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    *** Asus ROG Mothership Owners Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'ASUS Reviews and Owners' Lounges' started by SteveEricJordan, May 20, 2019.

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    I still haven't seen the Asus ROG 'Mothership' GZ700GX for sale, but it's supposed to release in 2H19:
    https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/ROG-Mothership-GZ700/

    ROG:REDEFINE 2019 | Asus ROG 'Mothership' GZ700GX now available with factory-overclocked Intel Core i9-9980HK and OC NVIDIA RTX 2080 graphics
    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-...and-OC-NVIDIA-RTX-2080-graphics.418740.0.html

    And, LTT just released this behind the scenes of the ROG design studio where the Mothership was born:

    How a Gaming Laptop Gets Made - ROG Design Center Tour
    Linus Tech Tips
    Published on Aug 31, 2019
    Thanks to ROG for sponsoring this video!
    Enter our ROG giveaway at https://lmg.gg/8KV5J for a chance to win one of their ASUS STRIX SCAR III Gaming Laptops. 2 days left as of this post...
     
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    Need to get my hands on one of these...
     
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    IDK how, in the LTT video he said they are only making 650 units...
     
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    Just got it yesterday , So far so good I guess? did few benchmarks on it with stock turbo mode (refer pic) problem is I cant seem to find the sweet spot for undervolting the CPU .. tried from 0-130mv with cache limit at 50. anyone have any idea ? the i9 9980hk with both performance and turbo mode cant undervolt or im doing it wrong ? should I increase the voltage ?

    https://imgur.com/wEDJUlr
    https://imgur.com/KJTQUdz
     
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    tl;dr -> So that's probably it, the stock OC out of the box is so high there is no margin for undervolt, and going higher might need additional +voltage or +undervolt/overvolt setting "voltage offset" using the same tool.

    I haven't used ROG Laptop OC tuning tools for a while, one of the reasons I'm thinking of getting a G703GX-XB96K instead of an MSI this time, but as I recall there are performance modes + Windows Power Plan that can interfere with tuning.

    You might make sure you are in the top Windows power plan and CPU Performance is set to 100%/100% in Advanced settings for High Performance (Asus might have renamed it), as 0%/100% will reduce the frequency except at 100% load. 0%/99% will disable Turbo FYI.

    Otherwise the standard OC - Turbo - might be the problem, as you OC up from stock you reduce the voltage headroom for undervolting. At stock you may get -125mV, but at top OC on Asus I needed +10mV to +15mV and more - this is a while ago now, and each CPU model acts diffferently some will OC *and* allow some undervolt even up to 5.0ghz, YMMV.

    So IDK if the Asus tools have a "stock" setting under Turbo, I'd work on the undervolt there first, and get the baseline of what is possible and then if it's user accessible set the OC one multiplier at a time for all cores and re-test the undervolt again, etc, until you are at full OC all core.

    If the Asus tools won't do manual settings like that, they are all pre-baked OC's, then what I did was uninstall that Asus OC tool and install Intel XTU for CPU OC and at the time Asus had a separate GPU OC tool and I kept that for a long time, but eventually uninstalled that and since then I've used MSI Afterburner + RTSS for FPS limiting.

    So that's probably it, the stock OC out of the box is so high there is no margin for undervolt. :)
     
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    That's probably it. No room for UV .. Thanks hmscott :) , I tried everything. will wait for others to post their experience then >,<

    On another note, if you are curious with the temps.. its awesome! im playing with no air cond (sensitive nose) and I'm in Asia - Malaysia to be precise where its hot ! ambiance temp around 25-28c

    So here are the temps with performance mode (where cpu usually dont go above 4.2Ghz , where else turbo go as high as 5Ghz)
    Monster Hunter : 77~85c (few hrs of gameplay)
    Warhammer - Chaosbane : 75~81c (30 mins++)
    Anthem : 80~91c (4 hours of gameplay with very rare temp spike to 91 which only for a few secs and goes down lingering around 84~87c)
    Battlefield : 78~88c (an hr or so)

    problem so far with the mothership :
    audio jack very sensitive when using with high end iems , you will hear abit of wheezing sound)
    keyboard not charging properly when using the cable (maybe its not suppose so charge ? have to mount and charge ?)

    thats all ! and oh bought the ebags slim pro .. cant fit .. any recommendation ? any benchmark request or anything like ram/ssd model just let me know.
     
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    I've been using one of these for 2 days now and I also don't have any undervolting headroom at out of the box frequencies. Mine is clocked at 4.8 all core and it consumes 160+ watts until hitting PL1. Even -50mv undervolt would BSOD.

    However, I lowered the 8 core clock speed to 4.5ghz on all cores and I can now sustain a -75mv undervolt. I might go even lower since the cooling can stay extremely quiet up to about 80 watts and that should be good for about 4.0ghz * 8cores.
     
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    You could try -10mV - -45mV range at top OC, every little bit helps. :)

    Keeping the daily driver speeds down is what I typically do too, it's only for testing / benchmarking that I push the limits to the maximum.
     
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    Hi there, about to press the button on one of those bad boys.. but in my region i can only get the 1080p panel, not the 4k one. The issue is that besides gaming i wanted to do video editing and Unity programming, both enjoy higher dpis... not to mention the 4k panel is 100% adobe rgb vs the 100 srgb of the 1080p panel...

    As owners, what do you guys think of this dilemna? Will the machine have enough resell value for me to switch to a 4k panel when i head back in europe? Thanks!
     
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    You have already one with 1080p display or you want to buy a used one?
    To my mind...6000 $ is something crazy...no additional value.
    If you want to sell 1080p, you will lose a lot of money.
     
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    Thanks @orgasmic - i don't have one yet, i'm planning to buy one, resell it in europe or the UAE and buy another one that's 4k. But after reading your message regarding resell value I've changed my mind and might just wait to buy a 4k one in europe, thank you!
     
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    hey all
    i got mine a few days ago and i have a strange problem, since the beginning. it's like around two years ago, when win 10 had the problem with optimus and the nvidia gpu kept waking up every few seconds, leading to some kind of micro-freezing (but no in all apps) etc.
    i have this problem only in optimus mode. if i switch to dedicated gpu mode the gpu operates normally.
    also, if i use i.e. afterburner and set a fixed gpu clock, it just stays where i set it to. but, the system is not that stable in optimus mode, like it runs time spy without amy problems UNTIL tve run is over and the app leaves fullscreen and goes back to the desktop to show the result. then it sometimes freezes / crashes / laggs like heck.
    if i'm in dedicated gpu mode, absolutely flawless.
    i'ce already un / reainstalled both nvidia / intel drivers. i've testet different profiles within armoury crate (turbo, performance etc.), i've even reset the device to factory settings and then installed afterburner to check. it's always the same. also, in gpu-z i can see the behaviour.
    as the both gpus function normally (i also checked in optimus mode what happens when i deactived either of the two gpu..both run without problems) i don't think it's hardware failure, but i'm pretty clueless as of what else to try in the mean time ^^

    does anyone have an idea?

    i'd probably be better off posting this in an other , non-device-specific thread, since i guess not too many own a mothership and therefore probably not a lot of peepz will read this ;-)

    here's a video of how tve prob looks like in afterburner:



    cheers


    Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk
     
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    @_deadbydawn_ i don't own a mothership but AFAIK this is a regular optimus issues - cue reddit 'The issue is more with Nvidia Optimus. Because it switches between the iGPU and the dGPU to save power, it ends up bugging out and doing that during games. Gsync fixes this by making the iGPU more or less disabled and the dGPU being the only thing outputting video.'
     
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    This may be a case where your monitoring tool is polling the GPU for an update which causes it to wake up and cause a stutter.

    For what its worth, this happens with eGPUs as well. Afterburner has usually caused it for me, but if you start HWINFO in sensor only mode when the dGPU is off, it should not cause it to wake up.
     
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    thanks for the input guys :)
    sorry for the late reply, i've been away for a few days.
    yah, that's exactly what happens, i found out as well in the mean time. asus gpu tweak ii does it as well, so does gpu-z with its sensor view. the problem why i want to use afterburner is because i want to undervolt the gpu and didn't find another solution yet.
     
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