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    Asus N80Vn-GP011C: First Impressions/Review

    Discussion in 'ASUS Reviews and Owners' Lounges' started by zmatin, Nov 12, 2008.

  1. David

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    Yes, the X83Vm-X1 has a LED panel. :)
     
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    Yes, according to BB it is an LED display.
     
  3. Naris

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    Dell has accidental damage and 2 year warranty upgrade for ~$280, HP ~$180. I am almost positive I've read in the other review for the X83Vm has an LED panel.

    If you don't intend to ever game or anything I suppose ~$100 savings may be worth it.
     
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    Where did you come to this conclusion from
     
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    I would like to know too :rolleyes:
     
  6. DFA1

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    Anyone know a good car power inverter that will run this lappy? Just got a 175watt power inverter from Best Buy, it'll charge the battery while the lappy is turned off, but when its turned on the inverter shuts off. is it the cigarette light socket or the inverter?

    what exactly do I need to be looking for when buying car power inverters? I'd like to play games in my car as well :)
     
  7. zmatin

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    Not sure of the specifics, but make sure that the original power adapter specs are within the range of power capacity for the car inverter power supply. Other than that, not sure what to tell you.
     
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    Hello, all I'm thinking of reformatting the hard drive and installing ubuntu on it. Has anyone tried doing this yet and if so how does it work as far as drivers are concerned? I really liked the dedicated buttons on the N80vn for bluetooth and wifi that allowed me to turn them on and off. I'm wondering how well these would work on ubuntu without expressgate installed.

    Another question I have is about backing up the recovery partition to an external hard drive. Has anyone tried to do this yet? I've read that it can be tricky to get Asus recovery partitions it to work right with a backup.

    Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
     
  9. MrBojangels

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    I would guess there are drivers for linux for one reason, the built in express gate operating system is just an uber light version of linux that boots in 7 seconds with the press of a button with web browser, instant messenger, and other commonly used apps.

    I actually deleted the recovery partition, when I went to install vista 64bit after it finished and tried to boot to desktop i got a message saying ERROR in huge red letters taking up most the screen, apparently the recovery partition conflicted with a different version of Vista.
     
  10. DFA1

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    Okay I have tried two different power inverters from Best Buy, a 175 watt, and a 200 watt. The 175 would charge the battery while it's off and die when I turned it on, the 200 watt wouldn't do anything.

    What numbers am I looking for? amps, watts, volts? am I going to have to spend $150 to get a power adapter?
     
  11. Weenie

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    This laptop dissipates a maximum of 90W on battery, so you shouldn't need an inverter supplying any more power than that. My 100W power inverter works just fine. Maybe your cigarette lighter is having issues. Have you tried your inverters in another car?
     
  12. SMSabir

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    NEED HELP :)

    Guys I am writing from a small country called Pakistan and after spending nearly 5 years with my Acer TM laptop I need to upgrade myself with something good and some how this laptop has become my key choice.

    A friend of mine is coming from US after 2 days and he is willing to get a laptop for me from any store like Bestbuy (initially asked for Asus X83Vm-X1) though this laptop is far stronger and decent looking.

    Questions:

    1. Got a tight budget of 900$ (ok can add 50$ if desperatly needed) so is this laptop available on such price from any good high street store chain?

    I know bestbuy dont have this laptop.

    2. Read about the $200 discount from Exacaliberpc - final price down to $950, how it is done and how I can do that for me?

    Though my friend is leaving of this month's 6th or 7th evening so some how high street option is suitable if not expensive.

    Guys help me in this please, help a brother also enjoy seductive digital love affair with this laptop :)

    SMSabir
     
  13. Weenie

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    The $200 discount promotion is over so it's back to full price. If you want to save some money, you can go with the lesser model (N80VN-A1) currently going for ~$965+S/H on ebay. Shipping internationally is expensive though.
     
  14. MrBojangels

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    Thats wrong, you cant judge power requirements in terms of the battery because nothing is 100% efficient in stepping down 120V AC current to whatever the laptop uses. The power supply used to charge the battery is rated at 1.5Amps at 100-240V, so in theory its power requirements could be anywhere from 150watts to 360watts. I would assume 180w at 120v would be a safe guess, but then you have to trust that power inverters put out their rated wattage which is rarely true when talking about any random brand power supply so you probably should have a 200w just to be safe.
     
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    Has anyone been able to get Linux (Ubuntu 8.10 or Fedora 10) to run on this machine? I had the X83Vm-X1 and it had all sorts of issues.
     
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    Very tempting :-/ I hate rebates though
     
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    The X83Vm-X1 at Best Buy was $794 in store two days ago, but due to issues with Linux I returned the unit... for Windows users it is a 'steal'.
     
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    Yeah I did see on the 175watt inverter it said something like 1.4a, and the adapter for the laptop said 1.5a.

    Also this is a big question, would the laptop not need almost double the power if it's gotta charge the battery and run they laptop at the same time? The Best Buy guy (who unfortionately had no idea) threw that idea out there, perhaps taking the battery out and then trying the inverter, because having to charge the batter and run the laptop would use a lot more power. I've read somewhere that people couldn't get some car inverters to work with their laptops unless the batter was already fully charged ;(
     
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    When it comes to powering something as expensive as a notebook I'd spare no expense with something as important as a power supply.
     
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    Your car's power line may not be able to support the wattage required.

    This is a 375watt with decent review for a good price
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812120304

    edit: http://www.crutchfield.com/S-7tlduL8i925/learn/learningcenter/car/inverter.html
    says that drawing 150watts or more usually requires a direct connection to your cars battery.

    edit again:I found the problem, you're buying inverters rated at PEAK power output, something with only 90w continuous power could NEVER power a laptop whether or not it is rated at 150w peak.

    http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=9224432 rated at 200 watts of continuous power with 400w peak, has even better reviews and its really cheap.
     
  24. DFA1

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    Hahahah! I was just now looking at the same Wal-Mart power inverter. Yeah I read on the back of my previous inverters about the continuous power, but they said 120w, which the Asus says it's a 90w Laptop... I'm thinking it might have something to do with the amps. The back of the AC Adapter that came with the laptop says "Output 19V (wierd line symbol) 4.74A" so do I need a an inverter that pushes 4.74a? I have only seen them with 1.5a. ugh, this is stressing me out.

    That Wal-Mart one is SUPER cheap, but guess it couldn't hurt to give it a try.

    As for the newegg inverter you linked, I read a review that it would run a PS3, but only if connected directly to the battery ;( I need something for cigarette lighter ports. I'm gonna go pick up that Wal-Mart inverter now and give it a try in my personal car in the parking lot. If it works I will take it to work tomorrow and try it on one of my work cars. Thing about my work cars are they they are already jam packed with other electronics, radio, lights, and an 12 or 13" HP Laptop.
     
  25. MrBojangels

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    You're looking at the wrong numbers

    [email protected] is the laptop charger's power OUTPUT
    19x4.74=90.06watts

    The charger's INPUT power is [email protected]
    100x1.5=150watts
    240x1.5=360watts

    I'm going to assume that we should use the normal household voltage of about 120V to find the power requirements
    120x1.5=180watts

    Since the power brick outputs 90watts and takes as much as possibly 180w its efficiency is probably only around 50% in converting 120v AC to 19V DC. A PS3 sucks around 204watts during gameplay.
     
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    Are the graphics user upgradeable, or is it an Asus proprietary port?
     
  27. Lucky3killer

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    I'm considering to get ASUS N80Vn-GP011C in next month but I was concern about ASUS boot up issue.

    In last year ago, I bought ASUS G1 and did clean install of Vista via recovery CD but won't able to boot up in desktop and just all black screen, I tried to repeat so several time then returned to newegg for replacement but ended up to got refund due backorder at this time.

    I made biggest mistake about return to newegg because I was forgot to format the HDD before do clean install of Vista but ASUS recovery CD don't have format option included.

    I wish that ASUS will include retail version of Vista, just in case if OS is fail and it does include format option.
     
  28. Lucky3killer

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    Oh really, does Vista 64 bit is boot up on your laptop so successfully?

    I want make sure because I have Vista 64 bit DVD.

    Does ASUS laptop has license key, just need for Vista 64 bit to install?

    How can you delete the recovery partition? format the HDD?
     
  29. Mide

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    I got Vista 64 to run on this laptop fine.
     
  30. SMSabir

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    Just a quick question.

    If I get this laptop from US and use it in Canada (very soon I will be moving to Canada) "SO" will the Asus's 2 year international warranty + 1 year accidental warranty will be valid in Canada?
     
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    Like *all* notebooks it's not user upgradeable. The only sort-of exception are systems that were originally offered with more than one GPU, and the GPU wasn't sodered to the motherboard. Even still, that's near useless.
     
  32. MrBojangels

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    Yes 64bit booted fine after I deleted/combined the recovery partition.
     
  33. DFA1

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    Went to Wal-Mart tonight to find that power inverter, they didn't have the one listed on their site, but a found another 200watt continuous power inverter for about $15 more. It worked fine in my personal car, now just gotta try it in my work car tomorrow.

    I'm starting to think that maybe my work cars have just too many things to power at the same time to run my laptop as well ;( If thats the case I might go back to Best Buy and get the http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...erter&lp=7&type=product&cp=1&id=1218011736471 175w Pocket Inverter, it's nice and small and will try it in my personal car. It says it only runs 120w continuous though. Maybe I do need 200 continuous to run my lappy, we'll find out tomorrow at work and I'll get back to everyone!
     
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    deleted by option via Vista installation DVD? Just like format option?

    Thanks for answer my question.
     
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    I found out about ASUS offers global warranty then would work so fine in Canada.
     
  36. MrBojangels

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    Yeah when installing Vista you have to delete the hidden recovery partition, its about 9gb in size whereas the other two are about 110gb each(for my X1)
     
  37. SMSabir

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    Thanks Lucky3killer, I appreciate your reply - now the second task is to find the good price for "Asus N80VN-GP011C" ($900 - $950) because the MS Live Cashback via excaliberpc or ebay isnt available any more and being honest the current price $1100 isnt in my reach.

    Thanks ok.

     
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    i'm in the same boat as you are. i've been watching newegg's price and today they actually raised the price to $1149 by decreasing the instant savings from $100 to $50. :(

     
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    Technically, the GPU is upgradable, as it is removable. It sits in a simple "pci-like" slot and slides right out. I had to pull it out myself when I upgraded the cpu. But since it's an Asus proprietary slot, it's up to them whether or not to offer future gpus that fit in that slot. However realistically speaking, it's very unlikely that will ever happen.
     
  40. zmatin

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    AFAIK only a couple of barebones or ODM notebooks are available with the MXM I/II slots that are guaranteed upgradable (e.g. Sager/Clevo).
     
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    And even then, they're not REALLY. There are no notebooks that really have upgradeable GPUs, beyond the exception I mentioned.
     
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    Oh, got it.

    Is all drivers from ASUS CD will work on 64 bit, including WiFi switch on? Just list of hardware has problem to run with 64 bit?
     
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    Does anyone know why the Data partition is a logical disk instead of a primary partition? I fail to see the advantage here.
     
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    Asus driver disc is great, it does have 64bit drivers and software for everything. All you do is check what you do and do not want installed and it handles everything automatically.

    Does anyone know how to remedy the looping sound crash in left 4 dead? I've tried mat_queue_mode 0 and disabling multi core rendering. I finally got my new mouse to use with this laptop and the only problem now is this annoyance.
     
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    Has anyone had any luck with finding out whether or not the N80 has a TPM module installed? I know previous notebooks of this size were advertised as having one, and the Amazon page says it has one as well. I've checked the Asus site and found drivers for the Infineon TPM, but when I try to run the drivers it says not recognized.

    Anyone else had this problem?
     
  46. zmatin

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    No hardware TPM that I'm aware of.
     
  47. Freakish123

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    I have an N50Vn and it does have TPM, you need to enable it in the Bios, I would of assumed it would be the same for the N80Vn.
     
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    I just got Left 4 Dead and it plays just fine without any issue, even at full quality video settings of 16xQ AA, 16x filtering, triple buffered vert sync. Framerates are 30-40 fps at these settings most of the time, dipping to 20fps on the more graphically intense areas. Lower vid settings gets the game running at a solid 60fps.
     
  49. MrBojangels

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    Yeah but how did it run when you still had the T5800, what drivers are you using? Everything high but shaders and effect details which are medium, 2xAA and 4xAF and it barley manages to keep above 30fps, when the horde comes it dips into the high 20s.
     
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    Hello all.

    I'm in a bit of a dilemna. I've been in the market for a brand new laptop and have decided between two models, the Asus N80vn-G ($1099 on excaliburpc) and the Asus G50vt-x6 ($1349 on Newegg). They're both similarly spec'd with the GPU being the biggest difference. I'm aware that there are bigger differences besides the GPU like the CPU (N80 = 8600 & G50 = 8700) but i'm sure i won't tell the difference in overall performance. The price difference however is roughly $300. Do you guys think there's enough of a difference between the two laptops that justify paying the extra money? I do intend on gaming on this laptop as I will be purchasing Call of duty World at War and Fallout 3. I'm also determining longevity. I feel as if the G50 will last me longer than the N80 because of it's GPU. What do you guys think? LOTS OF OPINIONS would definitely help. THANKS!
     
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