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    question on the mac boot-up between windows -OSX speed

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by justbrake, Mar 2, 2009.

  1. justbrake

    justbrake Notebook Evangelist

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    I purchased a used macbook pro 2.6 a couple of weeks ago from ebay and it had a screen problem, IMO> anyway I sent it back and got a refund, I just purchased a NEW 2.66 MHz and I'm expecting it at the end of the week, I was impressed how the first mac booted up so fast with OSX so my question is if I had windows XP dual booting would it boot to the windows as fast as it did with the OSX or will the anti-virus slow it down ? or will it be about the same, just wondering

    Thanks!
     
  2. ltcommander_data

    ltcommander_data Notebook Deity

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    A MacBook Pro would boot Windows as fast as any other notebook running Windows with the same hardware. OS X boots fast because Apple spent quite a bit of effort in optimizing the boot process in 10.4 Tiger. Previous to 10.4, OS X used various startup daemons hailing from it's UNIX heritage. For 10.4, Apple wrote a brand new launchd daemon (actual name not a typo) that is increasing parallel by having fewer dependencies, meaning that in the case of the boot process, many tasks can start up at the same time if they aren't related instead of waiting in a line. Some tasks were also deferred to after boot or when they are first used. This greatly enhances OS X's boot time. launchd has been made open source to give back to the UNIX community.

    OS X boot time is largely a product of it's design and programming rather than the hardware so a MacBook Pro wouldn't automatically boot Windows faster. The booting process in Vista was supposed to have been redesigned to be faster than XP, although I'm not sure how well that went. One of the goals with Windows 7 is to boot faster than Vista.

    And in the end, yes antivirus software is a major killer of boot performance regardless. Booting is also highly I/O dependent meaning a fast hard drive or better yet an SSD would be more beneficial than raw CPU speed or RAM.
     
  3. tayb

    tayb Notebook Consultant

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    XP will not boot as fast as OS X will on the same machine. Windows 7 boots faster than XP but it is still 10 seconds slower on my MBP.
     
  4. justbrake

    justbrake Notebook Evangelist

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    I appreciate the answers but I should have known that windows would boot slower as said the Hardware is no difference then any other notebooks, I had windows 7 installed on a vaio notebook and had problems with it so for 10 sec. thats out I'm just trying to figure which is the best way to run both OS do I go boot camp or parallels ? I've read up on the boot camp but not so much on the parallels but I've seen a youtube about parallels but havn't watched it yet,

    what do most use on a macbook to run both OS ? ?? ???

    My notebook will be here thurs-friday :) I'd still have to buy a full windows OS to run since my others are taken up with other computers.

    Thanks in advance!
     
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  5. tayb

    tayb Notebook Consultant

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    Boot Camp requires you to restart your computer, hold down the option key, and select Windows to boot. Parallels or VMWare Fusion (my preference) will let you run the Windows OS within OS X so you do not have to reboot.

    Can't make a suggestion unless I know what programs you are running but as a general rule of thumb anything graphically intensive or processor intensive should be done in Boot Camp.

    My preference is to use both. When I want to play games or other heavy programs I will boot camp into Windows 7 but when I am just using Office Enterprise, JCreator, or SPIM I will start VMWare and run Windows 7 within OS X.

    I wouldn't buy a full Windows OS. The Windows 7 beta is free for download and is good for 6 months from the date of activation. I purchased a copy of Vista Ultimate for $6 at my computer store.
     
  6. justbrake

    justbrake Notebook Evangelist

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    I like your set-up "sounds good"



    3 operating systems with-in a dual boot, sounds really good !

    my son goes to a community college I'll ask him if he could get the discount.


    Thanks!
     
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  7. Seshan

    Seshan Rawrrr!

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    It's not 3 OS's, You can use VMware(or parallels) to read the bootcamp partition, so you only install windows once. It's nice if you want to grab a file from the bootcamp partition, you just boot up VMware and grab it.
     
  8. doh123

    doh123 Without ME its just AWESO

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    you can do a triple boot though if you want native real boot in to an OS and not just virtual machines. I have mine triple booted with OSX, Linux, and Vista64
     
  9. justbrake

    justbrake Notebook Evangelist

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    I have the PDF of boot camp ready to read fom apple and I have the youtube video for the VMware,

    I need to know whats the best software for the Vmware they seem to have a couple of softwares manufactures
    1- VMWARE FUSION 2
    2- Smith Micro Vmware Fusion v.2.0

    also I don't think i'm going to go with windows 7 because when the six months are up you have to purchase the full version

    I'll ask my son thats in a community college if he can get the discount on windows if not I'll probably just get an OEM off ebay

    Thanks Again
     
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