iPhone 4 HD Video VS HTC Evo HD Video

HTC Evo Video
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iPhone 4 Video

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All I can say is Wow, I wouldn't think there would be that big of a difference since I would think they would be using the same camera sensors.

 

Wow iPhone is much better.

 

I think that about sums it up.

 

Are you mixing them up?? The first video is from iphone 4 but you said HTC, and same with the video and link below.

I think the HTC win because color looks more natural for me from the video below.

 

no, the videos are not mixed up.

the top is the Evo 4G.

the bottom is the iPhone 4.

and yes, the iPhone 4 wins handily.

 

I don't understand why this forum contains threads about the iPhone ... You don't see threads about the iPAQ on HP's forums. It's threads like these that make everyone that owns a Macbook on this forum look like an Apple loyalist.

That being said, it's the rendered contrast/dynamic range of this particular scene that's superior on the iPhone. It seems that the HTC doesn't have a good algorithm for auto exposure. Also, what's up with all the noise and grain in the video? That's unacceptable for any kind of use, I wonder if it's because of the ISO the HTC is using. It's just too high for this particular scene.

 

while it says "notebook" many people have expanded the idea into just mobile computing, which involves "smart phones" which are basically pocket computers.

 

Nice comparison videos. The colour saturation levels on the iPhone seem a little high to me but otherwise wow, what a difference. The iPhone's video is truly superior to the EVO's. Even the iPhone audio track sounded cleaner to my ears.

 

Apple is not the only company that makes notebooks and smart phones (Samsung, Sony, HP come to mind). Yet this is the only forum on this site that you will see talk about the manufacturer's phone being compared to another.

It just makes Macbook owners look like die-hard Apple enthusiasts. You can keep telling yourself that computing is now mobile, that doesn't explain why this trend is only common with Macbook owners ... As if there's this constant need to prove something.

 

The results will definitely be different. Video quality depends heavily on the codec for how it is recorded. Also, the iPhone4's 5 megapixel camera sensor is unique to any cell phone. It's made by LG for Apple and is a "back-side illuminated CMOS" sensor. CMOS sensors (most commonly used in DSLRs) are much faster and light sensitive than standard CCDs sensors (which the majority of all digicams use). And back-side illuminated sensors are even newer tech. Only 4-5 digicams (from Fuji, Nikon & Olympus) even use these types of sensors yet.

 

Seems the Evo has back side illumination as well.
HTC Evo Teardown by Chipworks

I'd venture it has more to do w/ encoding/bitrates and how HTC/Android deals w/ the processing rather than sensor itself. For all we know the sensor on the Evo could be better but it gets crippled by the software. Maybe Android 2.2 will fix it but maybe not...I don't think buying a smartphone based solely on video capture capabilities is the best use of my money. Then again I think my time is more valuable than being the first in line to get a particular cell phone.

 

So much misinformation.

The light sensitivity of a sensor doesn't mean "better quality", it just means they have an inherent higher fixed ISO setting ... Which also means more noise ... Which is obviously bad without the right software to treat it. Of course, the iPhone images are neat so I'm assuming it adjusts ISO accordingly only when necessary.

I'll give you the benefit of doubt and assume you don't mean "faster sensor" as in the traditional sense but rather the photographic sense. In either case the phrase makes no sense how you've phrased it.

"Fastness" in the traditional sense should refer to the processor that demosaics the light levels recorded by the sensor ... Not the sensor itself.

"Fastness" in the photographic sense is dependent on the len's aperture and not the sensor ... But since camera phones have fixed lenses I'll just assume this is what you're talking about.

It wouldn't matter either way as the software should be able to detect correct exposure and adjust shutter speed accordingly.

 

Yes, I forgot this is a laptop forum and not a camera forum I was trying to dumb it down, you're points are valid and I was referring to the "photographic sense" for the speed of the sensor.

In any case...I'm still wagering the video quality difference has way more to do with the recording codecs being used by each phone than simply the using similar camera sensors.

 

looks like everyones trying to prove something...

if you really cannot see the differences in the phones and why they are talked about in an Apple forum... then you can just keep going with your "fanboy" logic, it wont really hurt anyones feelings.

 

It's because of the amount of trolling that would happen in the off topic section.

 

pretty much.

 

Very noticeable difference, the iPhone's audio and video are both superior. I'm still on the fence between the two though. I hate Apple's closed platform and lack of flash support. I think I'll hold on to my 3GS a bit longer and see what comes out this holiday season.

 

First of all, I can see the differences between the two video clips posted quite clearly, and not that it matters actually understand why the iPhone's is better in that particular scene.

What I don't understand is why it's a discussion on an "Apple Notebook" forum. I mean, you didn't answer to the fact that Apple is not the only manufacturer of notebooks and smartphones, yet it's only on this forum that such discussions happen.

At least Phil bothered giving a reason instead of baseless conjecture.

 

I see how you can mistake what I said to be about the videos up top.. it was nothing to do with that. I meant see the difference in how the iPhone is (nothing to do with this topic or videos) compared to other phones... that it hits in with iOS being Mac OS X based, and runs on iPhones, iPod Touches, and iPads.

 

Oh I see. Apologies then, completely misunderstood you.

But yeah, I guess there's a point to be made there. The iPhone (and Apple in general) is a touchy subject in the "tech world" if you will.

 

Im downloading the source file now for the Evo, there may be an unfair testing here because the IPhone is set to 720p full quality stock.

The Evo as comments on the videos snuggest is set to 360p only half quality by default, and he said in the video that everything was done at default settings.

Not sure yet, looking at it now.

Edit: the source file is @ 720p for the Evo, if ther is a quality setting that as to be turned on I dont know, but that quality is pretty bad, its sub par to cheapo walmart phones
Comparing it to the Iphone4 only makes the IP4 look that much better.

 

Even at 360p that is still bad quality. My 5 year old X-Camera phone could do better video.

 

It has nothing to do with the resolution.

The clip from the Evo has the following problems:

Luminance Noise: These are suppressed in the iPhone video
Color Noise & Grain: About the same level in both clips but more apparent in Evo due to the next problem ...
Overexposure: The highlights in that clip are clearly overblown, as a result the noise in the video is more revealing, and the shadows look undersaturated.

I don't know why it's so bad, but this is all software related. Exposure algorithm needs to be better, noise suppression needs to be better. Could have been a great phone but as usual Apple pays more attention to the details and not the raw power.

Also the 5MP of the iPhone helps it conceal more noise than the discriminating 8MP of the Evo.

 

I have a D90 Nikon DSLR. I can assure you that if I wanted to make it look like a crappy camera, I could easily manipulate the photos I took. Until I get a similar comparison from a confirmed unbiased source, I would say this is likely someone on the iPhone bandwagon concerned about the EVO market.

p.s. Using an iPhone GS for at the moment, and a 1g iPhone the 2 years before that...just get tired of nonsense...

 

Iphone 4 vs. Droid video
Smart Phone Video Showdown: Motorola Droid X vs iPhone 4

 

Thanks. Just to show you how unbiased I am, I don't trust that one either, although the droid phone looks much better in those instances. It almost appears the videographer intentionally washed out the iPhone samples.

LoL...guess the only way I would know for sure is to shoot the same video myself with both phones!!

Technically, the iPhone should work better...it costs a LOT more if you pay full price for the hardware.

 

iPhone 4 or EVO 4G: which one should you get? -- Engadget

 

Whether the iPhone is better then the HTC or not, Im pretty damn impressed with the video shooting quality of the iPhone now. I have young kids, and the photo/video quality is important to me for catching a quick moment when out and about. So much so, that I may upgrade to the iPhone 4 just for that alone.

 

Even the 3GS was decent for everyday shooting. I used it to complete several web design courses...and was always amazed at the fact the video was produced on a cell phone!

For me, the hot spot and 4g (network) is becoming more important, along with decent plan pricing, so it looks I will defect from Apple this go around and hope that in two years they will have 4g network capable phones on a decent carrier. But I do still recognize the iPhone for the technology that it is (and has been).

 

Wow the iPhone 4 looks way better!

 

I had a Samsung Galaxy S next to the Iphone 4 today. I did not get a chance to compare the video quality but did compare the screens briefly. The color gamut on the Samsung Super Amoled screen seems a lot wider.

It was very much like this picture:


( source)

 

OT and just for entertainment value, but I thought this was funny.