The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    Windows 8 on MBP

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by too456, Oct 27, 2012.

  1. too456

    too456 Resident Angry Bird

    Reputations:
    572
    Messages:
    836
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Hi everyone, I clean installed Windows 8 Pro x64 via Boot Camp on my mid-2012 15" non-retina MBP. Is anyone having an issue where the brightness controls don't seem to work at all? My screen brightness seems to be at about 50% all the time, and the sliders in Power Options don't seem to do anything, and neither do the F1 and F2 keys. All other controls work fine however. I tried disabling adaptive brightness and adjusting manually, didn't work. Any thoughts?

    On another note, how long do you think Apple will take to release Windows 8-certified drivers and Boot Camp software, if at all? I ask this because Windows 8 doesn't shut down properly, where all the fans seem to turn off but the keyboard backlight remains on and if i closed the lid, the computer sleep light (the one next to the IR receiver) lights up. I have to long-press the power button for it to shut down properly.
     
  2. vindicator83

    vindicator83 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    102
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Not sure, but this is another reason I didn't buy the new MBP 13" Retina already...lack of Windows 8 support.
     
  3. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

    Reputations:
    2,365
    Messages:
    9,422
    Likes Received:
    200
    Trophy Points:
    231
    the drivers simply works. The thing is that windows automatically adjust brightness. You have to go to control panel and on energy plans, you go and change the value to manual
     
  4. slifer25

    slifer25 Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    How did you get the clean install to work? I have been trying to do that slmgr -rearm thing... or /rearm... but it keeps telling me that because it's not running on a core something it doesn't work... what do I do?
     
  5. too456

    too456 Resident Angry Bird

    Reputations:
    572
    Messages:
    836
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I've disabled the adaptive brightness controls, however it still does not allow me to change the brightness values manually.

    I clean installed by first using the upgrade assistant to download a copy of Windows 8 which I copied onto a USB stick. I then deleted the boot camp partition (because I wanted to resize it), then created a new partition via boot camp, then just booted off the usb stick, installed and done. Of course, you have to get the Windows 7 drivers by Apple. They work just fine on Windows 8 barring my display brightness issues.
     
  6. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

    Reputations:
    2,365
    Messages:
    9,422
    Likes Received:
    200
    Trophy Points:
    231
    the brightness doesnt increase even changing it on the charms bar? and you have to be sure because that adaptiv brightness is really tricky, that thing sometimes comes back on out of nowhere
     
  7. too456

    too456 Resident Angry Bird

    Reputations:
    572
    Messages:
    836
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I've disabled it and tried increasing it from the charms bar, power options, display menu, windows mobility centre, F1/F2, nothing. My brightness remains constant for some reason. It isn't at the dimmest, it's around 70% which is good enough for most uses, but I would have liked the ability to change it.
     
  8. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

    Reputations:
    2,365
    Messages:
    9,422
    Likes Received:
    200
    Trophy Points:
    231
    that is really strange, never had although I dont have cmbp 2012
     
  9. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    4,879
    Messages:
    8,926
    Likes Received:
    4,707
    Trophy Points:
    431
    Apparently Razer Blade users are having similar difficulties regarding brightness control, so this is certainly not an issue that's isolated to the MacBook Pro. I have to think Apple will release updated Boot Camp drivers eventually, and that will almost certainly solve the problem.
     
  10. too456

    too456 Resident Angry Bird

    Reputations:
    572
    Messages:
    836
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Agreed. Question now is how long they will take to release the updated drivers.
     
  11. avservice

    avservice Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    20
    Messages:
    257
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    The new OS has been out less than 1 week?
    Give them a break please.
     
  12. Thors.Hammer

    Thors.Hammer Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    982
    Messages:
    5,162
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    216
    Apple has had the RTM bits since 8/15. Maybe as early as 8/1/2012.

    They've had time. :)
     
  13. too456

    too456 Resident Angry Bird

    Reputations:
    572
    Messages:
    836
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    The RTM version was out since August, they should've had plenty of time.

    Anyway, I've fixed the brightness issue, apparently the beta version of the Nvidia driver doesn't quite understand when Windows tells it to change the brightness. The latest stable of the Nvidia driver works though. However, now all my function keys haves stopped working, even those that worked before. I noticed it when I booted my Mac this morning before reinstalling the driver. Just great :/
     
  14. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    4,879
    Messages:
    8,926
    Likes Received:
    4,707
    Trophy Points:
    431
    Apple didn't release Windows 7-compatible drivers right away either. I understand the sentiment that W8 should have been ready from the get-go, but keep in mind that Boot Camp support is so far down the company's priority list that it's more an afterthought really.
     
  15. Thors.Hammer

    Thors.Hammer Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    982
    Messages:
    5,162
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    216
    Gee I wonder why.

    The reality is that a bunch of us are required to run Windows in some form or fashion on our Macs. If Apple really cares about our satisfaction, then they really should make this a higher priority.
     
  16. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

    Reputations:
    2,365
    Messages:
    9,422
    Likes Received:
    200
    Trophy Points:
    231
    they fired 2 guys that were hampering that this week, lets see if mr hair gets the idea
     
  17. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    4,879
    Messages:
    8,926
    Likes Received:
    4,707
    Trophy Points:
    431
    People who use Boot Camp with any consistency are a tiny subset of the Apple user base. Making it a higher priority would mean additional time and financial resources that would be put to better use elsewhere. In other words - notgonnahappen.com.
     
  18. too456

    too456 Resident Angry Bird

    Reputations:
    572
    Messages:
    836
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Well, it's not like they don't have the resources to do it... I mean, even Microsoft hated Linux, yet they still contributed hundreds of thousands of lines of code to it, so it can't be all bad... right?
     
  19. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    4,879
    Messages:
    8,926
    Likes Received:
    4,707
    Trophy Points:
    431
    Believe me, I share your sentiments. It's just that from a business perspective, it makes little sense for Apple to do anything more than what they are doing/have done with regard to Boot Camp.
     
  20. too456

    too456 Resident Angry Bird

    Reputations:
    572
    Messages:
    836
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I suppose the least (and the most) they will do is release Windows 8-compatible versions of Boot Camp and all the drivers, which really just means that they will update the boot camp control paneland maybe the keyboard driver, because the Windows 7 versions of the drivers are all working fine except for those two (for me anyway)
     
  21. amk29j

    amk29j Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I've been searching for a fix for this problem for ages and I figured out a fix that works for me and maybe it'll work for you.

    1. Open Device Manager (Right click in the bottom right corner of the screen, click Device Manager)
    2. Expand the Monitors
    3. Right click on "Generic PnP Monitor" and choose Disable
    4. Reboot

    I have an early 2011 MBP with a Radeon 6750M and Windows 8 Pro installed with Bootcamp 5 and Catalyst drivers for reference.