? to eliminate the bottleneck ?

Thanks again ! ^^

 

Has anyone installed XP onto their G51VX?

 

It should be possible but then you're gonna be limited to 32bit which won't utilize all 4GB of RAM (XP x64 has support for everything) and some of the drivers for the touch sensitive keys or the Fn keys may not work.

 

I don't have his setup, but I think Tev said he can run very high with semi-playable framerates.

Undervolting reduces heat. Overclocking increased performance while generating more heat.

Doing both at the same time (considering you can) allows you to get a performance boost without having all the extra heat.

Just remember, with an undervolt you're unlikely to get the overclocks you could've gotten with regular voltages.

 

Thanks for your reply i just read xcskiier23's review and it looks like oclocking the CPU @ 2.5 i can get 36 fps as the video with everything @ High and no AA (using HD Res).

DOX Driver 185.85 / CPU @ 2.5 Ghz / GPU 575/980/1450
High - NO AA - 35.47
Very High - NO AA - 22.26

What is kind of curious is that using this setup :

Crysis Benchmark Tool with T9800 - 1280x720 / DX10 / 64bit
DOX Driver 185.85 / CPU @ 3.34 Ghz / GPU 600/1000/1500
High - 40.06
Very High - 26.8

he only increase 5 fps ... and the difference between both CPU is terrible.

Another thing that i can't figure out is if that oclocking is made with the Asus P4Gear or with another software ... 2.6 is the maximum that you can oclocking it safely ?

Thanks !

 

A safe overclock is one that doesn't make it go crazy hot. If you have adequete cooling--which the G51 doesn't really have--then you can push it as far as you can go. Not all components are made equal, though. Back when I still had a P7350 CPU in my G51 I could easily overclock to 2.5 GHz and have it stay stable. Tev could barely get his to 2.3. and yet another user laughs at me and does 2.6 regularly. The trick is to overclock, run Orthos for a few minutes, increase your overclock, and test again. Just be warned that if you got a godly CPU that can overclock to 2.7 I will drive to your house and punch you.

We use SetFSB to overclock. Look for directions in Tev's optimization guide.

As for Skii's scores, +5 FPS in Crysis is no mean feat. While the score seems low compared to his older setup, a combination of being graphically awesome and badly coded make Crysis a computer bully. Don't expect a magic +10 FPS.

 

Excelent ! thanks for the help .. i will read the guide carefully so i can overclock safely as possible =)

The orthos told you when you are going to up your cpu/gpu with the oc right ?

 

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Orthos is a stress test.

Let's say you overclock to 2.25 GHz at a given voltage. You run Orthos for ten minutes, and if you do not get any errors, you can try to increase your overclock. You keep on doing that until you find a clock that gives you errors. When that happens, bump back down to your last stable clock and run Orthos for twenty minutes to ensure stability.

 

Excelent thanks !

 

Now I will try to get 2.7ghz Stable, so when forge comes to my house, I can whoop his butt and take all the pie ;3

 

I should say, that's without overvolting. That would be cheating.

 

You can't overvolt the p7350, it's locked in Crystal. But I wouldn't want to make my CPU hit 75c.. It's bad enough with this 2.7ghz it hits 72 if I don't keep it off my lap while playing games. I shall be in demand of pie after I triumph over Forge in the epic duel ;p I don't want to expand the forums so I'mma just send the link http://s327.photobucket.com/albums/k443/XxIchi-KunxX/?action=view&current=2-7ghz.jpg

 

I can play Crysis on Very High with 4X AA, with 22 fps average without OC or undervolt. Only with Extreme Turbo settings.

I use the mod config file found here http://crymod.com/thread.php?threadid=12717

Max GPU temp 88C using a cooler.

 

Not to take away from that, Extreme turbo is 2.15 ghz overclock. Also I'm still trying to figure out why Oblivion is bricking my system more than Crysis.

 

is the cpu upgradable in the asus g51 bestbuy if so which one would you reccomend

 

Yes, the cpu is upgradeable. I believe anything socket P will fit but the ones I've heard of X9100 and T9800 Though these are both expensive.

 

Oh good it isn't just me. So now I wonder if its the keyboard or do we have a really light stroke. I can tell you this looks like (just missed the e lol) Mac but it doesn't have the response of a Mac style keyboard. I found out im a silver premier rewards zone member so I actually had 45 days to get use to his keyboard and 42 days later i'm still missing key strokes.

Now its down to if the flaws out way the positives. If I want an illuminated keyboard I'd have (missed the h) to go to a macbook pro (leery of trying to game mmorpgs through bootcamp) or an Ailenware. Either one is a huge price jump just to have a good video card and a illuminated keyboard. I have (missed the v) until Monday to decide.

Yes boys I game..

 

Isn't this the infamous missing-keystrokes problems that older ASUS laptops also had? (M50 for instance).
If so, then have a look at the G50 lounge http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=279387, section "troubleshooting", G50V lagging/freezing and related items.

 

It doesn't seem to lag, but it definitely misses key strokes. (missed the o) I use this for work so I hae (missed the v) to watch my screen constantly especially considering I do work that deals with people information including credit card info. And now that you mention it there is a slight lag. Especially when I type fast. Nothing like the one guys 90wpm but I can't clock out 60 and there is a slight lag. I don't really catch it until I miss a keystroke. There is a slight jerk. Very subtle and easy to miss if your not looking for it.

I'm really at a loss as to what to do. Tomorrow I have make up my mind about it. I could just use an external but it defeats the purpose of why I bought a laptop to begin with.

Does anyone know if there was a fix for the slight lag issue with the other models?

 

One quick way to check is to disable the touchpad in the BIOS and/or remove the touchpad driver. If that removes the lag, then it's the same problem.

If that is the problem, then you can continue investigating the solutions in the links from the G50 lounge, as I was mentioning in the above post.

 

Great! I'll have to give that a try also when I'm back under Vista. Now currently I'm on under Express gate and so far I haven't missed a single keystroke. Now I'm wondering if its just Vista or something in there that is my problem. But under Linux its as responsive as it should be so I'm happy! I'll be out of Vista come October anyway and if all else fails I can always try and migrate to Linux.

But yep very snappy under express gate.

 

I just got a quick question. On the G51VX-RX05 how long does the 9 cell battery last. How long gaming and how long surfing the web. Is it good with movies and if so how long does it last with movies.

 

The RX05 doesnt come with a 9 cell battery. You would have to buy it yourself.

I'm thinking that under light use, maybe a little over 3 hours....not too sure on it though

 

I heard that the MSI's GX series have a similar problem with the keyboard but it was during the game, when you push more than 2 o 3 keys together (ex : w+d+shift to walk in diagonal) the keybord doesn't respond and your character keep on walking in that direction unless you quit the game. In that case the problem was solved by doing a bios upgrade, i believe that it's a matter of time for asus to release another bios update to fix this (in case the problem is the bios also).

What i can't still understand and keep me worried about is why in all the videos from youtube where people is playing Crysis @ RX05 the graphic quality looks like the HL2 and the FPS hit the ground (it seems they have around 12 - 17) and playing in high with no AA @ HD Resolution if they are almost the same nbook and the quadcore processor, as TevashSzat said before, has little effect on Crysis.

 

For the price I guess I really can't complain. Well I can but the alternative is to spend a lot more. The screen res for a book this size is to low, the keyboard is nice as long as it responds but I don't like the clicker on the track pad. Its stiff and just to clicky heh. But its not a deal breaker. I may change out the screen as soon as someone finds one that fits and posts how to swap it out.

Anyone take the brushed metal off the track pad? I'm wondering if there are buttons beneath it. I sort of feel like its the metal that's making it stiff and clicky.

 

the one in the G51VX-X1A/X2A/A1 should fit right? 1920x1080px

 

I think you can get the A1 or another better model for less money if you try to upgrade the processor and the screen of the RX05 xD

 

Well, I uploaded this vid a couple of days ago, and it shows a nice fps. All Very High, and 4X AA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oksBUGvH14E

 

hahahaah i think you can imagine who is asking you in that video , don't you ? xD after all it seems that inet is an small place


I figured out how is that the other video looks so great .. it was the motion blur effect ! can someone told me how to control the level of it so the game can run smooth as that ? it looks great really ^^

 

hahaha, small place indeed.

 

I don't think you should upgrade the screen on an RX05 lesser resolution = More FPS = More frags. You can always turn on AA in games if you're beasting them however you can't really turn down the res and get a nice looking game on a 1920x1080 or 1200 screen. Friend realised this after I told him he was a moron.

 

Yes but the low res screen for the RX05 looks like dog feces so it's not worth getting. I haven't seen the 1080p screen yet, my system arrives tomorrow, but I imagine it looks worlds better than the RX05 version.

 

I don't mind he 1366x768 max resolution. Things are sharp without hurting game performance or being too small.

 

Hello all, I just recently got my Asus laptop & I have a question about GPU overclocking.

After overclocking my GPU to 580/980/1450 & doing the furmark benchmarking test, I saved that profile & stuck with those clocks. GPU temp hit max 88C & furmark score was 3763, which was a jump from 3214@stock clocks . Also I've checked around on these forums a bit & people have stuck with similar clock speeds.

But now heres the question .... if the max values on the clock speeds are 1000/1320/2500, why hasnt anyone used speeds closer to the max values? I understand temps would fly high & cook the GPU .... but its possible to go higher than what I've seen people have, with cooling pads easily ..... right? I didnt try going higher since its 5AM here :O & for now its good enough ..... So I thought I'd ask before trying it later.

PS : I'm using dox drivers & running win 7 & [email protected]

 

Once you've used a laptop with a good screen (e.g. Dell Studio XPS 16) you will want to poke your eyes out after using the junk screen on the RX05. Terrible viewing angles, washed out colors, poor color gamut..bleh..pure rubbish. That's why I held out and waited until the 1080p version of the G51 became available, I'm counting on it to be at least close to the Dell.

 

I had 1080p on my G50vt-X6. It was just okay. Don't know about how it stacks in the brightness and color department, but I couldn't run it at native. It was like trying to click on fleas.

 

If i want to upgrade my processor (not to a QCore but to a Centrino C2D) which is the best processor i can get ? The T9800 @ 2.93 ?

 

T9900 at 3.0 GHz.

 

Why do people get so worked up over screens that are not 1080p? We are talking about a 15" screen, not a 42" flatscreen television. The noticeable difference between 1080p and 720p is pretty small in both movies and games. Sit back a little from the screen and there is NO difference unless you have better sight than superman. The 1080p resolution will give you more real estate on your desktop for browsing and such but letters and icons start getting a little small too. I am not saying 1080p is bad, more pixels means more detail but to call a 720p screen crap is pretty extreme. I am only talking resolution not color/saturation/contrast/backlighting. For gaming alone I see playing smoothly in a native resolution that is HD as a bigger plus than the small amount of real estate gained at the cost of FPS.

Honestly I think preferances and personal use dictate which screen size is better for who. If someone watched movies, did editing, and gamed on the side I would say the 1080p is a good choice. If you are primarily playing games and on the side you watch movies or surfing the web the 720p will be fine on a small screen and will help your gaming (native rez, higher and smoother fps).

 

When I commented on the RX05 screen, I was speaking specifically in terms of screen quality.

 

wouldn't it be the X9100?

 

The X9100 and T9900 would give about the same performance, and the X9100 runs hotter. The Xtreme line's claim to fame is unlocked multipliers (which allow overclocking without FSB), but since the Asus BIOS locks out higher multipliers, there is no gain.

 

I have a Samsung 24 inch screen, trust me I've seen good screens and the 260M is not up to match with a 1920x1200 in most (Modern) games. Definitely need a better laptop if you want to play that res, I'd rather turn up the AA, and the OLED keeps things sharp and crisp.

 

First it's 1920x1080p and the 260m can run just about every game out there on high at native res with the exception of Crysis. If my ATi 4670 was doing it, it should be no issue for the 260m.

 

It is NOT an OLED! It's and LCD with LED backlight.