K42ja Owner's Louge

@asusk42ja the increased temps in linux are probably due to GPU power management settings. If you're using the default radeon driver:
X.Org Wiki - radeonBuildHowTo

If you use the proprietary ATI fglrx driver, you'll need to configure those power settings in the ATI fglrx-control app (like catalyst control center in windows).

 

@ALLurGroceries...I don't hav ny increased temp issue on my linux installation cos i don't use the GUI at all...i do my work from command line...so i don't think i'll need any graphics drivers or sound or anything at all as a matter of fact, but i've worked on other systems (which means not just asus with radeon) that had heating issues and most of da time it'll be due to some silly stupid unwanted service(s) burning up the battery and processor...I suggested the tool as a common solution for all n not for just 'radeon' lappys....

But heyy THANKS for the site link, seems to be very informative..will be very useful for me in the future...Peace...

 

@asusk42ja actually your system will run at max gpu clock speed unless you tweak the clock setting, regardless of whether the GPU is in use or not. Good luck. X.Org Wiki - radeonBuildHowTo

 

Umm...OK buddy... I haven't tried those methods cos i've never felt like there's any need... outta curiosity lemme ask you what bout systems that doesn't have this so called 'Radeon' or has an inbuilt GPU like the Intel HM55 for instance and face heating issues...??

 

@asusk42ja

ATI GPUs will stay on their maximum clock setting by default, so that's why you have to clock it down manually, in windows this is done automatically by the driver. Also if you install the fglrx driver it normally clocks down the card.

For system with integrated graphics, the same does not apply, a heat issue would be unrelated to the graphics processor, and might be due to ACPI problems with fan speeds or something else, like high CPU usage. It could also be from not having the cpu frequency scaling modules loaded or using the high performance governor instead of ondemand or powersave.

 

hey guys i m getting 20-25 fps in splinter cell conviction in ultra settings......is it good??????.....for this game i think it is not much demanding game..
can i tweak it some how?
am i right???

one more question i play this game in battery it drops to9-10fps...is it happens to every one???

please tell any suggeastion to improve fps if it happens??

 

Budies.....i got another benchmark....it is of bfbc2 ..and igot 28-30fps in max settings...pretty satisfieng isnt it?

 

That's exactly what I told before...It needn't necessary be always graphics driver issue...Cos I'm NOT facing any heating issues with mine whereas someone else here is having issues and we all use the same drivers...So it has to be the background processes using more resources...

 

hey guys, please post what drivers are you using for your system. I am getting totally random bsods on my k42ja.

 

we r using drivers which came with laptop............from driver cd......it will install all the drivers automatically .........tick the one u need and untick which u dont need.............simple and good driver utility by asus....

 

can you please post your vga driver version. I somehow managed to damage my driver CD.

 

just download drivers from asus website i m giving u link........
ASUSTeK Computer Inc.-Support-

okk.......just enjoy.....

 

Bought my new asus K42ja-vx032d on Sunday for 43.5k

 

hii any one installed xp ?
in asus k42ja?
please tell me yes or no

 

hi guys i got a problem i got a k42ja with i7-740qm and i think it overheats


prime95 after 25min peaks at 86
and battlefirld BC2 playes well but gets up to 90c in like 5 mins

the laptop new and i got the latest bios 212

would glad get rplyies and maybe comparison to your findings if any thanks.

sorry for bad spelling not english is not my main leanguege

i got the above laptop like a month ago so its new
i got I7-740qm cpu

so the problem is that in prime95 it gets 86c peak after 20 mins
and in battlefirld BC2 gets somthing like 85-90c in just 5 mins
i asume its hot and not right.

i idle at around 48-56C
i monitord with difrent programs like-realtemp,coretemp,cpuid prety much the same resoults.
if anyone alse got this cpu or even beter same notebook please
post your resoults if you got any.

K42ja welcome post aswell beacouse prety same notebook besides the cpu

sorry for speling hope get reply soon
thenks in advance.

 

Have you tried installing any Linux in it? I tried installing debian 6.0.1 and ubuntu 10.10 but I can't seem to make the wifi work. What drivers did you used?

Thanks..

 

What wireless card do you have netxph?

Is it broadcom or atheros?

 

Intel Wireless 1000 bgn, i used iwlwifi drivers from Intel® Wireless WiFi Link drivers for Linux*.

i copied the iwlwifi 1000 ucode in /lib/firmware and restarted the pc. I was able to see the wireless networks available, but i can't connect, authentication window keeps on popping and i'm sure that i have the correct password.

i wonder if you encountered the same thing.

 

@netxph are you on ubuntu or debian now? It sounds like you have the driver and firmware set up fine, but you have some sort of authentication/permissions problem going on.

 

do you have the same wireless cards? i have it all working perfectly in windows 7. but in linux, the authentication window keeps popping up.

i just bought this laptop, and i don't know if i have to return it. i'm looking for anyone who solved this already, or having the same problem. if this is isolated only to my case, guess, i have reasons to return it.

 

@netxph I've had that 1000 adapter, and I used it with Debian. I don't have the same machine, but if you can tell me which distro you are using (debian or ubuntu?) I can try to look for a solution.

 

I am using debian 6.0.1... i'll try to isolate if it's my router that's causing my wifi problem.

Thanks a lot

 

Is the authentication dialog that comes up repeatedly the one for your network key, or your keyring/root password? Also what kind of encryption are you using on your access point/router?

If you open a terminal window and run tail -f /var/log/syslog while trying to associate, you will probably get some info from network manager that may lead you in the right direction.

 

yes, it's for the network key.

Here's the daemon.log, i'll try to get the syslog later. I have a hunch that if this is only happening on my case, maybe, this has something to do with the router.

daemon.log's tail - using firmware-iwlwifi in debian's non-free repository

Apr 4 18:43:07 sophia NetworkManager[1849]: <info> (wlan0): supplicant connection state: associating -> disconnected
Apr 4 18:43:07 sophia NetworkManager[1849]: <info> (wlan0): supplicant connection state: disconnected -> scanning
Apr 4 18:43:08 sophia wpa_supplicant[1879]: Trying to associate with 00:24:01:1a:48:35 (SSID='Funshine' freq=2437 MHz)
Apr 4 18:43:08 sophia NetworkManager[1849]: <info> (wlan0): supplicant connection state: scanning -> associating
Apr 4 18:43:17 sophia NetworkManager[1849]: <warn> Activation (wlan0/wireless): association took too long.
Apr 4 18:43:17 sophia NetworkManager[1849]: <info> (wlan0): device state change: 5 -> 6 (reason 0)
Apr 4 18:43:17 sophia NetworkManager[1849]: <warn> Activation (wlan0/wireless): asking for new secrets
Apr 4 18:43:17 sophia NetworkManager[1849]: <info> (wlan0): supplicant connection state: associating -> disconnected
Apr 4 18:43:18 sophia wpa_supplicant[1879]: Authentication with 00:00:00:00:00:00 timed out.

 

That's just as good basically, except you won't have output from daemon.log from the iwlagn module. So syslog may have more clues.

There's a bug report here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487687

Someone there suggests trying:

Code:

modprobe -r iwlagn
modprobe iwlagn disable_hw_scan=1

 

that's next on my list

wait, so asus k42ja, can have different wireless card? i don't know if i can ask asus support here to change my card.

T_T this is really a deal breaker for me, i want to use debian more than windows 7.

 

If you want a different card, you may be able to change it out by taking off the bottom panel. It shouldn't void your warranty as long as it's just the cover that has to come off. The card is only held in with 2 screws.

You can try a different kernel if the module parameter for iwlagn doesn't work. For example the one from Debian unstable.

 

Thanks... really really appreciate your patience and help on this...

Worst case scenario...

Which wireless network card would be best compatible with linux? Will they fit in my laptop?

Thanks.

 

I have had the best experience with atheros, but it's a tradeoff because their windows drivers are horrid. I don't run windows so that's not a factor for me, but it could be a major issue if you plan on dual booting.

I'm not sure if you have a half-height or full-height slot, I think the 1000 is a half-height card so let's say that. There are half-height atheros cards, but they don't do 5GHz. There are some forthcoming ones apparently, but I haven't seen them for sale yet.

Really though, you should be ok with a new kernel in the worst case. I think you're hitting an iwlagn driver bug (or it could be a firmware bug, I'm not really sure).

 

thanks...

all my excitement with this laptop went down, when i learned this...

i'll add that option to my list... when I run out, i need to go find wireless cards.

i'll update you guys later.

 

I have installed Ubuntu 10.10 on my Asus K42ja but there is no sound, all the settings and base drivers look fine its just that there is no sound.

Can anyone help me on this issue??

Thanks

 

@lostindestiny I don't own this model, but I can help. What's the output of aplay -l and lspci | grep audio?

 

Below are the infos you asked for

aplay -l

Code:

**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC259 Analog [ALC259 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: ATI HDMI [ATI HDMI]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

lspci | grep audio

Code:

Nothing

lspci

Code:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor DRAM Controller (rev 18)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor PCI Express x16 Root Port (rev 18)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset HECI Controller (rev 06)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 06)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 06)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev 06)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev 06)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 4 (rev 06)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 5 (rev 06)
00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 6 (rev 06)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 06)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev a6)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 5 Series Chipset LPC Interface Controller (rev 06)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 4 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 06)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset SMBus Controller (rev 06)
00:1f.6 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Thermal Subsystem (rev 06)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Madison [Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series]
01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Redwood HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5600 Series]
03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
07:00.0 System peripheral: JMicron Technology Corp. SD/MMC Host Controller (rev 80)
07:00.2 SD Host controller: JMicron Technology Corp. Standard SD Host Controller (rev 80)
07:00.5 Ethernet controller: JMicron Technology Corp. JMC250 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 03)
3f:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture Generic Non-core Registers (rev 05)
3f:00.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture System Address Decoder (rev 05)
3f:02.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Link 0 (rev 05)
3f:02.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Physical 0 (rev 05)
3f:02.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Reserved (rev 05)
3f:02.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Reserved (rev 05)

Below are a couple of screen shots that might help you find out the problem






I tried reinstalling Ubuntu 10.10 three times but everytime audio works only the first time after install and stopped working when rebooted.

All the information given above were unchanged when audio was working and when was not working, I am now getting frustrated because of this issue as is nothing has changed in the configuration from when it was working.

The microphone works fine all the time ( I can tell this because that indicator in the input tab of sound preferences fluctuates when i use microphone)

Please help me, I would really appreciate it.

PS. My laptop has only one jack both for audio input and audio output.

Thanks, waiting for reply

 

Sorry I omitted the -i in lspci | grep -i audio. No problem though since you posted the full lspci.

Does your sound work from a cold boot, or is it just totally dead after you boot Ubuntu for the first time?

Do you get sound through headphones/line out? In your mixer, do you have a control for Speaker or Front? Are they all the way up?

You can try adding this to the end of the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf file (as root):

Code:

options snd-hda-intel model=auto position_fix=0

Save that file and then do a sudo alsa force-reload and see if it makes any difference. If not you can delete the line above.

Also look at that file and make sure there isn't another entry for snd-hda-intel.

I'm looking through bug reports and whatnot, if I find something good I'll add it to this post.

 

Thanks for replying

Sound only worked when i first start my laptop just after ubuntu 10.10 setup, after a reboot it just stopped working.

No there is no sound in headphones/line out, there is no sound control only ubuntu's Sound preference in which nothing is changed from when the sound was working.

I tried what you asked and its still not working

there is no entry for snd-hda-intel in that file

below is the full content of that file if it helps

alsa-base.conf - 4dd7b

Thanks

 

OK now I'm finding some stuff...

This thread suggests the same config line as I pasted above except without position_fix: [ubuntu] ALC259 RealTek card - No Sound - Alternative? - Ubuntu Forums

This one suggests using the bleeding-edge ubuntu alsa package from a PPA: Ubuntu Forums - View Single Post - Sound problems with 10.4 netbook remix and ASUS 1001pxd (Realtek ALC259)

I am not sure you have to go so far as to purge all of the alsa packages first, though.

If none of that works, I'll start looking deeper, it's hard to debug audio problems over the internet so I'm going for the easiest first.

 

The first solution didn't work

I removed alsa from package manager but i cannot install it again as said in the second thread, Package manager is also not showing any entry for alsa to reinstall, now there is no sound device showing in Sound preferences.

I think i should use Fedora, Ubuntu is pure crap, its so frustrating when basic things don't work

When trying to update, its saying no internet connection, now its getting even more frustrating

Thanks

 

After you add that PPA you will need to update your sources list (sudo apt-get update). You should probably be doing this stuff from the command line since the GUI package manager may have ripped out something that you needed (that's why I said I'm not sure you need to purge the packages, you can usually just install one from PPA over the existing one). If you look at the log you can tell what it removed and then install those packages from the CD, worst case, if your network won't work.

I've also seen fedora threads with the same issue, I'm not sure that would solve your problem, but I'm not going to find myself in the position of defending Ubuntu.

 

Thanks for your time friend, I think I should stick to windows 7 for the time being.

Every time i decide to move to linux, something like this happens

Will let you know if ever i could ever fix this problem

Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it

 

hello guys......my gpu is getting hot when playing games like ac2, nfs hp....it goes arround 82 c..

is there is any solution.

 

Can you do a quick review of this laptop?? i am interested in buying this one, its core 13 model is available for Rs 37000 at nehru place. How sturdy is the laptop? What about overall buid quality, its keyboard? Does it have a express card slot?? Can you post some pictures of the laptop?
Im confused between this laptop and acer timeline 4820tg, both are in same price range, which one will be better?

 

hii ratesh to decrease the gpu temperatures buy the cooling pad from the cooler master

 

my processor and my graphic card were heating very badly.....and after some time games stops working in middle....than i visited asus care they said fan is needed to be changed ......is this is right or there can be another reasons...??

 

you ever try to open bottom case?maybe the dust preclude your laptop airflow