jobs leaving

what's everyone's take?

for myself i can only say that this time jobs had left the company with tremendous prospect to allow the company to stay afloat even under storm; all the execs, even to assume that they cannot do anything, apple will still perform moderately well since the ship had changed to a better course.

the uncertainties about his health without disclosure scares me a little though, from investor's point of view this is almost like a flashing break light to go further; and even more so looking at apple's track record. -_-'

let's hope we will see something better later, not only from apple, but from everyone else!

get well though, apple's share will fall further if anything happen to you; the irrationality of stock price to rely on a person is apparent but this is what happening. in some sense jobs's health is a trade secret to apple's investment

 

YAAAYYYYY!!!! but it isn't true...

 

I think apple can do better w/o him...

 

Will the fruit punch still be available?

 

I thought it was koolaid.

 

oh yes, linux is in line for the next mass purchase of apple after M$ did

jobs is definitely a tyrant(either agree or not, please don't throw this into flame) and without him, the chrome of apple is in risk of being rust (or matte )

without digging through internet, who here knows cook before this date (fanboy who know everyone's and their parents' name aside) anyways?

my next question is what will apple do? will they enjoy the ride? or become a radical?
seeing how the economy collapses these days it gives me a feeling of RIM and google will try to be a little more aggressive even.

 

I think just as he said, he will take a break for 6 months, he is still the CEO, that is all, no big deal.

 

I don't think it will have any major impacts on anybody but the stock market which will crash the price of AAPL because of it (coincidentally, I think its a great time to buy AAPL just as the price drops). Apple is in a very solid financial situation, with over $25 billion in the bank, Steve Jobs has not run off to a deserted island, he still knows what's going on at Apple and when it comes time to make big decisions he will always have a say.

Tim Cook, Peter Oppenheimer, Phil Schiller and Jony Ive know what they're doing.

 

Thank god and good riddence - now i will look forward to All Apple computers with Blu Ray.

I cant belive this one guy deprived us all of MacBook Pro with Blu Ray.

That guy is like the cancer in Apple's Body. They must be glad it's an opportunity for Apple to go forward and take over the world like they should have done a long time ago.

 

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Wow that's way harsh... esp given Jobs cancer history and his current bad health.
He is just one guy who has done some great stuff and not such great stuff. Apple is not SJ, and although he has a huge influence I think that its not as big as people/the media make it out to be. Its just that he is a really really good speaker and can whip up a storm with a simple keynote presentation.
Think of him as the ultimate booth babe for apple !
Is he essential? no but he sure has a great rack and arse.
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don't forget steve is one of the best ceos ever...he is one of the most successful men in the century.... if you read his biography on wikipedia, you will realise that he bought lots to apple...and to the world of computing.....he's one of the inventors of multi touch...apple was a sinking company before steve made his comeback... during his 10 years as ceo, he did lots for the company and apple is at its peak today just because of him...

 

Yeah me too this Job guy is the cancer in Apple's blood stream. He has killed a large chunk of Apple's profit.

Wouldn't it be hypocrytical if Jobs was paid off by Microsoft to destroy Apple? The No Blu RAy and No native 1920x1200 resolution in Macbook or macbook pro?

I cant belive Apple didn't even see this?


Get rid of Jobs so they could provide a real job to someone deserving to lift Apple to the top of the food chain where they belong.

What if Jobs was never at Apple? Apple could have invented controlling your screen with your mind and or eyes? He could have set Apple Back? Who knows.

But we know this - it is because of him Apple fell behind with blu ray. Apple could have had so many more customers if only they put blu ray and 1920x1200 native resolution for macbook pro?

Jobs is a bag of hurting cancer to apple - you could say he is the rotten apple.

Your statement is contrary to reality. If Steve Job was to go the price of Apple shares will rise because investors know Apple will support BluRay aswell as 1920x1200 native screen resolution.

Apple will be a flourishing true multimedia when Jobs dies.

 

Well this is kinda getting out of hand. Talking about how a company would benefit from one man dying. Nobody wants anybody to die. Period.

If you do, there's something wrong with you.

On that note, I will have to agree with Jobs, Blu-Ray will die in a couple of years, if the pricing and the whole implementation cost doesn't go down.

I would love to have Blu-Ray in my Macbook Pro, but if that means I'd have to pay $5,000 for it, I would think twice.

 

I would like to find an Apple's unibody and build myself an awesome Vista machine.

This would be a dream a pc with sexy Apple unibody - none of this cheap plastic warping ugly looking computer cases from Japan, Taiwan, Korea or China we are seeing all over the computer store.

Oil riggers, Miners, and military personnel are heartless s lol.

 

Wow, Some of the stuff being said in this thread is really un-needed.

It is obvious that some people don't know what Steve Jobs did for Apple... Like saving it? If it wasn't for him Apple would probably not even be around today.

 

If it werent for him we would have blu ray and 1920x1200 native screen resolution.

The world has no place for the weakling eventhough he has done his part of his job for what he is paid to do. He didn't do anything for Apple he did what he was paid to do. But he sure has set Apple back a few years aswell Apple suffers from lack of Customers.

If you look at the wilderness and the jungle of Africa, even the Lion King must fall to other hungry and stronger nomad Lions.

 

So doing something that your paid to do doesn't count as doing something for a company? Okayyy....

 

@tyronne.
I can't believe that you want someone to die over a blue-ray disk drive and screen resolution. dude chillout.
The reality is that blue-ray and physical media as a whole is a dead idea.
apple is ahead of the curve and the majority of users don't give a flying Fbomb about it.
Just do a poll on how often people use there dvd drive and you'll findout its like maybe 1 or 2x a year... apple does its market research they would never ever have made the air if the lack of a dvd drive was a deal breaker. Its not just Jobs who makes those decisions its the whole company.
Stop spreading so much hate, the guy is in a bad way and its extremely distasteful and disrespectful to speak like that.
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Putting a halt on Apple leaping forward - fishing for customers at the same pond, instead of creating new ponds for apple to fish for new customers, is not good business practise.

Most of apple's customers are elderly people they need to get new younger people as customers and so forth. Why keep on keeping elderly people happy? Yes it's true elderly people are not into blue ray or anything eye candy.

It makes good business sense to keep elderly people happy but Apple must also seek younger customers and give them what they want such as bluray and 1920x1200 native screen resolutions. Then and only then Apple could market themselves as true Multimedia machine.

Wrong .... the majority of elderly apple customers don't give a flying bomb but Microsoft Customers like myself DO. That's the difference.

If apple want to steal Vista users they had better keep people like me happy.
Vista is ahead of Apple in this area.

The only thing good about Apple is iMac and MacBook Pro unibody casing.

Ummm losing Jobs is like losing Bush .... their public approval rating is lower than the temperature in USA.

 

This is just getting silly.

Thanks for calling me old too.

Oh and doesn't the 17" mbp have 1900x1200 res now?

In the end these are just consumer products, if you don't want/like them then don't buy them. Spending this much energy hating and wanting someone dead is not healthy.

Now I'm going back to doing work...as this is going now where useful.

 

tyronne is banned?hmmm

 

Didn't see that coming. XD

Anyways. It will be interesting to see what happens when the summer comes to see if he will actually come back.

 

I think we will see new products soon: more people=more ideas

 

I think what people should be questioning and worried about even more than Jobs' health is Apple's identity (and how it get's skewed by focusing on sensationalistic stuff like this).

Too many people nowadays (though, not all thankfully) think that Jobs' is Apple and vice versa. I will give the man credit for being at the helm during some really good times for the company, but the sky surely isn't going to fall when he passes...

 

Probably not, but it'll be interesting to see what direction the company goes if he doesn't return in an active role.

For disclosure, I'm not a Mac user nor an Apple basher. Like a lot of people, I'm merely interested in the tech industry. I think the perception is that Jobs IS Apple, in the sense that the current Apple offerings represent his personal vision, and things that are missing are missing because they don't fit into that vision. So if he doesn't return, one of two things occurs. Either (a) without Jobs' perceived grip on every aspect of everything, the company will be able to offer up some additional flexibility that may make it's product more appealing to users like me who dont' necessarily want to fit into the Apple box...like maybe a right mouse button or something...or (b) without Jobs' singular vision the company drifts aimlessly and loses the uniqueness that makes it's products elegant and desirable to it's fans, and Apple products become just another choice as opposed to an elite choice.

Or maybe they go on as they are now and no one even notices that he's gone.

 

I don't know. Look, Steve was the guy who came up with the iPhone, right? In a conversation with some dude in a bar, way back in the day.

But then again, what's-his-face engineer came up with the new way of editing in iMovie, and what's-his-other-face came up with the unibody idea for the Macbooks.

So who knows?
The point is we shouldn't talk about somebody's health like that. Wishing Jobs is dead just so I can get a Blu-Ray for my MBP is wrong. That's just how things go.

And I think that's why Tyrone got banned.

Good for NBR I say. We shouldn't condone such actions.

 

if tyronne badly wanted tht resolution with blue ray option, he could have gone towards other manufacturers such as dell, sony and others....blaming steve is getting a bit far....high resolution on a 15.4" hurts your eyes and blue ray increases the price significantly...only a hand of people would want to buy these options...it would't have been profitable to apple...

 

I am not an Apple fan. But I understand the company's decisions on not going a certain route with things. If people wanted these options, they could easily go PC, and nothing is wrong with doing that because both machines basically have the same functionality now.

I might do my bashing from time to time. But wishing ill upon someone is just taking too far. I just want to say the tyronne does not speak for all us Windows lovers.

That is all.

 

Wishing somebody bad over something as simple and materialistic such as Blu-Ray and a high-resolution screen is just cold...

 

Let's hope he stays that way. He has been annoying the hell out of me every time he is home, spamming the forum.

Clearly he does not realise Steve Job's importance in computer history. He saved Apple in the 90's, but that's not what I'm referring to...

Tyronne, incase you are reading the posts, Jobs was a co-founder of Apple computer, the first manufacturer of home PC's. Without that happening, we would be a decade behind in computer tech.

Now, what is with you and blu-ray? Is there a real point to it on a 15-17" screen? Is the quality that much better over a DVD on such a small area? You only want it to say that you have it, and to flaunt your wealth over this board, as well as people you know in person.

Back on topic...
I don't think Steve is done yet, and I don't think Apple is either.
Steve is a great marketing genius, and seems to have a great idea for what will be and what won't be popular products. However, he does not create the new stuff, nor suggests what to be made, so if he ever does go, Apple will still be able to produce some great stuff, but they might also release a few more flops in the process.

 

Providing the configuration option to add Blu-ray would hurt Apple's profit with selling notebooks? No, you have to see the reality. Apple wants people to download HD via Apple TV and iTunes, not buy HD via Blu-ray. For Apple, there is no immediate advantage of providing Blu-ray to the people. Apple is about strategic decisions, milk money, and to shape its customers into patterns that will make them more bound and dependent on the company. That's business practice A. It's just that Apple has always been extreme about it (well, from my observations, yours might/will of course be different...).

 

82ish on stock price today, fell from 90(they were barely hanging on that price for some time)

i a lot of ways i think apple should disclose jobs's health condition as it IS a factor for people to invest or not, the uncertainty produced this way simply means they are giving up means to save apple's price and unconditionally imply of jobs's health...

bad

there is a bottom for sure, but jobs's health indeed tied to apple's to an extend.

 

I would not be surprised at all if the SEC didn't take a good look at whether Jobs and/or Apple didn't deliberately mislead the public about his health condition in order to preserve their stock price. If I was an investor who purchased stock based in part on Job's earlier statement that he merely had a treatable hormone imbalance, only to see my investment decline upon the news that this was false, well, I'd be consulting my attorney.

On a personal level we all understand someone's right to privacy with regards to their health, but when you're the head of a publicly traded company, different rules apply. I doubt the SEC will leave this alone if it's discovered that there was intentional deception that cost investors money.

All that said, let's hope that whatever is ailing Mr. Jobs is treatable, and he'll be back

 

Will someone ban this fool already? Has he posted anything of value in the 100's of threads or posts he has created? Should have been removed months ago.

Why is this thread still open? Nothing but speculation and nonsense when it has already been clearly defined and stated by Jobs himself. You people are incredible, stop wasting your time and post something of value. A review, maybe? Answer some questions. . .maybe?

On a positive note, I now know exactly who's opinions to completely disregard.

 

your "clearly defined" statement coming from jobs's statement only says his medical condition is worse than he'd first thought and there is no detail beside "hormone imbalance" stated a week ago which held on until the macworld.

we are lucky that jobs had survived from pancreas cancer 4years ago such that apple isn't creditable at all when it comes to who to value first.

sure apple has 24billion at bank and semi-monopoly in ipod market, brand new design in mb/p and ambitious iphone; but it will be painful if a class-action lawsuit really take place.

bottom line: i consider apple is a good buy but the uncertainties coming from the boardroom is endangering that. i care about what the company does as it has always been surprising people's mind.

 

Hope he gets better!!!

 

Wow. Pretty rough Newsweek article here:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/179825/?gt1=43002

 

i quite agree with his use of term about apple as a company though, and the correlation of barack obama and jobs and the faith-based support toward them (i mean, how would a person invest based on faith that jobs is only suffering from hormone imbalance and many thing else?) it become so risky it shouldn't happen on openly traded company.

 

Sorry guys, resurrecting a relatively old thread. Seeing how there's a person in the Alienware forum who almost completely resembles him, I'm pretty sure he's back (under a different username.) Don't be surprised when you see him coming back to continue talking about how Jobs is a "cancer to Apple."

Just a head's up from a fellow NBR member.

 

your not suppose to say that in public your suppose to pm mod's if you suspect someone of doing something.

 

Hmm. Ah well. Just a head's up anyway.

 

Meh if he stays out of hear let the other sections deal with him

 

Sorry to tell u that but Are you out of your mind? Read Wikipedia and you'll see how was apple when steve jobs left it and how it became popular when he came back...

 

yes,but times had changed.Apple now has a management team trained by Jobs,so they know their job+Jobs is not an endless well of ideas...

 

thts also a good reasoning...but let's pray to god he gets better as he has got a lot of innovative ideas and i hope new products are released before he decides to step down as a ceo...