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    * Asus N61JQ Owners Lounge *

    Discussion in 'ASUS Reviews and Owners' Lounges' started by GregW, Feb 3, 2010.

  1. hirush

    hirush Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks for clearing it out, I was wondering why ASUS doesn't provide driver for their device.

    Sorry I didn't take the card out first time. Now I am looking at it now, it is the same card AR5B95 by AzureWave in the same picture of wasqas1988 taken. I tried taking several shots of the card but don't come out clear enough, damn my aging camera...

    BTW, what is the original net card you have on your N61JQ stevedogg?

    EDIT: Now I look into hardware IDS it is PCI\VEN_168C&DEV_002B&SUBSYS_10891A3B&REV_01
    Description: Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter

    I wonder why the card is not being recognized as AR5B95. Or could it be AR9285 with wrong label?
     
  2. stevedogg

    stevedogg Notebook Evangelist

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    I haven't opened mine up, and I'm not sure I want to :p. Looking forward to seeing if the driver hacking works and if you can connect afterwards.
     
  3. stevedogg

    stevedogg Notebook Evangelist

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    It's possible. Does the chip itself have any numbers that match the ones on the label? It could be any of these:

    1) AR9285 with the wrong label
    2) AR5B95 with the wrong hardware ID
    3) AR5B95 with the wrong driver INF file (improperly matching hardware ID to device model)
     
  4. hirush

    hirush Notebook Evangelist

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    I have just taken some clearer shots this time. With front and back shot of the AR5B95.

    http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee94/voodoo_realm/DSCF0562.jpg

    http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee94/voodoo_realm/DSCF0564.jpg

    I'll try to edit inf file and see if I could get AR5B95 installed correctly. My card is telling me to lol

    EDIT: There is virtually no driver support for AR5B95 at the moment. The driver on ASUS site is actually the most recent one (dated October 2009) I can find after googling. I need to find some other win7 driver for AR5B95...

    EDIT 2: After reinstalling driver still getting AR9285 on device manager, but out of curiosity I took a download benchmark and this is what I got.

    http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee94/voodoo_realm/AR9285driver.jpg

    Funny thing is I usually get around 15000 kbp/s wireless download speed. I'll try it out morning and afternoon time and see if I could replicate the same download speed.
     
  5. stevedogg

    stevedogg Notebook Evangelist

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    Maybe the AR9285 and AR5B95 are the same card /shrug. FWIW, the Azurewave part number is AW-NE785H (blacked out on your photo and partially obscured by the sticker waqas1988's photo).
     
  6. wishmaster.dj

    wishmaster.dj Notebook Evangelist

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    i sure hope asus takes a good note of the demand of this baby! Well, i am sure even you guys must have informed them about the huge fan following this baby is gathering! Thanks for the update paladin44! :)
     
  7. ConsumerIsKing

    ConsumerIsKing Notebook Enthusiast

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    I think its a hype for Readon 5730 and USB 3.0.
    But the resolution is killing all these specs.
     
  8. Deathwinger

    Deathwinger Notebook Virtuoso

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    Why is there hype for the Radeon 5730 though, isn't it just an upper middle ranged card? I thought hype would more generate for top of the line graphics cards and within this range not many people would care what the graphics card was once it was dedicated.
     
  9. ConsumerIsKing

    ConsumerIsKing Notebook Enthusiast

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    Here one got from Amazon for $999.
    Hope the price of this will come under $1000 in March '10 :D

    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0034GXNYM/?tag=acer-aod250-1694-20

    [​IMG]
     
  10. Apollo610

    Apollo610 Notebook Enthusiast

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    That $999 is for the X1 model, not the A1. A1 goes generally for $1065.

    Though, you can get the A1 for about $980 off reputable EBAY dealers, using BING 8% cash back (this is for US consumers, not sure how international would work).
     
  11. superjojo

    superjojo Notebook Consultant

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    I paid $999 too at amazon with free 2 day shipping...but for the X1 (320gb, 1yr warranty).

    It is still available at this price for those of you that can't wait for the A1 to come back in stock.
     
  12. wishmaster.dj

    wishmaster.dj Notebook Evangelist

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    will it have the warranty and everything else similar to buying from xotic/pnb/gentech?
     
  13. Apollo610

    Apollo610 Notebook Enthusiast

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    The 2-year warranty is manufacturers, not resellers - so yes, they will have the warranty. The reseller I purchased from had a 14-day no questions asked return policy as well, which IS specific to them.

    Any questions about specifics purchases, though, should be directed at the seller. :)

    The main difference I would imagine is that folks who like the hands-on post-sale care will find that going with one of the resellers here will be worth the extra $$.
     
  14. darkdaisuke

    darkdaisuke Notebook Enthusiast

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    So what I've read so far the A1 is sold out at gentech, xotic and powernotebooks? I really wish returning my x1 hadn't taken so long, cause now I have the money for the a1.
     
  15. ConsumerIsKing

    ConsumerIsKing Notebook Enthusiast

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    FYI, now again PNB slashed the price from $1065 to $1032 (same as offered by XoticPC /GenTechPC).
     
  16. Deathwinger

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    Lol well, sounds appropriate, now that their customers have to play the waiting game like everyone else.
     
  17. Adamal

    Adamal Notebook Evangelist

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    I looked at the card before I installed it. There are drivers on ASUS's website but they are for Azurewave which is the maker of the wireless card. If you go back far enough in this thread someone posted a link to a pic of the wireless card.

    I'm not sure why it's listed wrong under the device manager. I haven't tried hunting down better drivers since for me there is really no need. I don't have a router that does 5.0 Ghz.

    Like I said, I'd still recommend the intel 5100 or even the new models 6xxx models.
     
  18. ryalnos

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    Because of the DX11 support, perhaps?
     
  19. doubleatheman

    doubleatheman Notebook Guru

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    Amazon is out too :( (You all already know this)

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    Most definitely!

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    ASUS did underestimate the demand for usb 3 and dx 11 in a sub $1000 Core i7 laptop...

    I still can't belive a core i7 quad, dx11, usb 3.0, led laptop is only $1000

    Try to price a dell xps 16 with the same specs its like $1400
     
  20. superjojo

    superjojo Notebook Consultant

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    To those wanting switchable graphics:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220706

    There's an N71 with a Core i3 and GT325 switchable for $899. Maybe later revisions of the N61 and N71 with Core i5 and dual Core i7 are coming with switchable graphics.

    Although I should probably post this in the N71 forums as it is a 17-incher
     
  21. doubleatheman

    doubleatheman Notebook Guru

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    Just looking into the TDP that the cooler on this thing has to deal with,

    CPU + Chipset: 48.5 watts

    CPU: http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=43122

    Chipset: http://ark.intel.com/chipset.aspx?familyID=43181

    ATI: 5730 26 watts

    http://www.amd.com/us/products/notebook/graphics/ati-mobility-hd-5700/Pages/hd-5730-specs.aspx

    Total: 74.5 watts.

    Is the HM55 attached to the cooler, or a cooler? Assuming its TDP is so low (3.5 watts) its probably just open to the air.

    I'm just getting at 74.5 watts is quite a bit of heat, I'm amazed that the overall review from you folks (or the first 77 pages) is that it doesn't get too hot. Which is good to hear. Just for so many watts in such a little area it seems like any laptop with this cpu and gpu would burn.
     
  22. jjjjohn

    jjjjohn Notebook Enthusiast

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    Dislike of newegg, full 2 year warranty, larger HDD, but most of all supporting my local computer shop who has been great to me for years (I'm not a computer geek).
     
  23. hirush

    hirush Notebook Evangelist

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    The air blow out from left side of vent get warm to very warm, but not to the level of being uncomfortable if I placed my hand covering vent when games like guild war, mass effect and left 4 dead 2 is running.

    http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee94/voodoo_realm/DSCF0566.jpg

    It looks like the heatsink is made of copper, connected with 2 heatpipes, then the 2 heatpipes connected to GPU and additional heatpipe place on top of GPU (so a total of 3 heatpipes). All 3 heatpipes all go to big fan.
     
  24. doubleatheman

    doubleatheman Notebook Guru

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    Thanks! Amazon needs to fix that... as long as I'm getting a US keyboard... What country is the keyboard from sown in the amazon pics? the enter key is just weird looking.... lol
     
  25. doubleatheman

    doubleatheman Notebook Guru

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    Thanks for the closeup shot of the heat pipes!

    One more thing I have noticed from looking at the back of this thing... the air inlet is not right under the fan, but rather slits along the bottom near the hard drive and along the front. I see two advantages.

    One: you can't as easily block all of the vents, if your lap is covering the vent over the hard drive, I assume the air will flow in the other vent next to the hard drive and vice versa.

    Two: this airflow design forces the air to move over the main board of the laptop itself allowing a bit more cooling, cool air is sucked over the main board and all components, and then forced through the heat fins.

    I also noticed that plastic cover in the area near the fan is bulged out a little bit, allowing more air to flow into the fan, unlike most laptops that give like 1.5mm for air to flow.

    I'm noticing this all because my old dell had all of its air inlets right under the CPU fan, and when you sit it on your lap or a pillow the little vent is covered right up, and the poor thing gets absolutely burning hot if you don't notice your blocking all of its air. I have a bad habit of using my laptop when laying on the ground, so my carpeting blocks all of the vents, so I usually have one hand propping up the side of the laptop so it can get cool air. lol.
     
  26. hirush

    hirush Notebook Evangelist

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    That's US keyboard. And there is some wave pattern brushed on top cover which doesn't shown clearly on newegg photo.

    One thing for certain, this thing looks sleek :)
     
  27. brochiller

    brochiller Notebook Consultant

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    I think the Amazon photo is the British keyboard. I see a pound symbol (£) along the top of the keyboard on the number three. I'm sure you wouldn't get that if you ordered in the United States, probably just an old stock photo.
     
  28. hirush

    hirush Notebook Evangelist

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    My bad, I thought we were talking about newegg photo lol
    The keyboard layout also resemble of english/french keyboard in Canada.
     
  29. novelover

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    hehe. I would always try to avoid buying pc/notebook locally due to the high sale tax, PST+GST: 13.5%. You guys from south would probably never be able to imagine that. :D

    I will wait the N71JQ-X1 to be available from either Amazon.Ca or Newegg.ca.
     
  30. kevin55

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    Im debating on wether to get the IC diamond compound or not, how many people actually have done this? I will be using this laptop for school and gaming, but i heard it stays pretty cool itself.
     
  31. brochiller

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    I got it but I haven't received my laptop yet. It's supposed to be here tomorrow though and I'll be posting some temps if you're interested. Can't say whether or not I'll be able to put the temps up tomorrow or not, but I should be able to sometime in the next few days.
     
  32. doubleatheman

    doubleatheman Notebook Guru

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    People from California in the US can imagine that!! 9.750% here :( Ordering it online saved me $104.03 or 67.30 pounds
     
  33. ConsumerIsKing

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    What are the makes of different hardware components sitting inside N61JQ-A1 and does it same for each and every N61JQ-A1 ?

    1. HDD (Seagate, WD, etc....)
    2. RAM (Kingston, Corsair, etc ...)
    3. LCD (LG, Samsung, etc ...)
    4. DVD Drive (LG, Samsung, etc ...)
    5. Speakers
    etc ...
     
  34. slatecaller

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    Got mine from XOTIC with IC and it idles in the low 50's. Im not really a gamer but wanted the extra insurance.
     
  35. doubleatheman

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    The ram is:

    Hynix hmt125s6bfr8c-g7 2GB

    http://www.hynix.com/datasheet/eng/...No=1&m=1&s=1&RK=20&RAM_NAME=DDR3 SDRAM-Module

    This can be seen in this video if you pause it at 6:03

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpu_qF_cpzo

    I don't Know about the other parts... that would require my laptop actually being here... which its not :p yet :)
     
  36. fringle

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    So I got a strange little issue now. I formatted and installed my own copy of Windows 7 ultimate and for some reason certian games and GPU-Z are reporting my video card as having 0 mb of Ram. Anyone know of a way to fix this as it wasn't an issue before the new install.
     
  37. Deathwinger

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    It keeps things cooler by 10 degrees. I suggest you get it as applying it yourself later on will void your warranty.

    And its always good to keep a laptop as cool as possible by any convenient means necessary. :)
     
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    Alright thanks for the comments, ill definitely get the IC compound, one more thing is i havnt seen much talk about what games people have been able to play. Its hard for me to keep up what graphics card is good now because the numbers are so different. would this laptop be able to play diablo III when it comes out? (i know its hard without requirement specs) how about batman asylum on high settings
     
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    For Diablo III, I'm fairly certain that it will run it with everything turned up. Blizzard has a habit of having their games run on mid range systems very well when they come out.

    For batman asylum, I'm going to guess based on the requirements (I don't own it) that it should be able to run it just fine at high.
     
  41. Never Trust a Hippy

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    I really want to order this laptop the only thing that scares me is the 1366x768 resolution. How do you guys like the resolution, it just seems so small.
     
  42. GregW

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    Brochiller, You know we want to see your temps. We are all obsessed with the temps :D . I'm glad you finally got your laptop! Keep us updated.
     
  43. GregW

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    I don't think anyone will tell you that the reolution is ideal. A few have said it is unacceptable. I think most feel like I do. It really doesn't bother me. And it is by no means a deal breaker.
    I think everyone that has ordered this laptop has debated if they could live with this screen. But at $1000 something has to be compromised.
    P.S I love this machine! :D
     
  44. Never Trust a Hippy

    Never Trust a Hippy Newbie

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    I'm thinking of using this at school. Would this be ideal to use at school and be able to fit on a desk?
     
  45. Donald@Paladin44

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    What size is the desk? :)
     
  46. GregW

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    Were at 9.5% here in Seattle. And we can't even use Amazon since they are from here we get Taxed. I had to settle for a Newegg X1.
    The good news from Seattle ( NO INCOME TAX! ) :D
     
  47. GregW

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    Tonights battery test result was 2:15 in Power4gear Quiet office.
    I was expecting over 3 hours. Maybe Battery Saving will be better.
    I have 3 tests to go and then I will retry 3 of them to verify the results.
    Remember gamers and video editors this is surfing. ;)
     
  48. brochiller

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    Haha, yeah we are all obsessed with temps here. So hopefully we'll have some numbers soon enough. :)

    And that is really great info on those battery times ally, that's really helpful to everybody here. Less testing I have to do when I get mine, I'll just be stealing you're info to determine which mode to use when I'm on battery. :D
     
  49. Jgoble25

    Jgoble25 Notebook Geek

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    What software are you guys using to get the temps from??
     
  50. ConsumerIsKing

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    That means ... Two N61JQ-A1s may not have same internal hardware in terms of hardware make. Obviously different makes have different quality and performance :D
     
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