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I see, I thought AF were involved in your runs as well as dtwn's runs. btw how much of an effect would AF have though performance wise? And if it were without AF, shouldn't dtwn's runs be higher if anything?

Edit, n/m I saw. I guess additional horizontal pixels do more harm than vertical expansion, and I think that may also be the reason why we're seeing a huge movement from 16:10 to 16:9 other than the price of manufacturing it.

 

While I did take the time to install the game aka Dawn of War II, I have not actually played it yet as my computer time has pretty much been tied up 100% with Warhammer Online.

Unfortunately I have grown tired of the repeated lock ups at start up so I have initiated the RMA process with ASUS and it will be "going home".

 

Hey All! I think I am going to order the ASUS W90Vp-A1 through Xotic this weekend. I hope everything is worked out with vid cards.

Question on the Drives, don't they give you a Raid option?

 

Unless your running DX9 crysis, AF does not work. if you want it in DX10 you can disable parallax occlusion mapping(through the console or .cfg) and it will work in DX10.

 

There is a raid setting in the bios .

 

i could have sworn in that video someone made there was a raid option ?

Was AHCI,IDE,RAID or am i mistaken ?

 

Interesting, thanks for the info.

 

AF works, but you have to run it from your nvidia control panel or add on software.

im still stuck on how AA kills a gtx!

 

Ya as long as the option is there its all good . Setting up raid is for the most part a no brainer. i guess from a tech support stand point they would rather not deal with it and why its not supported officially .

 

You can enable it via the nvidia control panel yes in DX10 but visually it will do nothing till you disable POM its part of the DX10 renderer and its either have POM on or Anisotropy not both . So unless something changed in the last few sets of drivers since i last played the game its still the same .

 

Thanks again, as long as the option for raid is there I am good to go...

 

i enabled it and lost 5 frames. i disabled it and gained 5 frames...so you tell me? i just assumed it was on and then it was off..lol. dx10 mode

 

Your correct that its wasting resources ie eating up your frames, but visually its doing nothing until you disable POM . i went through this months ago because i had it enabled via the control panel x16 but saw nothing visually change till i did some research and found it its one or the other

 

Ya your going to need an original OS disk . Does one not come with the machine ? if not is there a way to make one like a lot companys are doing now via software on the machine, as they dont want to ship the physical product$ they sometimes give you the option to make your own disk.

 

OEM Vista certainly works; did it after RAIDing my G50. The ASUS recovery disk would not run, I assumed at the time it was simply a bad disk but if it was trying to create a Recovery Partition on the RAID array that may indeed be why it kept failing.

Anyone know for sure?

 

The recovery disk may simply not work because the Raid drivers are not on the disk it self .

 

That would make sense as well; thanks!

 

they said it was warhead for the pom. and that crysis works from the nv cp.

and just where do you set this pom at?

 

Here is what i would do if i wanted raid but also wanted to make sure i had the factory image ,say if i was going to hand it off to someone down the road
ie Sell it .

Grab Acronis or that software you recommend in that video you have on page one and ghost the main drive and then move it(the ghost image) to an external source . Take an OEM vista which i have like 5 laying around here get the program VLite inject the raid drivers into it and theres tutorials around the web which explain how to do this . Install vista at which point its going to ask you to activate it, so flip over the machine and type in the number on the bottom , if it does not accept it, call microsoft with that oem number on the bottom and they will give you a new one that should work. When everything is up and running and stable id ghost it again just so you wont have to go through the 20 step process all over again incase something gos bad.

All done .

 

Make a system.cfg file and add these lines to it

r_UsePOM 0
r_TexMaxAnisotropy 16
R_multigpu=1

The multigpu thing is there to make sure its forcing SLI

Here is a small blurb about the whole POM thing

the system.cfg file needs to be in the main crysis directory, forgot to add that

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/archive/index.php/t-119604.html

there is more around the web but that bottom post bascially gives the jest of it.

 

Not as far as I know. If the Recovery disk tries to install the Recovery Partition first thing before doing the Vista install it's going to fail unless there is some option to switch off the install of the Recovery Partition.

The good news is you can borrow a regular Vista disk and use the license key on the bottom of your W90, you don't have to actually go out and buy a copy of Vista. But as far as I know you are going to lose the Recovery Partition on your local RAID drives.

 

Im sure you could find someone to lend you a Vista64 disc ? after all you have a license for it so its not like your doing anything unlawful

As for the raid thing, if i get this machine i wont be installing raid, so for me it wont be an issue. raid sometimes brings new headaches like stuttering in games etc and for the shortened load times of games i can deal with vs the headaches it can occasionally bring .

 

It also depends on the method of AA being used. The method most games use is Multi-Sampling, but nVidia and ATi have introduced their own methods of AA, such as CS, Quality CS, Edge Detect AA, etc. which can be forced in certain games via driver control. Some games do use nVidia's way or ATi's way of Anti-Aliasing as in-game options as well.

 

If your referring to what were (john and myself)talking about is Anisotropy AF not AA Antialiasing .

 

he can download any 64bit windows as long as he has the correct key for it.
burn it to a disc and get to installing..

read that one about 20 minutes ago, but was reading all these others about it. i never really paid it any mind... when im running around i don't have time to be scrutinizing how green the plant looks...lol. but it's all interesting to say the least...gonna do a few things and see what happens.

 

Lol at the green plant . Aniostropy gives much better LOD(level of detail) further out from where your character is standing . so say with it OFF anything further then 6 feet from your character is blurry ie the ground and with it ON you can see the ground say 30 feet before it blurs i have been spoiled by its effect over the years

In crysis without it on looking at the ground is a blurry mess very close in DX10, but run DX9 or disable POM and crank up the AF and it looks much better IMHO.

And for the record john im sure you knew what AF did, i was just giving a basic description to others of the effect it has in game and why they should use it .

 

Me personally i would not bother but others would tell you something different
. i have run them both in the past and yes load times(games) and programs can load faster but for me personally i would not bother .

 

nope, was never sure about what it did. you educated me. i mean i had a partial clue, but never really in depth knowledge. now the lod...i know what that does.

and of course all the added extra AA info from ichime
makes me a better well rounded individual..

 

It has arrived!!!!

WoW! , she's a big heavy bunch of beauty

 

So now you change your Sig to "1st Officially Known RMA'd Unboxed twice W90vp-X1 Owner"

And congrats on your new machine jamiee

 

Regarding FSB, this is an X38 board so I expect it to be able to hit higher FSB than a lot of other systems might.

 

So which batch did the W90Vp's start coming with no issue's? Second batch? Third Batch...
I originally ordered on the second batch I believe...but it may not matter...I'll know when I get back from work on monday and figure my MIA laptop out.

 

Working on it

 

We have been recently updated the channel (W90VP-A1) version is expected in on the 24th @ ASUS. It is supposed to have the new bios that was recently updated.

 

Here's my machine's Info:

BIOS = 0502
Build Date = 02/25/09

EC Firmware = WNB_0504

 

No problem. Thank you, I would appreciate the addition into your thread. Thanks for the offer, I appreciate it.

 

Yes I am not worried about the chipset, I am worried about the RAM and the PCI buss.

In bios overclocking like you do on a desktop you can lower the ram:fsb multi and lock the pci buss so the only limit your worried about is the chipset and the cpu...

in software overclocking the ram & pci buss are going to go up also, most ram overclocks well so thats not a big deal unless your unlucky but the pci-buss is not meant to be overclocked and very often it causes instability or crashes once you start to do so.

Maybe they have got past the pci buss overclock with new PLL's in the software as I do not see how that guy got the FSB that high otherwise, normally you crash after less than half that.

 

Lol that pic is great ViciousXUSMC

 

Same as mine..

 

Ha... you lucky SOD !

 

Lol. I made the mistake of running the battery calibration utility while I was in the BIOS..... needless to say it's going through this whole routine of charging the battery.... *UGH*

Might be here a while before I can actually start to use this thing

 

Ha that sucks, it should not hurt it to turn it off and stop the calibration but I understand if you do not want to take the chance.

 

I have not packed mine up yet for RMA so before I do how do I check the BIOS and other info that folks are interested in.

 

F2 is probably the bios key press it when you boot the machine.

If your in windows Everest is a great program to give all the detailed info on the machine as a whole that will include things like video drives, chipset, bios ect.

 

Yes, I've already wiped a few dribbles off the keyboard

Time for some dinner me thinks..

 

Wow that was fast and congrats on your new machine

 

Xotic is smoothe like that.

Did the new owner ever get a chance to run some new benches, and check for stability? Hmm?

 

Asus actually. Pretty impressive work there actually.

Justin's units aren't out yet.

I wonder if all they (Asus) did was update the Bios.

 

Man, this is kinda getting me down. I bought my laptop on the 23 of Feb and I still havnt been able to play any games on it no matter what the settings are. Ive tried everything to no avail. I wonder if Im going to have to do the same thing Striker did and see if I can exchange my old and busted for some new hawtness.

 

That would have been some weak sauce if all they did was update the bios, but then it could have been a mixture of both bios and software and maybe they wanted to do some more testing etc. In all though 5 days compared to other companys (wont mention who) that keep your machine for a month or 2 and when you finally get it back its still screwed up, i would have to say thats a mighty impressive turn around and just one more reason to go with ASUS.