Asus N73JQ Owners' Lounge

I will receive my notebook in 2 weeks, i order with 2 x 500 HDD and one extra 250GB SSD OCz VERTEX 2, i want to replace one disk and install the SSD where i will transfer the OS, Ken Lee publish some photos how to remove the keyboard first top remove the 7 screews and open the bay where HDD and RAM are, but is not clear for me HOW ypou remove the keyboard, photo show some keys but looks like exist a clip or another plastic piece there?. Any help with better explanation will be welcom. i dont wahnt to brake nothing.

Alex

 

The keyboard itself has five little tabs that protrude along its top edge. They're very small, but you can easily see them, and they tuck under tiny tabs on the chassis edge just enough to hold the keyboard in place. Just use your finger to push against the chassis edge (rather than on the keyboard itself) where it meets each of these tabs. Start at one end and just go down the line, releasing them one by one. The tabs are so tiny that just that little bit of movement releases them.

After that, you have to disconnect the keyboard cable. It's a standard ZIF connector, so you just push the end tabs out to release its grip on the cable.

EDIT: I'm changing the WLAN card in my N73 later today. If you want, I can try to take more detailed photos of the keyboard and back panel removal process.

 

Anybody else getting an occasional static electricity tingle from their brushed-metal palm rest? I've been touching the screw on a lightswitch plate or a metal desk-lamp first to avoid it.

Cold, dry weather here!

 

Yikes! That doesn't good......

 

Hi BrodyBoy

would be great if you cand post some photos, i dont want to ruin nothing in my new N73JQ.

Regards

Helax

 

Post 18 in this thread has photos on how to remove keyboard and the location of the 7 screws under the keyboard. Posted by Ken Lee from GenTechPC.

 

Yes...And post #19 has a clear pic of the HDD bays, NIC, and "underneath" RAM! Just click on the thumbnail.

But if Brody wants to post a pic showing details of the HDD bays and connectors, that would be much appreciated.

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BTW, the Pinball game from XP is loads of fun on the N73. I put the laptop on a counter about waist high, and with the sound, it feels close to playing on a real pinball machine.

 

Thank you for this detailed reply I found that as long as the drive is bootable, if you hold down Esc key when booting, you can select the boot device from a menu.

 

Thanks for your tip!

 

hi people

N73Jq have new mark ?? I found ASUS PRO7BJQ (ASUS PRO7BJQ-TZ117V ) and configuration are identical or what is difference ??

sorry my bad english

 

Some of these have the Trusted Platform Module for BitLocker. Marketed towards corporate and government customers.

What does the Asus site for your country say?

 

*edit: Cary was faster

It's probably just local mark, for northern europe as I can see.

P.S. N73Jq is finally available in Croatia... ordered mine yesterday, will be delivered on monday... can't wait

ordered from here for 965€, its without OS version, with W7HP is 100€ higher price

Asus prijenosno ra?unalo N73JQ-TY133 - Po?to poto

N73JQ-TY133, Intel, Core i7, 740QM, 1,73 GHz, 2x 2048 MB, 17,3'', 1600x900, 2x 500 GB, Free DOS, NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 425M (N11P-GS) 1GB, DVD±RW DL, 1x 10/100/1000 Ethernet,Bluetooth,802.11b/g/n, HDMI 1, USB 2.0 2, 3,4 kg, USB 3.0 1, eSATA 1

 

I from Slovakia,and I have not found in asus site,but i found in shop on Slovakia, before there was N73Jq

 

Hello,
I have a N73JQ for 1 week now and the battery life is so short:
57 minutes in High Performance and 1:20 in Quit Office
I did'nt try Battery Saving because the screen is then not so nice!
Wich are your settings for saving battery?
Thanks

 

Have been trying to buy it for last few days but they are out of stock everywhere in my country. Couple of shops said on their website that they had them in stock but they were lying so that you get sucked into ordering and then waiting

One shop will apparently have 10 pieces in stock tomorrow so I will see how that pans out. I am actually tempted to wait as Sandybridge laptops are coming out in a month. All the i7 laptops will fall in price so might be a good time to snap them up on the cheap.

 

I use mine on AC power whenever possible, so I haven't tested the battery life. But I know the HIGH PERFORMANCE setting isn't intended as a battery profile.....basically it leaves everything running at full power all the time, so of course it's going to result in minimal battery life.

Have you tried the BALANCED setting? Any of the power settings can be customized, BTW, so you can amp up the display brightness within any profile you want. Personally, I can't imagine that, as I find LED displays overbright to begin with. I have to turn the brightness way down to make it tolerable, but hey, to each his own.

Hey, speaking of power settings....

A minor annoyance I haven't been able to resolve is the N73 not waking up when I open the lid. I think every other laptop I've had did that, so I'm still not used to having to hit the button to get it going. It's a little thing, I know, but it bugs me.

I looked around in the power profile options but couldn't find anything about wake-up on opening the lid. Does anybody know if that's adjustable somewhere?

 

Do you have two hard drives? I've got one, and I get a full two hours on battery.

On battery, I run on "Quiet Office." I have the BlueTooth disabled, and the DVD drive as well.

EDIT: My "Quiet Office" Max processor setting is 70%, min is 0%.

If you do have two hard drives, can you turn one off while you are on battery? Can you disable it in Device Manager?

In the Asus Power4Gear software, you can make a lot of adjustments, but getting only one hour seems too short if you have only one HDD.

 

Hi all,

I am looking into the N73JQ-XVI and had some questions I was hoping you could answer:

(1) Many Asus laptops today have a strong bluish tinge to the display. Does the N73JQ also have this?

(2) Could anyone tell me what the core temps are when idling, using youtube, watching videos or using MS Word?

(3) I have tried the N61JQ-XVI and noticed that the colors on that notebook are somewhat white-washed and high-res pictures have blurry pixels. Does this occur on the N73JQ as well?

Thanks in advance.

 

windsong7:

I haven't looked into the core temps, so hopefully someone else can help you with that. As for the display "issues," what I think you're describing are normal characteristics of LED display technology. I searched far and wide for a new laptop and even tried out a couple others first before settling on the N73. They all had LED displays....that just seems to be the standard now....and they all exhibited the tendencies you describe. I really don't like it as well as LCD, and I would have chosen an LCD if it were available, but LED owns the market now, at least for laptops. It helps to know that it's a more energy-efficient technology, I suppose....

I do find that lowering the brightness considerably and bringing up the contrast a little help to mitigate the LED effect somewhat. Nothing, however, seems to eliminate that backlit glow....the "white-washed" look you describe....and I think it's just something you just have to accept in new laptops these days. That said, I've gotten pretty used to it at this point. I kind of hated it at first, but I barely notice it now.

 

Brody, regarding power behavior with the lid, you can go to the Windows, Personalize, Screeen Saver to get to the power settings that tell the computer what to do when the lid closes. Note that there is no option for what happens when it opens. You might want to match these settings in Power4Gear, but I believe Windows overrides in this instance.

You can set it so, when you close the lid, the laptop sleeps rather than hibernates, and then, when you open again, you can tap any button and it comes back on almost instantly.

I have an Asus M2N, about 7 years old, and it behaves the same way. So does my wife's Acer and my mother's IBM. None of them come back on without at least tapping a key or moving the mouse when the lid opens, though looking online I see that a few brands had models that did in the past.

When I am using the laptop at home, I don't close the lid often. I hibernate, and then cover it with a hideously bright orange t-shirt. I wouldn't want to close the lid, have it go into sleep mode, then forget it isn't hibernating before packing it to carry somewhere, because then the battery would go faster.

The problem with opening and closing the lid, in my opinion, is that the hinges wear out faster. Like I said, I have an Asus from 2003, and I treated the lid the same way, and it is still nice and tight.

Where the heck else would somebody write all those sentences on a laptop lid? Only on NBR!

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Windsong, the idle core-temps are 39 deg C on mine, 40 deg C when surfing the Web. These temps are with it plugged in and set at max performance. If you look back through this thread, somewhere I reported the temps while running Battlefield BC2 at nearly maxed out settings.

As for the display, in a completely dark room with a black desktop and the taskbar set to "auto-hide," if I look at an angle, it does seem as if there is a slight glow reflecting off of the inside of the edge-to-edge screen, but it is so slight I did not notice it until reading your question. For photos and movies, the colors seem accurate and rich; the contrast is excellent, to my eyes.

Absolutely no blue-tinge on my display, which, by the way, shows in Device Manager as a Seiko-Epson.

I have to say, once again, that I'm very pleased with how stable this is. So far, thank goodness (and knock on wood), I haven't had any problems with Win7 Ultimate, XP Mode, or anything else.

 

just started using it
is it normal that touchpad is much slower on the edge than in center? haven't noticed that on other laptops that my friends have... this is mine personal first lap, so i don't have any experience...

 

You could try going to the touchpad settings and disabling all of the "extras," like tapping, scrolling, magnifying, etc. Then add them back one by one and see what you like or don't like.

If you still have the difference in speed with all of the "extra" effects disabled, maybe try uninstalling and re-installing the touchpad drivers.

I rarely do much against the edge of the touchpad, but I just tried it, and I don't see any difference. But I keep all of the extra features off.

Enjoy your new machine!

 

Ok 10 units have arrived at my local shop. The laptop has everything I want but the glossy screen is preventing me from biting the bullet so far. I will go to the shop and see if they will let me look at it (they are in sealed boxes).

I am a graphic artist and even if I was not I think the reflection would give me eye/head ache.

I so want to buy this laptop otherwise!!!! grrrr

 

Indeed...that's I love about forums! There can be elaborate discussions of what others might consider the most arcane & minute matters....but when that's the matter you're actually interested in, it's so great to find a community of the like-minded!

Thanks for your reply. I'm familiar with the settings for "lid-closing" behavior.....I do have it sleep when I close the lid. In fact, I hardly ever turn my computers completely off. But I guess we have owned oddly coincidental sets of laptops, as all the ones I've owned (as well my son's current Toshiba) wake up when opening the lid....no mouse or button tap needed. The Asus is my first laptop that doesn't.

Like I said, it's only a minor annoyance, but I'm so used to "wake-on-open" that I still often wait briefly for my N73's screen to light up before I remember I have to hit the button. What's that saying about old dogs and new tricks....? I'm sure I'll get used to it.

 

boys ,big differences is between FullHD and HD+

HD+ have :
17.3 cali 16:9, 1600x900 pikseli, Samsung SEC544B / LTN173KT01000, podświetlanie diodami LED, refleksująca: tak

Parametry
maksimum: 200.3 cd/m²
średnia: 186.3 cd/m²
rozświetlenie: 88 %
czerń: 0.9 cd/m²
kontrast: 223:1

FUll HD have :
17.3 inch 16:9, 1920x1080 pixel, Hannstar_HSD173PUW1, plasic plate in front of screen, glossy: yes

Maximum: 174 cd/m²
Average: 152.4 cd/m²
Illumination: 72 %
Black: 0.33 cd/m²
Contrast: 491:1
Brightness on battery: 162 cd/m²

 

I don't mean to be a cheerleader for this laptop, but here's my take.

I'm sitting in a very bright public library right now. Overhead lights are intensely bright, and I'm sitting next to a window overlooking a shady walkway. Yes, on one side of the screen, I can see the reflection of the overhead lights, but for typing, watching a vid, etc, no problem.

Now for certain activities, when I'm in a brightly lit area, I do set the background colors lighter, which helps sort of "neutralize" some glare. One example would be playing online poker if I have overhead lights reflecting off of the center of the screen. (But in 90% of situations I can set up in a better area or just turn the laptop a little.)

Trying to edit dark images or ones with subtle color in a very brightly lit area would be difficult, but that would be true on a matte-screen display too (at least for me).

When I was looking at HDTV's, I had to decide between glossy and matte. In my opinion, the contrast and color richness are superior on glossy displays. However, if you are in sunlight working on your laptop, this one will make you move your head from side to side. Otherwise, as you will see when you go check them out, the bright, colorful screen is very usable in a lot of different light settings.

 

Hello,
You can change the glossy screen in matte with the following product.
Very effective. I have one on my N73JQ and I am very happy. No reflection anymore and the colors are preserved.
It take 2 minutes to put it over the screen without bubbles.

Vikuiti? screen protector ARMR200 for Asus N73Jq

It is a product coming from 3M, I think

Season greetings

 

Selamat looks interesting but being a graphic designer I am not sure what effect it will have on visual quality, colour display etc. Also it might look tacky when I am with clients.

Even if I could live with Glossy screen there seems to be a bigger issue that seems to have cropped up---> OPTIMUS thing grrrrrr!!!!!

It seems Optimus is very buggy. What I mean is that for normal users you won't notice anything bad but my powerful apps like 3d software seem to have issues with it according to Google. It would be better if I could allow Optimus to be switched off somehow so that GT425 is used exclusively all the time! Seems there is no such option?

Anyway I started this thread on Sony forum.

Notice the 5 to 2 wins in favour of Asus though

 

Hello LapLap,
the Optimus system is not compatible with Intel I7, thus your solution is there.
The screen protector is totally invisible.
Greetings

 

What do you mean? It clearly says in the Asus specs-

Graphic-Adapter: nVidia GeForce GT 425M with 1GB (Optimus)

While on the Sony one it says-

Graphic-Adapter: nVidia GeForce GT 425M mit 1GB (Dedicated)

Are you saying the Asus with i7 are effectively always using the GT 425 and never the integrated Intel solution?

Edit- From the local shop's website about the Asus-

 

Hi LapLap,
effectively, i tried to install Optimus om my N73JQ I7-740 with GT425M but the answer was negative, not possible with this hardware.!!! Nothing to do.

We are not alone with this.
See on the Dell forum:
Nvidia Optimus issue with Intel 740QM processor - Laptop General Hardware Forum - Laptop - Dell Community

On the site :
Optimus Technology

You can see wich laptop is compatible with Optimus.

 

The i7-740 in the N73 doesn't have integrated graphics.

 

Right! Optimus only works with Intel's integrated graphic hardware, which is not present with this variety of i7, but Optimus is basically a battery saving device. You need to know ahead of time that the N73 is only going to give you two hours of battery time.

Optimus has no other purpose that I know of...

That screen cover looks good for those who need to reduce the glare, and the blond introducing it in the video looks like a great teacher!

 

Yes battery time is not important for me as I would be using electric outlet always So looks like it is down to just the screen between Asus and Sony.
I could not go to the shop yesterday due to snow and cold but I am off now to check stuff again. I hope I find an open Asus somewhere.

 

Ok I am back full circle and I am about to press the order button and pick N73JQfrom the shop in the morning Looks like I will be in your camp by tomorrow. I will drink a glass of wine first think it over one last time and then press the order button.

Give me strength

 

Well, I got the new SSD installed last night!

The transition was pretty seamless, though I found (as I have before) that Windows Backup & Restore can be somewhat balky at the worst times. It couldn't find or retrieve the system image on my external USB drive, so I was glad I'd opted for redundancy and made an Acronis image as well. Acronis found it right away, restored it quickly, and the new drive booted perfectly.

It's noticeably faster for Windows start-up and opening some of my bigger programs. The start-up time is what's most impressive, though I can't say that's a huge deal for me since I seldom turn the computer off anyway. If you were someone who does turn your machine on & off a lot, I suspect that benefit alone would be worth the upgrade. I've had slow-booting computers (especially VISTA ) for which one of these drives could have worked wonders, I suspect.

What I really like, aside from the speed, is that it runs so quiet and cool. I'm not really used to it yet, so it's weird that that whole area around the first drive bay generates no heat at all! In recent years, as 2.5" drive capacities and speed have increased, they've also gotten hotter and noisier. But it's like this thing isn't even there! I can't help but think that this should help lower the overall system temp and put less strain on the cooling system over the long run. That's a big plus.

Now that my drives configuration is finally complete, I can start loading my data and complete setting up my programs. I wiped the Seagate 500Gb drive that came with the N73 and I'm going to use it as my D: drive for data.

So...my tweaks thus far:

• Added an SSD as my system drive, assigning the OEM drive to data-only duties
• Upgraded the Atheros WLAN card to an Intel
• Added a third antenna (though not really necessary at this point)
• Clean-installed Windows 7 Pro
• Eliminated most of the Asus bloatware

Overall, I'm pretty happy with the results. It's a clean, fast machine that runs very quiet and cool. I think the only tinkering I have left, for now, might be trying to change the feel of the keyboard. It's kind of "spongy" for my tastes, so I'd like to give it a firmer backing, if possible.

BTW, as regards the screen discussion, I really like a gloss screen. They seem clearer to me.

Just get it. You can always return it if you don't like it, can't you?

 

Does not work like that in Europe generally We pay more and don't even get that option. Software costs almost 1.5 to 2 times more than US too! Everyone thinks we are made of money for some reason.

What capacity SSD did you buy? What model and make? Why did you use restore thing instead of a fresh OS install on the SSD drive?

Edit- Can the GT425M drive a 2560x1600 res external display? The 30" display had DVI-D Dual link connection so the VGA output form the laptop won't drive it. So does that mean the HDMI connection will do the job? I will need something like a HDMI to DVI-D Dual link cable right?

 

For the N73, I bought a 120Gb Intel X-25M. When you run a system the way I do, with Windows and all programs run from one drive and all data stored elsewhere, the system drive seldom uses more than 40-60Gb. (I'm only using about 48Gb right now, and that's with all my programs installed, including a full MS Office installation.) 120Gb is way more than needed, but that's okay.

I also bought a 128Gb Crucial RealSSD to use as the system drive in my desktop system. It's SATA III compatible, which most SSDs are not. I was also kind of curious to just compare the Intel and Crucial implementations, since they're two of the biggest names in SSDs right now.

I used a system image because I started setting up my system a week or two ago. I didn't want to wait until I decided on an SSD, and actually got it, before getting started. I already did the fresh OS install and had everything running exactly the way I wanted, so I just transferred it to the new drive and I was good to go.

 

A good option for SSDs is the Mushkin SF1200 drives, as the usual SF drives the performance is the same, the manufacturer is respected for the quality (you must be little older to know that) and the price is a steal

 

Great thread, i took delivery of my very own N73JQ just two days ago, for such great build quality the "mushy" feeling of the keyboard was somewhat of a disappointment but i easily remedied this by applying strips of self adhesive rubber (1/2" wide by 1/8" thick) to the bottom of the keyboard and it eliminated all deflection in the keyboard, it's a shame to have to do such a mod to a notebook of this price point but it is what it is and i prefer a firm keyboard.

the second HDD caddy is available through ASUS but is not necessary unless you're really anal about having the correct part, i just used the above mentoned self adhesive rubber strips and applied them inside the HDD bay opposite the sata connecter applying one strip atop the other doubling their height so the HDD is level and is sandwiched perfectly between the rubber strips that i applied and the foam/rubber strips of the access cover.

the access to the RAM and HDD's is EXTREMELY INCONVENIENT! not sure what the ASUS engineers/designers were thinking on that one but after installing my SSD i hope i don't have the need to get in there very often.

the lid does appear to be genuine aluminum as far as i can tell, if it's faux aluminum it's a very good imposter, i'm not prepared to scratch it to find out but it's always cold to the touch unlike plastic (i know, not very scientific).

the online spec sheets i've read list this notebook as having 1066Mhz RAM but i was pleasantly surprised to find mine came with 1333Mhz RAM, is this the case for everyone else as well?

at this price point ($1,300) i feel ASUS should have installed 8GB of RAM (2x4) leaving the 3rd slot open for later expansion if one wanted to upgrade to 12GB of RAM, as it's configured now one has to buy three sticks of 4GB RAM as opposed to just one stick to make that 12GB upgrade.

the "edge to edge" screen is a nice feature and makes cleaning the screen that much easier without having a bezel to contend with, not to mention the added rigidity i feel it gives to the screen.

i found the B&O speakers to be surprisingly robust for a notebook, clear, rich, good tone, not "tinny" sounding at all, will they blow you away, of course not, but they're pretty darn good for a notebook in my opinion.

while it's not true hi-def i find the 1600x900 native resolution to hit my visual "sweet spot" for a 17.3" screen but it does offer true 1920x1080 hi-def via the HDMI port.

aesthetically speaking it's a very attractive notebook with a sleek contemporary design without looking at all "gamerish" like its G73 cousin, it strikes a handsome profile while sitting on ones desk (i use mine primarily as a desktop replacement).

for my OS i did a clean Win7 install on my 80GB Intel SSD without any hitches and wiped the bloatware laden factory HDD clean and will use it for storage, that bumped my HDD's WEI score from 5.9 to 7.7 but the overall WEI score remained at 6.7 the Nvidia 425M being the reason, while a more than capable performer the Nvidia 425M is what holds the WEI score down. i only restart my computer once a day but the sub 10 second boot time is remarkable none the less with this current configuration.

all in all i'm quite pleased with this purchase and would recommend it to anyone looking for a quality built, future proof notebook, it does have a few weak points which i pointed out above but i feel the pros outweigh the cons with this notebook.

 

Welcome hatcher!

Sounds like you and I are very much of like minds about the N73....the pros, the cons, the approach to configuration. I've made pretty much the exact same mods to mine, though I haven't gotten around to the keyboard fix yet. I'm still getting used to the touchpad and LED glow, but all-in-all, I'm very happy with the N73.

(I agree on both your points about Asus design/config snafus....the back panel removal is unnecessarily tedious, and requiring three new mem chips to upgrade is ridiculous. I would add that, despite the fact that it's not really needed, they should just ship it with a drive bracket in the second bay.)

I wanted to go back and double-check Asus' site for the specs before commenting. But just as I recalled, it does list the N73's OEM memory as DDR3 1333 and that is, indeed, what I have in mine as well. The spec sheet you saw must have been in error, or maybe a typo caused PC3-10666 to be interpreted as "1066" RAM.

In any event, I suspect we all have DDR3-1333 memory modules.

 

everyone got 1333 Mhz

and about this, i wouldn't agree with you, if you look at the configurations of other manufacturers for the same price they don't offer you more ram, and if they do then the processor or graphic card is worse, and those two are much more important... 4GB or ram may seem small, but it's still plenty

 

Thank you all for your helpful comments!

I myself am about buying a N73, too, but I have some concern about changing the HDD for a SDD. Do you known whether changing a component like RAM or HDD void the 2-year warranty ASUS offers on the notebook?

Indeed, on many notebooks, you can easily have access to these components inside, however in the case of the N73 it seems rather tedious. Could you please check in the manual if the procedure is described - in which case I would assume that changing the HD is allowed under the warranty? Thank you very much in advance!

 

I order the Asus just now I feel relieved that it's all done finally. It will be ready to pick up from shop tomorrow morning. 10 pieces had arrived at the central warehouse 2 days ago and they flew off straight away. It was down to the last one and I had to make a quick decision.....so I just did

Phew! Hate spending money

Edit- Btw they just now got 10 new ones but the lower configuration model. 720QM instead of 740QM, 1920 x 900 instead of full HD, 4GB RAM instead of 6GB. Has 2x 650 GB though instead of my 2x 500GB. Total price is $100 cheaper.

 

Hatcher,

Nice review; hope you enjoy your new laptop.

Where did you get those rubber strips? Home Depot? I'd like to try that too.

Also, once you have the strips on, is it easy to remove the keyboard without tearing the foil underneath it? Are the strips adhesive on one side only?

And happy holidays (almost)!

Actually, it's quite easy. You pop off the keyboard (and there is no tape holding it down), and you get right to one of the RAM sticks. Remove 7 screws under the keyboard, and the bottom panel comes loose to get to the HDD, wireless adapter, and remaining RAM sticks. If you look again earlier in the thread, you can see pics from Gentech (courtesy of Asus support) and one from myself showing how to get to the components.

Changing RAM or HDD does not void the warranty, from my reading. These are standard user changeable features. But if I had to ship this to Asus for whatever reason, I would want to hold on to my SSD anyway. It's mine and not covered by warranty, so why send it to them?

 

The wait is killing me. If I had ordered few hours earlier then I could have picked it this evening already. Damn my indecisiveness What am I going to do till tomorrow morning?

Btw I am going on holiday in few days so might not have time to do clean install of the OS and will have to take the laptop as it is. Any specific pre-installed junk software you think I should uninstall straight away? Office starter thing I will uninstall straight away I think lol

 

Ummm, if you are going to clean install later, why not just enjoy as is during the holiday? I found that the actual performance doesn't change much. Just test everything, all the ports, features, etc.

BTW, I see that Asus has posted a new BIOS, audio drivers, and webcam drivers. (I already updated my nVidia once from nVidia....)

Has anybody else tried these Asus Support driver updates?

 

Ah, the wait! It's hard, isn't it? I'm glad you finally made your choice, and I think you'll like the N73.

As Cary said, if you intend to do a clean install soon, there's really no need to worry about what's on it now. Just play with it as is until you can start customizing.

 

I think the point (for me, anyway...I shouldn't speak for hatcher) is not so much the amount of RAM, but the configuration. By shipping with three 2Gb memory modules, any upgrade essentially means that you have to pull all of those and buy all new memory. If they had instead installed one or two 4Gb modules, the user could simply add additional modules if he/she needed more memory.

 

yeah, that's true, and I agree with that...

What kind of mouse are you using... I have logitech G5 from my old computer and i'm thinking to buy wireless one... I rarely play games and often use CAD and photo editing programs. Logitech g700 seems great because of extra buttons, very small usb receiver... but it isn't cheapest
Is anyone using a bluetooth mouse? Are they precise, is connection stable?
Which one would you recommend? I'm open for all solutions.