*** ASUS ROG Strix SCAR II GL504GW-DS74 Owner's Lounge ***

Specifications:


Display

15.6" FHD (1920x1080), 144Hz 3ms IPS-Level, 72% NTSC, 100% sRGB, 300 nits, Anti-Glare Wide-Viewing Angle

Video Graphics & Memory

NVIDIA GeForce® RTX 2070 w/ 8GB GDDR6
Processor Support

and
Heat Management

Intel® 8th Generation Core™ i7-8750H 6 Core - 12 Thread Processor, 2.2 GHz (Max Turbo Frequency 4.1 GHz), 9MB Smart Cache

Optional:

Gelid GC Extreme – 8.5 W/mK Thermal Conductivity, Non-Electrically Conductive

Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut – 73.0 W/mK Thermal Conductivity, Electrically Conductive

Fujipoly Extreme Thermal Pad – 11.0 W/mK Thermal Conductivity, Non-Electrically Conductive


Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 bit (Standard),

Optional:

Windows 10 Pro 64 bit

Chipset Mobile Intel HM370 Express Chipset
System Memory (RAM)
16GB DDR4 2666MHz System Memory (1 x 16GB) - 2 Memory Slots

Optional:

Expandable up to 64GB DDR4/2666MHz System Memory

Hard Drive

512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD + 1TB Firecuda Hybrid SSHD


Optional:

Up to 2TB PCIe x4 NVMe M.2 SSD + Up to 2TB 2.5" HDD or 4TB 2.5" SATA III SSD

Optical Drive

None

Optional:

External DVDRW or Blu-Ray Read-Write/8x Super Multi Combo Drive

Card Reader
SD

Video Camera Built-in HD 2.0MP (720p) Web Camera
LAN/WLAN

802.11ac 2*2 +Bluetooth 5.0

Input/Output
1x Headphone-out & Audio-in Combo Jack;
1x RJ45 LAN Jack for LAN insert;
1x HDMI 2.0b
1x mDP 1.4
2x Type A 3.1 (Gen.1);
1x Type C 3.1 (Gen.2);
1x Type A 3.1 (Gen.2)

Audio Built-in speaker (2x 3.5W)
Built-in array microphone
Smart Amp
Keyboard and Touchpad Illuminated Chiclet Keyboard 4-Zone RGB
Battery 4 Cells Battery, 66WHrs
AC Adapter
Output :
19.5 V DC, 11.8 A, 230W
Input :
100 -240 V AC, 50/60 Hz universal

Dimension & Weight
361 x 262 x 26.1 mm (WxDxH), 14.21" x 10.31" x 1.00 ~ 1.03""

5.29 lbs, 2.40 Kg

 

I just picked one of these up from Microcenter for $1700.
https://www.microcenter.com/product...504gw-ds74-156-gaming-laptop-computer---black

Temps seem better than last gen, CPU is at the mid-80s stock. Framerates arn't as high as I was expecting though. Seems to be close to my old 1060 laptop. Anyone else get one yet? What kinda fps are getting?

 

I was looking at this system today at my local MC. Nice for the price. If you are gaming at 1080p, maybe the CPU is the limiting factor?

 

This is on a clean Windows install without any of the ASUS services (aside from the KB lighting and armoury crate), and all the drivers up to date.

I just got some more Windows updates installed (they always trickle in for a couple days for some reason), and it's running a bit faster now, in FH4 at least. Went from mid 60s to low-mid 80s now. I'll try a couple other games and see if they improved as well.

I wish there were more reviews of the RTX laptops to compare with. Also @hodgeMN shoutout from St Paul

 

My friend just got one as well, same model, and is getting basically the same framerates in games as me. So at least that rules out my system. However, we spent a good amount of time comparing game tests on the 1070 Scars to the few 2070 test videos we found, and the 1070 comes out ahead by a fair margin in quite a few of the games. So something is definitely not right. Not sure if it's specific to the new Scars or the 2070/RTX laptops in general. I'd say it's an 'early driver' issue, but I find it hard to believe that would have this big of an impact.

EDIT: Strange development. I've discovered that having the laptop plugged into a TV bumps the performance up to the expected level. Forza Horizon 4 went from 70ish to 120 fps in 1080p but was very stuttery, while in 4k it got a smooth solid 60-70 fps. Star Citizen went from 50-70 to 100-135 fps.

I have no idea why this would be, or why FH4 would have the jitters at 120 fps in 1080p.

EDIT 2: My system, stock, got a firestrike score of 15980, in case anyone was wondering what these were getting.

 

Thanks for the update. I have been seriously tempted by this system at Microcenter....

 

Here's one that might help: https://www.ultrabookreview.com/25079-asus-gl504gw-scar-review/

You should look into the part that compares gaming results with a single stick of ram vs dual-channel RAM. This could explain the poor performance in some titles if yours comes with single channel memory.

 

It does comes with single channel, but so does the 1070 version which it's been pretty comparable to so far, so that doesn't really explain it. Here's the 1070, same CPU and RAM, https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/asus-rog-strix-scar-ii.

Looking at those numbers though, it's crazy how much of a difference dual-channel makes. I'd be curious to see how it'd be different if he had used 2x8 dual channel instead of doubling the RAM capacity. Not exactly an apple to apple comparison.

 

True, but I'm inclined to believe it's the dual-channel part, not the fact that it gets twice the memory. Same results happen with other laptops when adding an extra stick of RAM.

 

I have the GL704GW with the RTX 2070 for three days now, and you are totally right wirh the single channel vs dual. For me the Peeformance difference was huge.

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Received this computer yesterday from Gentech and so far very disappointed. Laptop was supposed to come with some free goodies like Asus gamepad, repaste with liquid metal CPU and GPU, and thermal pads. No gamepad provided and thermals are 90-95c on CPU and 90c on GPU. These temps are with fans on turbo and playing call of duty 4. Also paid for Windows install with no bloatware and candy crush and other bloatware on computer. Lastly the backlight bleed is horrendous and the worst I have seen on a laptop (literally).

At this time I personally believe Gentech didn't do anything to the laptop other than install another stick of ram which I paid for. I have emailed Ken from Gentech and waiting to hear back.

I thought Gentech had a good deal for the free repaste and thermal pads however it was too good to be true. Hoping it can be resolved and will update outcome

 

Those temps are quite high, my GPU never gets anywhere near 90c. Gentech might have a rep on these forums you can contact for help as well

 

Be sure to let @GenTechPC/ @Kevin@GenTechPC know about your issues. Hope everything gets solved soon!

 

Here is a french test about Single/Dual channel on Asus Scar 2 with rtx 2070:
https://www.lesnumeriques.com/ordin...bile-performances-dependantes-ram-n84095.html

 

Asus laptops runs hotter than MSI even after repasting, please contact us at [email protected] and ask for Ken and he will take care of you, thank you.

 

Thanks for responding. I did talk to Ken and the laptop was sent back to Gentech and being delivered today via UPS. He advised me that a repaste/thermal pads will be re-done with conductanot and he will email screenshot of temps to confirm. Also will be sending me missing items in same box as laptop. I will post update upon receipt of the laptop coming back to me.

 

Just out of curiosity, can someone dig around in your BIOS and see if there's an option to disable Optimus? That seems to be whats causing the lower performance in alot of the RTX models. I would check, but I returned mine already.

 

Hello!

Can someone provide the thickness of thermal pads to use instead of the ****ty thermal paste on other units than cpu and gpu?

 

It's a hardware design therefore it cannot be disabled. It can be skipped if you use an external monitor via DP output.

https://www.amazon.com/Arctic-FSU010110-Efficient-Conductivity-Handling/dp/B00UYTT3I2
0.5mm, and cut to your needs.

 

If it had Gsync I would jump on board, no Gsync no deal.
From the reviews I’ve seen it runs pretty loud and has very loud fans when gaming, to the people that actually have this laptop find the same temps and fans noise?
The MC deal looks pretty good though.

 

I just got mine yesterday at Microcenter, hell of a deal! This is my first gaming laptop ever, I was previously a MacBook Pro kinda guy for laptops but Apple pushed me over the edge with their pricing this time around. I'm used to building my own massive gaming desktops (still do) so this is just for fun and travel. I love it so far, although I am curious if the temps & fan noise are normal for something like this. The CPU hits 95*C and the GPU 78*C while gaming. The machine absolutely rips and it has not shown any signs of stuttering or lagging while gaming. Build quality is outstanding too!

 

As promised I am following up with my outcome with this computer purchase from Gentech. Received my computer back from Gentech on 3/8. Ken was pleasant to work with and computer was shipped back after a re-paste. Temperature dropped to 87C on CPU which is a 5C plus improvement vs when I initially received it. The GPU stays cooler than the CPU. Included in the return package was the gamepad (free with purchase) that wasn't shipped initially with the computer. Also I was provided the code for a Nvidia game which I picked Battlefield 5. I played the original battlefield 1942 and battlefield 1 and realize I am not as good as I thought at battlefield lol. Back to the computer it is a big improvement vs my prior laptop with a 6700hq and GTX 1060. Some quick scores to share are an overall 7500 score in timespy and 19,700 GPU score in firestrike. In superposition i score 80 FPS running 1080p high test. When all is said and done; I am pleased with the computer as it is now. While I am happy with Gentech doing their best to resolve my issues; I am left wondering if I would have had the same experience with Xotic PC or Hidevolution. If anyone has any questions on this laptop I will do my best to answer.

 

Every reseller has problems at some point. While you may not have had an issue if you used Xotic or HID instead, someone has had an issue with them at some point. You just drew the short straw at Gentech.

 

I am wondering if it's worth going from the GL504GS to the GL504GW?

 

Here i am, new owner of this baby

 

Good night friends.
I bought a model like that.
I'm having a problem.
After formatting I could not install all the drivers and some programs like ArmouryCrate.
Windows HOME

 

Some of the programs are on the Microsoft store. In order for ArmoryCrate to work I believe you need to install the auraservice driver first. What issues are you having exactly?

 

Anybody know what thickness thermal pads to use for these? I know ASUS just slathers paste on everything, but if repasting with Kryonaut anyway, might as well fix that.

 

Those are about the same framerates I'm seeing and I'm running dual channel 32 as well. I was also getting temps between 90 and 95 celcius as well and constantly throttling. I was able to address the temps with an application of liquid metal and now I never have throttling issues and rarely go over 83 or so.

But I'm still disappointed with the performance of this laptop. It seems to be pretty under powered for a full 2070. My Alienware 51m with a 2060 is performing as well or better in a lot of games.

 

It's due to the hybrid graphics configuration. For some reason the RTX chips arn't playing well with it. My Clevo has the full 2070 and switchable hybrid/dedicated modes, and in hybrid mode it got similar performance to the GL504GW I had tried. Performance in the dedicated mode is about 20-30% better depending on the game. You can test this by plugging yours into an external monitor, since the HDMI is routed to the dGPU.

 

I'll give it a try. Is there any way to disable optimus and just use the 2070 full time that anyone knows?

 

Not on the SCAR II. Optimus and G-Sync are mutually exclusive unless a switch is used in the hardware design. So short of just using it with a monitor/tv, your stuck with hybrid.

 

Are there any cooling difference between 15" and 17" models?

 

Finally i ve bought this model.

First of all i would ask: how can i change the colors of keyboard and asus logo?
I cannot see any keboard program!!
Is this option in Armorycrate?

 

It is, but the option always disappears after the first reboot, so you have to download the old app from the Microsoft store.

 

For the model GL704GW already exited the bios 305. While the GL504GW is still in the 300

 

I am new owner of GL504GW. And repasted CPU with conductonaut and GPU with kryonaut.
Undervolted CPU core and cache.
Spent the whole day yesterday optimizing the GPU Voltage-Frequency curve in MSI afterburner.

After all these optimizations, I must say the time and effort were well spent.
The performance and temperatures are really good.

Timespy 7722 score (Graphics:7916 CPU:6785) https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/36676024

CPU sits at 79 deg Celcius
GPU sits at 79 deg celcius
At an ambient temperature of 41+ deg Celcius


Also, I got a White Carbon skin from ALIexpress and I must say it looks DAMN SEXY!! ( https://photos.app.goo.gl/YE2yYmk629hQfz6f8 )

Also, I spent a whole day tweaking the GPU voltage curve. So if you want it, I can share it with you. However it might not be stable on your GPU even though it is on mine.

 

So their is no MUX(multiplexor switch) on the Asus scar. That means we cannot use the dGPU directly with the built in LCD. For a gaming laptop and one that is 2k dollars isnt that mandatory gaming necessities?

I know for a fact that the new Legion Y740s and even the older models have a mux switch for added performance from running the dGPU directly to the built in LCD.

 

Yes, there is no MUX.
However, only a very small percentage of laptops offer that. I don't think price matters here because even $3k laptops don't have it. This laptop still offers a much profound bang for your buck and I think you will get it for even cheaper now as Scar 3 is already out(I still think scar 2 is better due to smaller and lighter footprint).

 

ty for your response. The MUX switch is important to me. For those that dont know, when using gaming laptops like this Asus Scar here, since its using optimus the laptop is forced to use the iGPU to power the LCD instead of the display being powered directly through the dedicated GPU. So if you had a MUX switch option in the bios which is hardware that can switch the motherboard to power the display directly from the dGPU like i said;

here is a better explanation if anyone is interested.

I havent been reserching laptops for some time so I was unaware of this but to me looking from an outsiders stand point I think given the opportunity to have no MUX or to MUX i would mux rather have it.

Also, here is a thread that lists laptops that have MUX switches. LINK

Here is another interesting read about it. Link

 

Yeah. About 10-12% raw performance drop when using iGPU, but alas, what can we do. We gotta take what we can.

 

So I was talking to Xotic PC, and they say the Scar 3 has an option in the software to change it.

 

Hi guys, I bought my gl504gw and it stutters when I am playing games like Witcher 3 and BF1. Does anyone have the same problem?

 

Nope. Check the CPU/GPU temps. It's most probably the CPU that throttles heavily

 

I'm trying to play Jedi Fallen order and put on MSI Afterburner to check my temps and my GPU is at 86c pretty fast then throttling. Can someone share with me their CPU and GPU undervolt settings? I've already done a repaste on the CPU and GPU.

 

Input/Output
1x Headphone-out & Audio-in Combo Jack;
1x RJ45 LAN Jack for LAN insert;
1x HDMI 2.0b
1x mDP 1.4
2x Type A 3.1 (Gen.1);
1x Type C 3.1 (Gen.2);
1x Type A 3.1 (Gen.2)

The specs you have listed include 1x mDP 1.4, but I've seen 1.2 and 1.4 listed in different places for the same model. Can anyone confirm it is mDP 1.4?