ASUS G74SX Owners' Lounge

Interesting. Is there a way to play with the equalizer in THX TruStudio?

 

No, it's a pretty dumb program if you ask me.. all you can do with it is raise or lower the overall volume.

It also comes with a program called alchemy, which is under the same creative folder. "Creative alchemy restores hardware accelerated audio so that you can enjoy EAX effects and 3D audio when playing directsound 3D games in microsoft."

 

I personally like the THX deal turned off... it's entirely too low in the midrange. I prefer how my music sounds without it. In fact, I'm more pleased with the speakers now that it's off.

 

Thanks very much for that confirmation - that's exactly what I was hoping to hear. If the Windows beta driver works, it will eventually roll down to the Linux driver.

Now I just have to decide whether to grab the A1 now, or wait for the 3DE. I don't need the 3D, but I want to get the matte screen and from what I'm reading here the 3DE version is much better than the matte upgrade available for the A1. Ahhhhh.... decisions, decisions.

Anyway, thanks again for the info.

 

Thought i'd give it a try and i'm getting a lot of feedback/vibration noises when I turn it off, especially during high pitched notes. The speakers aren't a big deal for me, earphones/buds/external speakers are ez remedies.

 

Weird! I'm not having any trouble with sound after I turned it off. But then again, my music is more towards the lower end, with it mainly being rock, techno and punk music. They don't often reach clean highs. lol

 

Do you have the glare non 3D or the matte 3D screen?

 

Hi

I've had my G74sx 3DE (i believe...its matt screen, but only 8gb ram 1 and 2x500 momentus) a couple of days now.

no OC or benchmarking -guy, never cared about it, until now

haven't got the newest games yet, so fired up stock Crysis warhead expecting it to manage "Gamer" level at 1920*1080 at 30+ fps with no AA/v-sync. Sorry to say - it didnt, only with "max power" (through this ROG -button) it manages i would say around 25 average, going down to 20 when everything hits the fan.

i do manage 30+ fps with "mainstream" on it.
I've got the latest 270.50 drivers, and its the 3gb vram card.

should i expect more from this one? or is the bottlenect the RAM or maybe non-update Warhead -patches?

regards

 

Part of the reason is the high resolution. Running native 1080 resolution would slow anything down considerably. If you can scale it back, it would help. Unfortunately for Crysis 2, the lower resolution is terrible, so I play mine in 1080. Check your resolution settings and see if there's a better option.

Overclocking is always an option too. It's said to help in other games, such as Bad Company 2.

 

There is a new test from a German web site, translated in English here:

Google Übersetzer

Their glare model has a better screen than the matte 3D version, with contrast of 950:1 and maximum brightness of 270cd/m².

I want this one!! The 3D display doesn't have as good black levels!!!

I asked on the web site what the panel ID is. Wondering if this is the AUO or the SEC!!!!!!!!!!!

 

What it looks like to me, is some G74's have nicer panels than others... am I right? If so, is it just a matter of luck on which one you get, or is there a choice somehow? I know I had a choice to upgrade my screen when I was first buying my G74, but they were 200 - 300 bucks more. Is that how you get the other, "nicer" screens?

 

If I could afford it I would get the anti glare LG screen xoticpc and gentech offer. Has anyone got that anti glare LG ? How is it in person?

 

The German test is based on a stock model without reseller upgrade. So far 3 different panels have beenr reported. AUO as the glare type, LG as the 3D type and an SEC from Samsung, unspecified by the poster unfortunately.

 

Do you have glare or non glare 3D? Could you specify the exact model number?
G74-xxxxx

Was the BB model you saw 3D? I assume so because only the 3D display should be an LG.

Also can you post your impressions on the screen!

Thanks

 

I don't think that the CMO1726 is the one listed on their web page. I think the CMO1726 is the one with 1000:1 contrast ratio tested on the German web site, as the Samsung panel has been test on Dell computers as inferior (poor contrast and grey blacks).

Check this post here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...asus-g73sw-owners-lounge-168.html#post7672374

 

mine is the glossy screen g74sx-bbk7 is the model

the bb model specs where the same but when i checked the hardware ID it started with LG

impressions .....well i have to keep adjusting the screen one moment i have it set and looks great another it looks washed out on the bottom half. so far i have had two of these with same lcd and same issue so i figured why bother chances are ill probably get one again the same so ill just deal with it

 

But you said it was a Samsung before (SEC). Which is it? Was the BB model a 3D matte model? If you order the 3D model you will have a good screen.

The samsung is not the best based on reviews for some of the Dell XPS 17 laptops.

Toxic has got a glare Panel from CMO and it is better, his model is the G74sx-A1 and he ordered from xoticpc. He seems to have the 1000:1 contrast screen from CMO. I am currently checking with the German testers what their screen model is.

The Asus model number (G74SX-TZ024V) is Germany only, though, so it wouldn't help you. I have just ordered that exact same model to be sure, as I live in Germany!!

 

Could more of you with the glare panel check what the Hardware ID is and also tell us what model you have and where you purchased?

So far only one person has got the Samsung SEC screen.

 

isnt the sec a samsung? cause both models i got had that screen. best buy had one on display and it was LG but all the specs where the same and it was not a 3d model as i asked and he said the just took this out of the box and put it on display.

 

Toxic, for your model there was a choice of 3 different screens!

Which did you choose? That one?

I chatted with their sales and the exotic screens are as follows:
- Asus Stock Glare: N173HGE-L21 rev C01 (same as on the German test website, so should be 1000:1 contrast)
- Matte 70% NTSC Color Gamut: AUO b173hw01 v4 (manufacturer lists a contrast of 600:1)
- Glare 90% NTSC Color Gamut (1920x1080): AUO b173hw01 v5

 

oh well i have a 20 inc lcd i can always hook up to it I was on a budget and got the best buy model.. so far performace wise i can run crysis 2 on dx 11 and high res texture pack on and settings set to extreme and get a solid 30-38 fps. BF badcompany 2 i get 40fps rift online i get 30fps withcer 2 i get 30 fps. so far not bad and ill just deal with it. One question is it possible to get a lcd for this and install it myself? if so where can i get them at ? thanks btw puremind

 

Haha, this is crazy, so now it looks like there are 4 displays:
- 3D LGD02C5
- Non 3D Glare LGDxxxx
- Non 33 Glare SEC544B
- Non 3D Glare CMO1726

How did the model you saw at BB behave? Was the screen better than yours

 

I could be wrong but I think providers like Xoticpc install different LCD's themselves before they ship.

It is not too complicated but on spme laptops you would need to remove the protective gums that hide the screws...

 

kinda hard to tell since it was so damn bright there but i honestly saw no differ seemed the same as far as color and brightness ext. so that is why im not really tripping about the display and just learn to deal with it. Like i said i have a really nice 20inc LG monitor i can always hook up to it

 

Are you absolutely positive it was an LG? Coudl someone in the US check that at Best Buy?

They are renowned to have lesser screens at BB

 

Is it 110% confirmed the BB model is the gimped 560m with 128bit memory bus? Anyone got a GPUz screen of it?

 

yes it is 110% confirmed. but i think its running great with my current high end games

 

Glad to hear, got any benchies of the 128mbit version so we can compare? Maybe the difference isn't that great and for the savings makes it worth while. Imagine its only a 10-15% difference or something its not such a deal breaker then.

 

I went with the stock Asus glare. Didn't elect to pay 200+ for a screen. lol

 

That lower resolution screen sounds like it's a big difference. Unfortunately, the resolution on Crysis 2 that isn't full native is some terrible 1330 resolution or something, makes everything look horrid. I wish they would opt for a 1600 setting or something. I turned off the AA and some other small tweaks, and it seems to have really helped with perfomance. I also OC'd the gpu with MSI afterburner.

At such a high resolution, I don't see the point in Anti-Aliasing. It's already crisp as is. I can run most settings on High and Very high with a couple on ultra here and there, and get more than usable framerates in Crysis 2.

 

sure ill post my 3dmark vantage score im doing it now. i mean yeah you get a gimped 560m gtx, resolution only1600 x 900, no blue ray, but i mean hell it does the job good. Mind you im coming from a custom built desktop i had that was a intel core duo e7400 evga 9800gtx+ and 4gb of ram so this is huge upgrad efor me

 

Yeah, I have just noticed you can't max Crysis 2 out on the 3gb 560 versions. And maybe it's a problem with the driver or something... who knows. But I'll take it as is... still is a monster rig. haha

 

ok my 3d vantage score on the G74SX-BBK7(best buy) is P8871
gpu score is 7604 / cpu 18015

 

it's an even bigger upgrade for me.
my last computer was a packardbell featurering cure duo T2500, amd mobility radeon x1600 and 2 gig ram.

got another question; the gpu's power is always constant, unless u OC it.

but, when using this ROG -button, u turbo the cpu and the increase in fps and performance is very recognizable.
but i thought that the cpu initiated the boost itself?

sorry for these newbie -questions, but as stated above - long time since i had a decent computer.

 

Great choice...The other two may have larger gamut (I will confirm gamut tomorrow on my new Asus as I will have same screen as you), but lower contrast is a deal breaker for me.

 

For sure. I'm glad it turned out that way. Cuz I was unsure how screwed I'd be by getting the stock screen. Looks like I lucked out. lol

That's one thing I have noticed is the whites look bright and the darks look deep. It's a very nice screen if you ask my personal opinion.

 

Thats the white balance and gamma for you. Another, unrelated topic is gamut. Are colors saturated? Is yellow deep yellow instead of pastel? is red really blood red instead of orange or pinkish?

 

I would say the yellows and reds are rich, rather than a pastel-ish color. Very saturated.

 

So the screens Gentech and Xotic offer have better color (gamut) but less brightness and contrast? Sounds like I'm better to stick to the stock screen. The gentech dea of $1570 usd with all stock and the drives removed + dvd player down graded is a good deal I think for a G74sx-A1.

Besides I have a blu-ray x6 burner and ssd and harddrive to use. Only recently got my g53sw but if i can sell it without loosing much i'll get a g74 (Should have in the first place) Its not like I'm going to travel with this heavy 15" so should have gone for the 17" - silly me couldn't wait.

Anyone here got a g53sw and g74 that could compair screens. My auo 15.6 is quite nice (brightness and contrast) apart from poor view angles.

 

Hello all, I've been reading the G74's topics, and I’m trying to make a decision here... Basically I have two options:

*G73SW-XN1/2 (Newegg Model)
*G74SX-BBK7 (Best buy)

I read that the scores of the GTX560m are like 10-15% compared to the GTX460m, but what about 460m(192bit 1.5GB) vs 560m(128bit 2GB) ? Is the difference too big?? I checked neggie’s 3d vantage scores and they are close to the 460m. I’m planning to get an SSD later so I think the big difference will be the 128bit vs 192bit GPU, Performance in games like BFC2, Dead Space 2, GTAIV, Team Fortress 2, COD:BKOPS are going to be the same?
What do you think?

 

In Germany, the G74 has a graphic card with 3GB...

 

None of you should complain about the price, at least not those who come from USA. Hehe. Cause here in Denmark the prices are much higher. I must pay 2.153,66 dollars for mine g74. With the specs looking like this:

17,3 " - 1920 x 1080
I7 2630qm - 2ghz
8gb ram
750 gb, 7200 rpm
Blu-ray/DVD combo
GTX 560M 3gb

However, one question: As I understand it, if you get the Asus stock glare screen, you will get the same screen type as the one on the german site, with 1000:1 contrast?

 

Alright, I ordered mine yesterday and got it today. I did the measurements:

The contrast is excellent, measured at 1061:1:



Color saturation is also well balance, covering extremly close to 100% of NTSC:


Note that these are the measures before calibration. I will see if I can improve gamma and grey balance a bit without loosing too much contrast, as color temperature is a bit too cold.

 

Awesome! That's the same screen that I have, correct? The CMO?

 

Yes, that's the CMO1726. It is the standard glare display for the Asus G74, unless you purchase by Best Buy, who have an inferior display

 

Great! I kind of like my color temperature a tad on the cold side. My old laptop was very warm, and it seems like cool seems to be a bit easier on my eyes. What do you think of the speakers? And are you impressed with the gaming performance so far?

 

I only play guild wars, any graphic card can play it, so can't say much about gaming performance. I just need something that will play Guild Wars 2, and I think that will do it.

The speakers are between ok and good. But then I am coming from a Vaio computer with sound comparable to the Dell XPS 15 JBL sound, which is the absolute reference at the moment...So I had high expectations.

The sound is not as detailed as on my Vaio, but it is is not ridiculous either. Because the screen is better, i think I am going to keep the laptop.

 

Yeah, I came from a Gateway P7809u, so the speakers on this are a huge improvement.

Yeah, I overclocked my gpu a bit and can now run Crysis 2 on useable framerates on whatever the second highest rating is called. Love this thing. I can play Bad Company 2 on full graphics too... can't wait to see how it handles Battlefield 3. That game looks boss.

 

good info here guys. Listen do you think if i overclock my GPU to 800 (775) default if that would be ok and not give issues? I have the BB version. so just woundering. Also im new to Win7 any tweaks you all have done to the OS that helps or improvees performace?

 

I'm running the G74sx with the 3gb 560m and I run mine overclocked at roughly 900/1840/1460 and don't reach temperatures over 70c. It's enabled me to play Crysis 2 at the second highest settings on acceptable framerates.

The only problem is that I'm on a 3gb and you're on a 2gb card... so I'm not real sure what you can run stable.