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    are any of these macbook air laptops fanless?

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by ralphzak, Jun 28, 2016.

  1. ralphzak

    ralphzak Notebook Consultant

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    i've seen some of these on ebay, are any of these fanless?

    13.3" Apple Macbook Air Mid 2011, 10.11. 1.7GHz Intel Core i5, 128GB SSD, 4GB

    Apple MacBook Air 13-inch mid 2012 MD231LL/A

    And generally, is there any list of which macbook air laptops are fanless and which aren't?

    I'm looking at ones over the last 6 years or so. As I don't want to spend more than a few hundred uk pounds or us dollars on it.

    (don't ask why I want fanless, I am very sensitive to certain noises, but that's not up for debate. I want fanless)

    Ta
     
  2. Kent T

    Kent T Notebook Virtuoso

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    None are fanless. And they get obsolete quicker as they are non-upgradeable, and also depot service only. And used, very expensive as they hold resale. Even in the USA, in my area, a used Air of any model is at least $400 or more. And the only likely fanless would be the new MacBook, which is also Core m and much slower, basically over $1200 US glorified netbook. Better bet is to live with a fan and get a MBP 13" or larger with some upgrade capability on RAM and storage. Cheaper and could be usable longer. If you must get a MacBook Air, get a new one with extended AppleCare.
     
  3. z31fanatic

    z31fanatic Notebook Consultant

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    RAM is soldered to the board on all Macbook models, Air, Pro or the new Macbook. Storage can be upgraded but only with a drive pulled from another Macbook because they have custom form-factor made for Apple.
     
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    Rhodan NBR Expert of Nothing

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    That is inaccurate, the MBP 13" mentioned by Kent T has socketed ram and can be upgraded to 16GB although it looks like they may be discontinued in the near future. OWC and MCE have been selling SSD upgrades for the Air and Retina and Mac Pro for quite a while now.

    Inaccurate, macs can be serviced at any apple store. With over 260 stores in the US alone chances are there one not too far.

    @ralphzak

    With that budget you're not going to get a fan less Mac, the macbook sells for $1200, used ones for around $800-$1000...
     
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    Kent T Notebook Virtuoso

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    Can they replace screens? Can they replace Logic Boards? Bet those are depot? Lesser things likely yes. So partially true. And the Stores are equipped to diagnose the machine, storage on MBP, and RAM and drive changes most likely. And in my case, a day trip to go to the Apple Store, parking nightmares (it is in a big mall), the heavy traffic, for me this is a 50-60 mile drive one way. Meaning for me a day's productivity lost. And like it or not, for some of us a major inconvenience when the machine is down.
     
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    Rhodan NBR Expert of Nothing

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    Yes they can replace screens, boards and anything else and yes they can diagnose systems and resolve issues.. If the part is not in stock they get it in in a couple of days. From your comments it seems you've never had a mac serviced by Apple.

    We all know macs are not for you, you made that clear more than once. But this is not about you, it's about assisting others with factual information. As I said before, If one cannot be objective he/she is doing everyone here a disservice.
     
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  7. z31fanatic

    z31fanatic Notebook Consultant

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    I meant to say current Macbook models. I know which Macsbooks can be upgraded and which can't.
    I know that mid 2012 and earlier MBP can be upgraded. And by the way, Apple just finally discontinued the mid 2012 13" MBP.
     
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    Rhodan NBR Expert of Nothing

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    Even so, your comment on storage being upgradable "but only with a drive pulled from another Macbook" was inaccurate.
     
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    You looking at the OWC options? Half the speed of the original OEM Samsung drives and they show up external drives even though they replace the internal drive and they cost the same as OEM. Why would you want to do that?
     
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    Depending on the macbook model OWC can be faster or slower than the OEM, for most older models OWC is faster than OEM. They don't cost the same, if you upgrade your storage at the time your purchase your macbook from Apple you only have one drive. If you upgrade with OWC you still have your smaller drive which you can resell or use in an external enclosure.
     
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  11. Kent T

    Kent T Notebook Virtuoso

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    Then, I am happy that Apple Stores can service them to higher levels.

    I stand corrected then on Apple Store service. Which also makes me happy. But still it is one day of downtime driving there for many if not more. I like OSX (soon to be MacOS again, a new old name I love). I like the styling of Apple Hardware. I even have Macs at work some. I love my Macs for what they are. But I run them mainly as light duty machines. As the cooling on them is not built for heavy lifting. And my MacBook Pros live on desks, and live a life of ease. As they need to be. So we will mostly agree here. By the standards of consumer grade laptops, their customer service and support as a rule is top notch. That I will also agree with you. But for work, for those who need durable and mobile, they're not what I use them for. The heaviest lifting my work Macs get is ProTools. Which is why I still buy Macs at work. And for the record, my favorite MacBook Pro model is the 13". A lot of machine in very little form factor and nicely styled, and full featured and good power.
     
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