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    macbook pro and heating issue

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by Jitto, Sep 16, 2010.

  1. Jitto

    Jitto Notebook Consultant

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    Hey guys,

    did anyone's recently purchased macbook pro have any heating issues?
     
  2. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    Only when gaming, and you can get the fans to run faster by using a program called smcFanControl

    Or are you talking about in Windows?
     
  3. akin_t

    akin_t Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't get these kind of threads. Just ask what it is you're really curious about.

    Heating issues, by definition is when the computer stops functioning properly due to excessive heat ... This is not going to happen to any laptop made in the past 5 years, it's a science that engineers have gotten right.

    Now if you're worried about laptops getting hot and all that jazz, well that's just subjective depending on comfort level and as a result not worth even talking about ... Some will say "Mine is hot" some will say "Mine is cool" ... At the same load, they all run at the same nominal temperature (with a tolerance of course)
     
  4. Akari

    Akari Notebook Evangelist

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    That's... not really true at all. A lot of laptops have extreme heating problems that will cause them to shut down completely or bog down performance.

    Macbook Pros do get very hot, mainly due to the metal case.
     
  5. ClearSkies

    ClearSkies Well no, I'm still here..

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    Not again.

    The MB aluminum series chassis gets *warm* on high stress use because it is *designed* to function as part of the heatsink process. When doing video encoding, compling or something similar to peg the CPU, perhaps a bit more but never to the point that many folks in the general population would term it "very hot," which is generally accepted as painful to the touch.

    While one can debate the merits of Apple engineers choosing to use this approach of a chassis heatsink (and please, let's not devolve into that here), that is the basis for the ongoing, pointless chassis temperature issue. It is a rare report, indeed, of a MBP shutting down due to heat issues, and those are mostly due to internal cooling component failure.
     
  6. Jitto

    Jitto Notebook Consultant

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    hey guys, sorry for not directing the issue with more detail. Like for instance, I usually run my laptop all day and my current toshiba laptop has lasted for 3 years. But now I am planning on whether to move to the lighter side. The heating issues im referring to are the following

    1) Does the temperature increase drastically when on idle for more than 4 hours?

    2) Does running bootcamp or parallels (i.e. running windows) increase the temp?

    3) How high does the temp get when playing games?

    Im trying to compare the heat factor between Hp Envy 17 and Macbook pro, and am clueless about the heating issue on the mac
     
  7. ClearSkies

    ClearSkies Well no, I'm still here..

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    1. no, temp stays mostly steady but may increase slightly depending on ambient temp.

    2. slightly, as the cpu power management isn't as aggressive in BC compared to native OS X which downclocks the cpu further and reduces the chip thermal output.

    3. 80-90s internal temp at the sensor point of attachment, depending on cpu/gpu load. This is managed by fan rpm that will then jump into the 5k range, and comes down to nominal 50s or below within 2 min of going back to idle.

    The Envy is going to get a lot warmer in comparison, as its internal components have much higher thermal output than the MBP's.
     
  8. Jitto

    Jitto Notebook Consultant

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    thanks for the replies guys, and Thanks for the detailed reply clearskies.

    Out of curiosity, what is the average life span of a mac book pro? or atleast how many years have you guys been using it for?
     
  9. ClearSkies

    ClearSkies Well no, I'm still here..

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    Until it dies or the new tech gets too far along and you can't live without something new.

    Plenty of people have 4-5 year variations of MB models that still work fine, except for some problems with the 8600gt gpu failures in the older MBPs.
     
  10. Jitto

    Jitto Notebook Consultant

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    thanks for that reply clearskieS. One last thing, how long is the battery life in terms of idle time?
     
  11. Jitto

    Jitto Notebook Consultant

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    thanks for clearing my doubts
     
  12. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

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    Idle is about 9 hours, with the screen at about 20-30% brightness. However, for light internet browsing this drops to about 8 hours.
     
  13. Jitto

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    thanks for the reply bog,
     
  14. DJRiful

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    Hi guys, I'll be getting the Macbook soon but just curious about this smcFanControl exists because the default fan RPM isn't running at the max when needed?
     
  15. doh123

    doh123 Without ME its just AWESO

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    nah.. it runs... but some of us like keeping the machines cooler. Its not very aggressive in cooling, usually assuming (I guess) that most of the heat is a spike and it will cool back down... in my opinion it usually waits too long and too high of temps before spinning up, but what is really "too hot" ????

    I just like manually controlling mine and spinning it up fast if I know I'm getting ready to tax it and its going to need it. its a lot cheaper to replace a fan than a whole computer, and I'd rather the thing still be running 10 years from now :) Apple goes for low fan for noise and power reasons, but if it finally realizes it really needs it fast, it will do so... but Apple doesn't rally care if your machine runs for 10 to 15 years, cuz if it dies in 7 or 8 years they are more likely to get more money from ya :) I'm not saying Apple is the only company with that thought, pretty much every consumer tech company works the same way... style, design, and major selling points over longevity... because thats not something many people think about.
     
  16. tommyxv

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    Depends on the model (quarter released) MB/MBP you have.

    I have a late-2008 MBP and I get right around 4 hours of decent use (WiFi On, FF with 12 tabs, Brightness@5/15, Adium). In terms of 'idle' times, the machine goes to sleep and lasts a pretty long time (I've put my machine to sleep on a Friday and it still had charge left for an hour of work Sunday afternoon).
     
  18. Jitto

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    thanks rocketmac....
     
  19. doh123

    doh123 Without ME its just AWESO

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    late 2008 was right before the big battery change. I have late 2008 15" MBP that gets maybe 2 to 4 hours normally. my 2010 13" though gets around 6 to 9 hours normally.
     
  20. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    My mid 2009 Macbook Pro 17 gets 6 hours surfing the net, but it has the 95 Watt hour battery.
     
  21. Jitto

    Jitto Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for the replies again guys

    Hey j0KER, is the 95 watt hour battery default in the macbook pro 17 or did u have to purchase it seperately?
     
  22. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    Ya, 95 watt hour is the default battery.
     
  23. Jitto

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    cheers thanks
     
  24. PEEGGY

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    I got 13 p8800 macbook pro and it stays cool most of the time, e.g. parallels apps... I've played 12 movies simultaneously and it started to get warm, movie encoding makes it run hot, and yes it can get very hot under stress.One strange thing I experience is running hot while surfing with safari can be for ad blocker plugin? sometimes safari runs cool. sometimes crazy hot, makes me wonder!
     
  25. sulkorp

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    It's flash that makes it get hot. Flash is notoriously for eating cpu and battery. One of the reasons it is on few phones right now, is that it would kill the battery if they supported it.
     
  26. Jitto

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    Thanks for the info guys