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    ASUS ROG Zephyrus GX501 Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'ASUS Reviews and Owners' Lounges' started by HamzimusPrime, May 20, 2017.

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    Why not let Microcenter fit their memory recommendation at the best price with install?

    You aren't getting faster memory - replacing all of it - so Microcenter's experience in mating their memory stock in compatible sets would be worth asking.
     
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    8GB is soldered on the motherboard and there's only 1 RAM slot, so no installing pairs.

     
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    I think he's saying I should have micro center pick a compatible stick...

    @hmscott
    What do I do with the leftover pcie ssd and 8gb ram stick? My gt80 has all slots full lol. Thought about taking the 16 GB stick from the 83 coming in tomorrow and swapping with the 8gb stick in the zephyrus... :p
     
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    eBay. Or hold them in case you resell it or rma.
     
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    If I RMA do I have to put them back in??? Lol.
     
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    Does anyone have experience with micro center warranties? Is it possible to get extended warranty?
     
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    I would. Most places say they aren't responsible for your personal data or hardware upgrades. If they replace your unit, you risk losing your property.
     
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    Welcome to your first "part's drawer" inventory ;)

    You want to keep them for when you sell the laptop, or RMA it.

    You pull your stuff out, and swap the original parts back in. They get a stock build and a standard used price, and you get your better parts back.

    Buyers usually aren't going to pay a premium for upgraded parts - rarely anyway - I have sold premium parts to motivated buyers, that's why it's important to get the top model, desirable even when used.
     
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    well... I have to sell the 83 to cover the zephyrus....
     
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    any accessories I should get to go with the zephyrus -- any monitor/keyboard/headphone suggestions?
     
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    What does that crazy idea have to do with the original question? :)

    Selling the brand new GT83 to get the Zephyrus would be crazy, to put it plainly.

    You might as well buy a Ford Pinto full of gasoline, and run into it with a German Staff car, while engaged in a machine gun fire fight...
     
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    Come'on man, why are you wasting time asking silly questions like this? What kind of keyboard, monitor or headphones "goes with" a Zephyrus is a ridiculous question in the context of the Zephyrus, it's irrelevant.

    Nothing, get nothing, don't get the Zephyrus, keep what you have, add a 2in1 for long battery life for carrying to class.

    You know your parents aren't going to let you get the Zephyrus, why waste time talking about it? :rolleyes:
     
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    Have the last zephyrus on sale in Houston currently sitting on my desk.
     
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    Wow, it's not Thanksgiving already is it? You bought the "turkey" a bit too early :D :p :confused: :eek: o_O

    Looking forward to your review, and how it holds up for 4 years of college.

    Did you get the memory upgraded? With what/how much?
     
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    yea but I cant take the gt83 to college and I can take the zephyrus....
     
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    Yeah, well, not accounting for taste there were a lot of other options we discussed that were far better for school carry, that thing has no battery life, is flimsy, runs hot and loud under load - mainly for those sitting around you, and likely won't last 4 years.

    But it's advertised as being cool, and reviewed as awesome, so how could you resist? :D
     
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    it only needs to last 2 years (battery lifecycle for most devices ive used is 2 years anyways)
     
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    Nah, it's not gonna last for 2 years, I think it's only good for about 1.5 hours of active use, so you better sit next to a power plug in class. :rolleyes:

    Shoulda got a better desktop gaming solution and a light carry laptop for class, something with 8 hours or more battery life.

    You came up with a number of better choices, what made you decide the right choice for a single solution was the Zehpyrus?
     
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    I would have to carry it to labs and other classes and stuff its not just gonna stay on a desktop
     
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    I think he meant the 1-2 hours of battery life you'll get while at school. I wouldn't recommend anyone get this laptop for that. There are so many practical and inexpensive options for school and I would rather deal with two laptops over plugging in multiple times a day.
     
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    Yeah, well let's take this discussion off-line again, your not answering what I am asking.

    If you need a laptop to carry to class and labs, you need a laptop with long battery life - in most rooms there aren't enough plugs to let 30 people plug in, and they Zephyrus with that tiny battery and 1.5 hour battery life under load isn't a good solution.

    Keeping the GT83 for the desktop solution, or buying / building a desktop gaming rig and buying a long battery life carry laptop / 2in1 would have been a much more considered configuration, focusing on your needs.

    I also suggested waiting till you got to school, as after the first few days / weeks you are going to think about your needs differently.

    You aren't going to have time to game, you are going to want different things - and hopefully realize that all very quickly.

    Anyway, please let us know how you like the GX501 :)
     
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    that's what my surface pro is for. its my second laptop (surface pro 2017 i7, 16gb ram, 500gb ssd)
     
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    You now have 3 expensive laptops? But you just said the GX501 wasn't going to be a stay on the desktop laptop. Why did you get a GX501 if you already had your long battery life carry device?

    And, the GX501 is another expensive gaming laptop, if your parents didn't want your other expensive gaming laptop - the GT83 - to go with you to school, why are they letting you take the GX501?
     
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    b/c its to carry around with the tablet... they won't let me take anything over 9lb with power brick. thus I would be going without the gt80 which I would have to leave at home on a desk and I would only have a tablet for college...
     
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    Why would you carry around 2 laptops to class / labs? A gaming laptop is useless at school, more of a weight and attention burden than any use. You'll end up leaving it in the dorm room most of the time.

    And, at least with the GT83 anyone wanting to steal it is going to have trouble trying to try hide it while they "sneak" it out. The GX501 is small and thin enough to tuck in their waist, and get away easily.

    You've only made the thief's job easier with a thin and light easy to carry booty. :p
     
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    lol I'm gonna use it some then get back to you guys on how I like it. As so far it feels very solid. I have used an MSI gs60 and the gs60 feels much flimsier than the zephyrus.
     
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    Not kidding about the thieving in school, no matter how prestigious the institution it happens.

    I actually had someone steal my clothes out of the washing machine, and later that day saw them wearing them! Others had things stolen from their rooms, even while they were down the hall in a public area. People walk in off the street too making easy steals from innocent unsuspecting students.

    Watch your stuff, and don't count on hiding things from thieves to help, lock it all down and chain it to heavy large objects that won't fit through the door easily.

    I'd go light the first couple of months, and don't flash things around showing them off if you do bring expensive things. It's a different world out there from High School.
     
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    100% agree. I went to a nice college with low crime, but even I knew it two people getting their laptops stolen. One an AW and the other a MacBook pro. Meanwhile nobody touched my Acer Travelmate with a 10 ft stick. :)

    I remember how devistated someone was from getting their brand new first gen iPhone stolen too. She paid full price. Ouch!
     
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    Nah, it does not run loud. Under normal usage (websurfing, office apps) it is inaudible. When gaming it is still quieter than other 17 inch gaming laptops, check notebookcheck.de. I have had a couple of gaming notebooks, the Zephyrus is in fact the quietest so far

    Temps are also no problem.

    Battery life is however a problem, as I see it the only drawback.

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    well the gt83 comes in today. I'm gonna leave it sealed and see what offers I get for it. If too low, I can keep it. if not I will sell it. :p It just doesn't make sense to keep if it stays home and I can use my zephyrus on the go.
     
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    The review videos that walked around the laptop, and one that pushed it up against a wall, showed a marked increase in noise behind and to the side versus straight on - the users view.

    It sounded like the fan noise was being reflected off the two bottom panels - the stationary one and the bottom one when lifted - it was like that angle reflected the sound away from the user and out into the room.

    It could be a problem should the fans spin up while in a Library or Study Hall, anywhere where the ambient sound is less than typical.
     
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    Your selling the gt83?


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    Nah, you gotta test it since you are the only one that can get service for it, you gotta make sure it's all functional before unloading it onto some poor unsuspecting potential buyer.

    Maybe you can get your kid brother (?) to take it ;)
     
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    not true. its a new laptop and as such is unregistered for servicing and warranty is fresh including accidental damage.


    My brother has lofty aspirations and turned down the titan
     
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    Did you check that with MSI? I would expect MSI to tie that new laptop to your old laptop registration, since they are tracking it to qualify for the 2nd Upgrade cycle when Volta comes out. How else will MSI know?

    That's another thing, the new buyer won't get your rights to upgrade to Volta models; the Volta upgrade is not transferable to a 2nd owner.
    Really? What does he want? :)
     
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    Never mind warranty for the 83 doesn't transfer
     
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    He wants the zephyrus now XD
     
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    Don't blame him. *flame on*
     
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    www.notebookcheck.com/Im-Vergleich-Was-man-beim-Asus-Zephyrus-fuer-sein-Geld-bekommt.240394.0.html

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    Good choice indeed

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    When I read this I see the Zephryus as I always have, under performing, overpriced, and super short battery life (44 min under load) - everything in this review re-confirms it.

    The only thing this review didn't see was the 55dba-60dba fan noise of other video reviews early on, and also reported by owners. This review only saw 49dba max. These measurements can vary greatly due to equipment and technique.

    The performance results are about as bad as others have seen for the Zephyrus and account for most of reason for the quieter operation. The other laptops are pushing a lot more power and generating a lot more heat.

    The article has a couple of errors. The "CPU and GPU Clock Council Under Stress" table should have "GPU" as the element in the last line, not "CPU", and the text "* ... smaller values are better" in areas it's not true.

    The Asus G701VI is a beast under max load / performance on OC power, scores, and yet gets the best battery life even though the battery is 93wh vs 99wh for the AW. The Zephyrus is a 50wh which is dismal on battery life, they should have included a iGPU switchable mode of operation for running on battery.
     
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    That's ok, you can offer to handle the warranty work for the life of the laptop to the buyer. It's better if it's a relative or a close friend that you know you will stay in contact with. It's a hassle for you, but doable.

    That's why I originally suggested getting a GT73 instead of a GT83, so you could use it for college.

    Maybe it's not too late? You could call MSI and tell them of your dilemma, your parents now won't let you take it to college because it's too big, and you wonder if you can send it back for a GT73/GT75 1080. I wouldn't unbox it in this case, just turn it around and send it back without opening it.

    It's worth a shot :)
     
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    I have never purchased a gaming laptop for battery use. That's what surface machines or similar are for.

    The temps on my Zeph are great but I always like to repaste at some point or another, Looks like you have to remove Tape around the heatsink?

    I am concerned it will not adhere as good once I pull it up.

    Please refer to Pic, anyone have experience with this tape?
     

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    That was for @mason2smart he wants it to carry around school, and long battery life is important.
    Are you talking about that short stretch of "white goo" under the heatpipe? That's looks like part of the assembly and will move with it, if not you could replace with K5pro goop.

    Are you talking about the wide black tape on the far left holding down the wire under the end of the fan assembly. You could use similar texture black insulting tape. It needs to be heat proof as it's taped to a stretch of the heat-pipe. I think it's just there to hold that wire down from getting free and being pinched when closing the case, so maybe figure another way to affix the wire - or just be careful when closing it.

    The only other tape I see is the little black pieces holding down wires - regular insulating black tape can be used.

    Please be specific :)
     
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    Referring to the black tape at the top of each fan going back to the rear of the laptop.

    I was going to repaste a few weeks ago and removed all screws but appears there are more under that tape I have outlined, so will need to pull that back.
     

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    Ahhh, I thought that was a formed part of a shroud, not added on tape.

    Is there a functional reason for the tape? Is it covering some gap in the fixture to keep in air or heat? What does it look like the tape is there to accomplish?

    You can get adhesive sheets of thin plastic, even flexible like that "tape", you can use the original stuff as a pattern and cut out new pieces.

    Or, if it's not really performing a function other than keeping fingers out of what it is covering - a common function - then you could try to preserve it when removing it but if it doesn't survive, leave it off.

    You mentioned you lifted the "tape" and found more screws, but did you see any other functional reason for the tape?

    Measure the width, hopefully there is a wide enough roll off the shelf you can get:
    https://www.amazon.com/High-Temperature-Tape/b?ie=UTF8&node=256163011
     
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    It appears to help focus the air to the vent? I think that is a great suggestion on pre-cutting new Pieces.

    i will search around and see what I find?

    Thanks.
     
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    I did a quick search on Amazon and added into the previous post:
    https://www.amazon.com/High-Temperature-Tape/b?ie=UTF8&node=256163011

    You may need to "widen" the search :)

    When you find out what works, please let us know. If you can find a way to preserve it by pulling it up and placing it on something it won't stick to, like a Teflon surface.

    You are trying to preserve the adhesive and not have particles stick to it while it's sitting on the side while you work on the laptop. Wax paper and plastic wrap don't work... something like a thick Teflon non-stick sheet to place it on.

    That's what it looked like, forming over the disconnect between parts, either preventing air pressure or heat leakage, or both. Asus should have formed plastic to do that, not tape, but I guess there's not a lot of room in there.

    It might be only the ends are adhesive, doesn't make sense for a sticky tape to be exposed to constant airflow where it will pick up dust particles and eventually clog.

    You may be able to use smaller pieces of tape in specific areas to solve it too. The huge piece might be used to reduce steps in assembly, where 2-4 smaller pieces might do the job, 1 large piece can be done in 1 step.

    Have fun :)
     
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    excellent! Thank you!

    It will be a few weeks before I have time to play with this, but should be a fun project.
     
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