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    * Asus N61JQ Owners Lounge *

    Discussion in 'ASUS Reviews and Owners' Lounges' started by GregW, Feb 3, 2010.

  1. xismo

    xismo Notebook Consultant

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    Out the side is exactly where it's getting hot... The notebook itself is not too hot, but pretty warm... I should have the temperatures measured within an hour or so... Still have to uninstall all the crap it comes with...
     
  2. GregW

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    I don't know how to tax this unit to get it hot. I loaded up 6 HD tv shows at once and here is the temps.

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  3. GregW

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    Thank's for the tip on realtemp. I have been trying to find a good program and this one seems to work real well.
    And welcome to the thread. :D
    Which model do you have?
     
  4. brochiller

    brochiller Notebook Consultant

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    Those seem like some pretty good temps ally. Especially using the real world scenario of watching 6 HD shows at once. :D
     
  5. xismo

    xismo Notebook Consultant

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    I have the N61JQ-X1

    I think I might be worrying over nothing with the temperatures... I won't know till I see the numbers though :D Mind you 70 C is pretty hot for a cpu.
     
  6. GregW

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    It's great to finally have another X1 owner on board. Please give us some reviews when you get a chance.
     
  7. cookieofdoom

    cookieofdoom Notebook Consultant

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    For those worried about screen resolution... Go to Best Buy (if you can). They're bound to have a 15.6 or 16 inch 1366x768 laptop there. You can usually try out apps like IE, Wordpad, and some others to simulate your workload. They usually have a demo thing, but at the top right there's a button that says "explore this computer" that will take you to the desktop.

    I'll post more on the memory tomorrow. For right now I just wanted to get that out of the way. I'm off to bed.

    (and I don't recommend getting 1333mhz RAM, unless you can do it for under $50 or so).
     
  8. GregW

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    That's a pretty big step down. Why don't you just hook this up to your screen if you get it?
     
  9. Jgoble25

    Jgoble25 Notebook Geek

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    Did yall ever figure out where that guy with the high temps bought his notebook from or what model he really had?
     
  10. tarlyn

    tarlyn Notebook Consultant

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    I get my N71 tomorrow and if I dont see anything on the N71 by then I may start a thread for it as allyw123 said in one of the other threads the extra inch does attract a different buyer......whoever said size doesnt matter is lying!!!
     
  11. GregW

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    He is from Singapore and basically he has the same model as us. He solved his ram problems . I don't know if his heating problems are any better.
     
  12. tbrocato

    tbrocato Notebook Evangelist

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    The i7 is going 2 run hotter...we all know this BUT it was designed to handle these type of temps. I do not c the i7 QM going anywhere.
     
  13. tbrocato

    tbrocato Notebook Evangelist

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    Ally Did you have any thermal paste added....do you have laptop cooler ?
     
  14. cookieofdoom

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    Please go ahead and start a thread. The screen resolution and two hard drive bays definitely make it being different enough in my opinion. It'll be interesting to see if the extra space helps cooling.

    As concerns memory: I figured people were kind of panicking without reason, so I did some research. It seems the only place memory speed really matters is in benchmarks. The default memory in the N61JQ is 1066MHZ @ 7-7-7-20.

    You will notice in the charts that it consistently scores in the lower range, that's because it isn't terribly fast. You'll also notice that in all but the synthetic benchmarks the difference is so small that it's silly to spend money to upgrade to 1333mhz. Even the minor tweaks I might try with my overclocking seem like a waste of time given what little they do.

    Long story short: Check the charts, they probably have your most-used application, or one similar to it, listed. If better RAM is getting a significantly higher score (which I doubt it is) then maybe consider getting better RAM. Otherwise you should save your money.
     
  15. TheatreTech37

    TheatreTech37 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Got my N61JQ-A1 yesterday and i am loving it :) great buy and reccomend it to all
     
  16. tbrocato

    tbrocato Notebook Evangelist

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    Grats bro...I should have mine in a week!! :p
     
  17. tbrocato

    tbrocato Notebook Evangelist

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    I was just reading about Intel's new 6 core chip....its getting 2 crazy. Software companys need 2 step up the game and start using more of the processor.
     
  18. URPradhan

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    Please share your laptop pictures and your review.
     
  19. TheatreTech37

    TheatreTech37 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Will do this weekend... unforunately school is getting in the way :/ only 3 more months till freedom :) but ya i will get some pics and a review up soon
     
  20. GregW

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    Thank's, We will be looking forward to your review. And welcome to the Lounge! :D
     
  21. GregW

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    Great news! Thank's for the research. We can all stop stressing on it. Maybee we can all calm down on the heat too. Seems like a lot of dire warnings without the hard facts to back it up. :eek:
     
  22. GregW

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    I'm with you bro! Lets all chill out with the heat panic. :D
     
  23. URPradhan

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    If i7 produces more heat then why go for it (N61JQ), instead i5 (N61JA) should be the alternative as it has EXACTLY same config with blue-ray ROM.
     
  24. visithwy61

    visithwy61 Notebook Guru

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    its not offered in the states at this time for one.
     
  25. URPradhan

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    There is a pause from Asus, but expect it to be available soon with lower i5-520M upgrade price :p
     
  26. tbrocato

    tbrocato Notebook Evangelist

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  27. xismo

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    Alright, so I was up till 3:30 am last night setting up everything and got the numbers for temps.

    Idle was running at 52-58 C all cores, and running installations and photoshop was around 62-70 C.

    The highest it ever went was 72 I think. So yeah hopefully it's nothing to stress about, I'm also hoping that the processor was designed to handle these kind of temps. As for the thermal compound, I think Ally (same as me) got his JQ-X1 through newegg which doesn't give you an option like that. I would love to do it though.

    When I took my last laptop (HP) apart and took down the heatsink, I noticed there was very little compound on the cpu and NONE on the gpu. You can purchase compund for both that when you are buying with customization from xotic or gentech but not from newegg as they get their boxes sealed directly from Asus.

    I might still get a nice cooler for mine though, since I'm going to need a usb hub, so might as well get a cooler with 4 usbs.
     
  28. tbrocato

    tbrocato Notebook Evangelist

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    Once I get my laptop next week I am going 2 c what kind of temps I am getting... I had IC Diamond Placed on CPU / GPU...and I have a cooler master laptop stand incoming also. Also thanks Xismo for checking on temps.
     
  29. xismo

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    Nice on the IC Diamond. I think that'll help and paired with the cooler master, I think you'll be getting temps around 40s-60s max.

    I was just little worried cause my HP was nowhere near those temps (even though the faulty Nvidia gpu was overheating) and when I got the Toshiba with i5, it was also running a lot cooler.
     
  30. waqas1988

    waqas1988 Notebook Guru

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    hey everyone. i will be receiving my asus n61jq-a1 tomorrow i'll be taking pics of the unboxing, screen, keyboard, basically everything and posting them online.

    how much can i upload to the forum directly? if its not a lot (i plan to take high def pics), then i'll upload the pics to a business site that i run.
     
  31. waqas1988

    waqas1988 Notebook Guru

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    there are advantages to the core i7. look it up at intel's site. you will obviously have to deal with higher amounts of heat for more performance, which you will get with the i7.
     
  32. brochiller

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    Even with the hotter temps of the i7, it is designed to handle those temperatures, so I wouldn't be too worried about it.
     
  33. xismo

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    I think so too, but since it's so new, only time will tell :)

    One question though, not sure if anyone knows. Looking at the bottom of the JQ to see what has to be done in order to upgrade ram I saw there is one bigger plate with 6 or so screws covering most of the rear. I'm wondering if it's the easy access to motherboard. I know lenovo makes it like that.
     
  34. m0nkey

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    Just received my N61JQ-X1 from Newegg today, haven't had much time to use it yet but it is a very quiet machine and I have had no heat issues.
     
  35. waqas1988

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    keep in mind that intel probably did extensive research and testing before releasing the processor in the first place...if it was overheating laptops, etc, it wouldn't have been released.
     
  36. xismo

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    Well even though that's what I'm relying myself, after what happened with my previous laptop and discovering how companies like Nvidia and HP are lying to their customers and make them buy products which are defective (overheating issues) and don't even have the courtesy to pull the affected models off the shelves, not to mention recall it, you can't blame me for being a little skeptical.

    Nvidia was in my opinion also a company that does extensive testing of their chips before they ship them, but I gues they don't. I found out the hard way, which is why I bought the JQ in the first place.

    Plus, you know how it is with consumer products... Giving it to the hands of milions of people almost always reveals stuff you can't possibly discover in the testing labs.
     
  37. DeadManMac

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    Well, I did it. I finally decided to pull the trigger on an N61JQ-A1. Not exactly sure when I will have it in my hands, but it shouldn't take too long. I was going to wait and see how the Lenovo Y560 compares, but I'm too impatient. ;)

    I also ordered a tube of IC Diamond Thermal Compound which I intend to apply myself. I will do some temperature testing before and after applying the IC Diamond if anyone is interested.

    Can't wait! :D
     
  38. xismo

    xismo Notebook Consultant

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    I'd love to see the before and after numbers.... Aren't you worried you're going to void your warranty though? Do you know anything about disassembling the N61JQ? I was mentioning in my previous post that it looks to me as if the JQ had the same "easy" access to the motherboard as lenovo models.
     
  39. tarlyn

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    Well UPS is deciding to wait forever to delivery the package.....5 pm and still out for delivery and I leave for work in an hour so hopefully it arrives before I need to leave just so I know its here but no new thread until tomorrow if one doesnt exist by then!
     
  40. Jgoble25

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    I'm not saying adding the thermal paste doesn't help but IMO I would rather not have people taking apart my freshly built computer to add something that may only make a negligible difference, trained or not. I would think all the engineers would have said hey we need to include this in the build if it mattered that much. Plus if it could not handle the temps it put out I doubt they would offer a standard two year warranty.... Just my 2 cents... spend your money how ya want.
     
  41. brochiller

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    Can somebody here who has the N61 check to see how fast the RAM of this laptop is? It's just come to people's attention today that the new G51Jx and N71 both have 1333 MHz RAM instead of 1066. This was completely unexpected to the owners of the models, retailers, and it even said that they had 1066 MHz RAM on the box of the machine itself.

    I'm just curious, but if somebody could either check the physical RAM itself, or use a program like CPU Z, that would be great!

    http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
     
  42. cookieofdoom

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    Allyw123 already did.
     
  43. brochiller

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    Oh ok thanks cookie. I don't know how I missed that.
     
  44. GregW

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    Congatulations and welcome to the Lounge. Looking forward to your reviews.
    Unfortunately you can only upload 485kb per picture and 5 pictures at a time.
    I found if you resized the pictures to the smallest size they would work. But that is not HD. :D
     
  45. cookieofdoom

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    Sites like tinypic and imageshack work, too. Just make sure to post thumbnails.
     
  46. URPradhan

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    Its a personal choice to choose, I would always go for lower HEAT processor/laptop, coz do not want to change the laptop in every 1-2 years :D
     
  47. URPradhan

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    Every processor/laptop manufacturer TESTs their product before launch. But still we get genuine problems. That may be they have not found the defect before launch or ignored it (less likely).

    HEAT is the main killer to the life of a laptop. If the inside temperature remain high due to processor or GPU it will affect other components like capacitors, etc. After 1-2 years of use, the capacitors will swell and the laptop may start malfunctioning

    [​IMG]
     
  48. brochiller

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    I think I'm going to get a cooler for this just to be safe. Anybody have any suggestions considering how the laptop is manufactured? I'm thinking of the Zalman NC2000. Would that be good for this laptop?
     
  49. waqas1988

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    ur right about malfunctioning/defective/poorly designed consumer products. that's why asus' 2 yr warranty is awesome! i just went to best buy today and bought a Targus Lap Chill Mat, which is usually $40 for $24.99 just in case heat becomes an issue while gaming.

    however, i highly doubt that the core i7s have a common heat problem...it may occur in some defective/improperly installed units but there's no way to stop that. hopefully everything will go well!
     
  50. waqas1988

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    just snagged a Targus Lap Chill Mat from Bestbuy ( http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Targus+...1218103734860&skuId=9427042&st=lap chill mat). So far, it works great and seems to be blowing cooler air than room temperature(?). It's got two fans and its super quiet...so if u don't mind not having a USB on it, you can save $25 at least with this one.
     
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