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    Would it bother you if your MBP keyboard flexed like a HP?

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by Helpmyfriend, Apr 18, 2011.

  1. Helpmyfriend

    Helpmyfriend Notebook Evangelist

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    Would your feelings towards your mbp change? Keyboard Flexing on mbp unibodys is rare, mine doesnt flex at all. Though some keys (k, l, o and p) seem to press in a bit mushier - though very minor and 999/1000 MBP users wouldnt notice or care. My buddy came over tonight and while he was on the can i testd his out and no flex either. And i pounded on his keys! Then id press the keys down hard and hold it and look for any give in them, very very little. So little its microscopic.
     
  2. darklich

    darklich Notebook Consultant

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    Yes, it would. I demand no flex.
     
  3. wave

    wave Notebook Virtuoso

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    The closes HP notebook to the MBP would be the Elitbooks and they have very little flex also.

    To me flex is something I read about in the reviews and then test when I get a new notebook. But day to day I forget about it. Keyboards with flex can still be typed on very comfortable and can be very good. Flex is an indication of build quality but only one of many. Flex does not make a notebook good or bad.
     
  4. Morgan Everett

    Morgan Everett Notebook Consultant

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    It would bother me, as little keyboard flex is indicative of good build quality. I don't want to pay £1000+ on a laptop only for it to feel that it might fall apart at the slightest provocation.
     
  5. Helpmyfriend

    Helpmyfriend Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes it would bother me too cause HPs are notorious for horrible build quality. The keyboards flex like crazy and you can see the actual keyboard go up and down as you type (even lightly).

    Did any of you test your MBP for keyboard flex when you first got it?
     
  6. SP Forsythe

    SP Forsythe Notebook Evangelist

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    Not yet, but I plan to do so next Tuesday. I'll let you know what I find. ;)
     
  7. Morgan Everett

    Morgan Everett Notebook Consultant

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    Nope. There's no point: given the laptop's construction, the keyboard cannot flex.
     
  8. Helpmyfriend

    Helpmyfriend Notebook Evangelist

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    What do you mean the keyboard cant flex on MBP? Any keyboard can, unibody or not. What is under the MBP keyboard anyways? What makes it so solid where it doesnt give in even when you pound on it?

    On any NON apple laptop, as solid as they can be, you will still have some keys where you can hear the back of the keyboard hitting a thin sheet of metal underneath it. i know my old asus and old toshiba would have thin sheets of metal under the keyboards and there would always be some kind of space between that and the actual keyboard.
     
  9. Morgan Everett

    Morgan Everett Notebook Consultant

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    I beg to differ: this keyboard certainly can't. I knew that before I tried, since the design makes it, so far as I can tell, impossible. You've about as much chance of being able to flex the trackpad as you have the keyboard.
     
  10. KernalPanic

    KernalPanic White Knight

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    Way too much emphasis on something that really doesn't matter past a certain point.

    Any minor "flex" a keyboard has has no real effect on the design of the overall laptop or its durability.

    The keyboard is just one component of a much more complex system and indeed the backboard of the keyboard has little effect on the actual workings.

    The reason for "flex" on most laptops is that:
    1) sufficient space between components and mount for keyboard to be pushed down. (a good thing, for both cooling and durability)
    2) backboard of keyboard assembly is not thick enough to resist the absolute reefing some people seem to think is necessary.

    While there certainly is a reason for concern when a laptop feels absolutely flimsy, a little flex (as opposed to ZERO due to no space to flex with the fragile components sitting directly below the keyboard) is not really a bad thing.

    There seems to be no end to the mac users claiming how much better their "no flex" is over something that "barely-flexes-when-you-stand-on-it".

    As an added bit of information, despite making up less than 10% of our laptop users, we have three times the macbooks with show-stopping manufacturer issues than all other brands. Note that while this number is high right now, its ALWAYS higher than every other brand...

    Note, this is not counting the people who doused their laptops in non-dairy-coffee creamer or other obvious "not-the-manufacturer" issues.

    As a side note, why is it mac users have this tendency to find new and interesting liquids to douse their laptops in?
    Void warranty different?
     
  11. Ollollo

    Ollollo Notebook Consultant

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    What are you talking about? HP Elitebooks are known to have the most solid and high quality keybords in the class, rivalled only by some Thinkpads. Ever tried one?

    EDIT: Wait, I got it, I got trolled.