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    Would u buy 2.53Ghz or 2.8Ghz Mac Book Pro?

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by George Benson, Oct 15, 2008.

  1. George Benson

    George Benson Notebook Enthusiast

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    Would u buy 2.53Ghz or 2.8Ghz Mac Book Pro? Would the new MBP handle real 3D games?

    Would u wait for the 17" to be released or buy the current 17" ?

    Would the 15" support 19020x1200 resolution at native mode?

    Would u buy the next generation 15" or buy the old one at a discount rate?

    Would u buy if it doesn't have blu ray?
     
  2. StrongerThanAll

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    i would go with the 2.53, assuming its the P9500
     
  3. yuio

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    first off I wouldn't buy a MBP, simply because the prices is crazy. but If I had the money...
    Would u buy 2.53Ghz or 2.8Ghz Mac Book Pro?
    2.53Ghz, that's more than enough
    Would the new MBP handle real 3D games?
    If windows was installed yes, but not as good as the AW M15x of course
    Would u wait for the 17" to be released or buy the current 17" ?
    wait
    Would the 15" support 19020x1200 resolution at native mode?
    '19020' doesn't exsist, but I know what you mean, and on an external display yes.
    Would u buy the next generation 15" or buy the old one at a discount rate?
    current 15 much better priced.
    Would u buy if it doesn't have blu ray?
    I would still buy.
     
  4. mujjuman

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    if money wasnt an obstacle and i knew nothing else about the CPUs besides their frequency, i would buy the 2.8GHz model
    if the 2.53GHz CPU had a higher FSB and more cache, i would choose that.

    blu-ray would be cool, but i would buy one without it too
     
  5. 2401PT

    2401PT Notebook Evangelist

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    The PCMag interview ( http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2332514,00.asp) says that the MBP had some overheating problems (paragraph 13, for reference) with the P9500, 2.53Ghz. Does that mean that the 2.8Ghz (T9600) will have serious heat issues, especially during gaming/watching HD movies?
     
  6. StrongerThanAll

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    yeah, but thats while running vista

    and the 2.8GHz will probably run hotter as it has a 35w TDP
     
  7. BlackMac

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    I would get the 2.8, because the only reason I would get the pro would be for gaming ( I wouldn't buy a mac pro for just gaming, I'm just sayin)
     
  8. 2401PT

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    The overheating with the 2.53Ghz CPU happened in Windows, which is where most gaming will be done, so will the 2.8Ghz CPU get even hotter?
     
  9. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Yes, the 2.8GHz CPU will get hotter under load. Get the 2.53GHz.
     
  10. Vision33r

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    3D Games are heavily dependent on GPU performance. High performance CPU wouldn't make much difference unless you have a fast GPU.

    Unfortunately none of the Macbooks will be great with current generation 3D games.

    If you want to play lots of 3D games, don't buy a Macbook. Look at my profile, I have the perfect gaming notebook and macbook Pro for other duties.
     
  11. George Benson

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    Ok i have decided against the purchase of this new generation ....

    Mainly because i tried it on my friends brand new 2.53Ghz Macbook Pro Notebook and it got very bad heating problems. We install Vista via bootcamp to play Call of Duty 4 / America's Army / Counter Strike / Flight Sims by Microsoft.

    1. Under battery it lasted only 42 minutes and 34 seconds when it was fully charged.

    2. The resolution was a horible it doesnt even support 1920x1200

    3. The DVD drive was so freaking noise i have never heard of any system start up that has very loud obnoxious noise like this.

    4. Very series problem with heat you could cook an egg on the table where you had the notebook sitting after playing 10 minutes of 3D hard core games.
    (it has very poor heat dispersion outlets).

    5. The fans were so noisy when the heat problem kicked in.

    6. The screen gloss was hard to play games under a room with lightings. My eyes got out of whacked after looking at the screen for 10 minutes with my room light being on.


    The design is awesome but i could barely tell the difference between the out going and this new one.
     
  12. George Benson

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    omg someone deleted my post regarding the testing of this new gen notboook regarding overheating problems.
     
  13. George Benson

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    is there an admin here that could help me? someone is deleting my posts regarding my testing of the new gen with over heating problems
     
  14. StrongerThanAll

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    whats wrong with that?
     
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    I would definitely go for the 2.8 with my particular uses, I can use all the processing power I can get. Games are a extremely poor measurement for performance of a computer overall. Most games anyway.

    I am interested in saving hours if not days on projects that I work on, allowing me to get more done, do more projects, learn more, overall be a happier person.

    well worth the extra cost of the $2499 model without question.

    I really can't believe with all computers are capable of nowadays that gaming is such a high concern.
     
  16. YasirJ

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    if your gonna game, game on a desktop, jeez...
     
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    The 2.8Ghz is almost certainly the T9600, which is a 35Watt chip (versus 25Watts for the P8600, and P9500, which is almost certainly what the other two CPU options are - thanks Apple for giving us info!). I reallllllly don't recommend the 2.8Ghz chip. The older macbook pros already ran hot, this refresh slims it down, and I haven't seen any indication of better cooling or more fans (any fans? there has to be a fan right? I haven't seen a new one in person yet, but images look very limited, cooling wise).
     
  18. hollownail

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    /agree

    And 1920x1200 on a notebook? a 15" notebook? Thats retarded.
    How are you going to game with a mobile video card trying to push that...
     
  19. Tarentum

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    1680x1050 works really well though, maxed settings ;)


    Jesus, the macbooks look fanless. Ew! 9600M GT in a fanlass case? :/

    edit: Wait no, 2 fans, just no intakes. Odd! I wonder how warm these run.
     
  20. hollownail

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    MB doesn't have a 9600M. The MBP does, its not fanless.
     
  21. Tarentum

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    Oops, yeah, I meant MBP. Good to know on the fans! (Just saw the inside of one, looks like fairly big fans too).
     
  22. hollownail

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    Yeah, williamG says they run cooler too. But I dunno how much stress testing he's done.

    Honestly, if I bought a new MBP, I doubt I'd ever run use the 9600m. I have a desktop for gaming and really just want to use a new MBP for development work. The MB resolution is just too small I think.
     
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    The thing is, I've seen several people talking about how they're so happy they're going to game on their new MBP and how the 9600M GT is so good it can run Crysis on all high, blah, blah.

    It's good to show people that if you're gaming on the MBP, you're going to probably have heating issues. Also good to know that the battery life is only 45 minutes, which is rather unimpressive, though not unexpected.
     
  24. hollownail

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    I bet it will do okay on Crysis. But honestly, a $600 PC can run Crysis wonderfully well. I felt that the hype surrounding how the game will kill a PC was most of the hype around that particular game...

    Yeah, but I dunno how many laptops can last very long playing games on battery. They're really meant to be plugged in while gaming.

    Don't mean to sound like you shouldnt' be able to game on a laptop... but if thats the reason you're buying a laptop... desktops are just better all around. They're cheaper, upgradeable and faster... It just really sucks when you spend $2500 on a laptop to find out that it has trouble playing games at max res/settings a year later :-/
     
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    Yea, I agree if your buying the mbp to purely game or your main objective is gaming.. dont waste your money.

    But I guess if your a light gamer the 9600m GT card is more than enough power + if you love OSX, I'd say go for it.
     
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    Would u buy 2.53Ghz or 2.8Ghz Mac Book Pro? 2.53 is more than enough

    Would the new MBP handle real 3D games? yes

    Would u wait for the 17" to be released or buy the current 17" ? no

    Would the 15" support 19020x1200 resolution at native mode? 19000 x 1200....

    Would u buy the next generation 15" or buy the old one at a discount rate? the new 1 of course

    Would u buy if it doesn't have blu ray? yes
     
  27. The_Shirt

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    I went with the 2.8, I know it will game, I don't game on battery power, and I don't buy all the heat hype until I see some actual numbers. I'm not sure why no one is posting heat numbers, even for the 2.53, since it seems there is a program that makes it easy to measure.

    As for blu-ray, I watch movies on my big screen tv, not on a laptop (or desktop) computer, so never a consideration.

    I would use native resolution (already wear trifocals and am old...so the less eye strain the better).

    And I ordered the new one...first Mac that ever interested me, now that there is decent power and graphics choices...