Who's looking forward to 8Gb of RAM, 500Gb HDD and nVidia 8800m in MBPs ?

Would love a 17" (if they can't fit it into a 15") with 4-8Gb RAM, half a tera byte of HDD, 8800m GT/GTX/Ultra/Whatever nVidia card in a Macbook Pro.

Would you? How realistic is this configuration today? How about next year, say -- uh, I don't know, May?

Looking forward to your thoughts!

Cheers!

 

I don't feel those are realistic expectations for MBP in coming year.

 

I fear that would make the MBP way too hot . Not to mention, it'll have to be a lot thicker, and that's not nice.

 

it would be nice, but i def dont see it within the next year. sorry.

 

I kinda hope they release a heavy duty model.

Thicker, but with the capacity to run dual dual core and eventually dual quadcore.

Even if the battery life was 45 minutes, it would be great to have some portable power, even if you were tethered to an AC for the most part.

Ya feel me?

 

If they could somehow make that kind of notebook for less than $2500, and cooler than the current mbp, I would upgrade in a second. But I don't think that will be possible this year or the next.

 

I wouldn't need specs like that and most importantly I wouldn't want to burn my knees or set my table on fire. Remember, safety first!

 

Who in the hell cares about 500gb of space? I care about speed, and only speed. If SSDs didn't cost an arm and a leg and were faster than they are now, I would even settle for something as low as 32gb.

 

They could offer a striped RAID? You get both that way, space and speed.

 

RAID really doesn't anything for single user consumer based HD usage... aka for normal everyday users like us, it won't be faster. (Unless you transfer a load of files all the time).

Anyway, the important spec is mostly access time, of which flash based drives are I believe up to 100 times faster. Unfortunately OS's haven't been fully optimized to utilize them, but eventually HDs will (and IMO should be) used for mass storage more so than boot and usage.

 

I for one am tired of these stupid and idiotic threads about 8800Ms in 15" laptops or Core 2 Quad inside...why can't people find something better to do that post these BS threads?
Sure, it would be great, but it's not possible, because it would generate a lot of heat (the video card that is) and would fry your laptop.
The maximum you can get now in a laptop is a 320GB HDD. 500 is miles away...
8GB of RAM? People usually have around 2 with new laptops now, not even talking about 4 (despite a large amount of users here have 4GB it's not a relevant market share).
So...why post?
Anyway, Apple isn't even offering dual HDDs in it's 17" model (which is possible by the way, in the same size).

 

Why did you post, amice?

 

Actually, the 8800m uses the die-shrink, so it'd run cooler than the 8600m most likely.

 

Beets the whole purpose of a notebook if you ask me......

 

Right now, the power draw for a 8700m GT is 25W. It has been theorized that the draw for a 8800m will be around 35W. Right now, the 7950GTX pulls around 45W.

 

cdnalsi, it made me feel better mate.

 

i think thats a bit unrealistic and i dont think thats the direction laptops are going right now, i think 75% of R&D goes into making laptops smaller, lighter and more energy efficient, it will take a will for those specs and devices to be able to fit inside a small, light, energy efficient (haha and cool) MBP, it will be like the surface of the sun haha

 

It would not be for you then, but for video editors who need to compress files and rip DVDs and 3d artists who need to render scenes or animation, people who travel or need to work at different places with workstation power, it would be awesome.

Core 2 Duo really is a huge step up from the previous world of single core computers, but, Video and 3d are two applications that efficiently utilize mutiple cores well.

Obviously this would not be the machine you try to pick up chicks with at the coffee shop.

 

They announced the 8800Mobile GTX card from nVIDIA will be coming but never announced when........but by what Apple sells in there laptops/normal Macs they have never put in the highest end card in there systems so just expect the mid range to integrated GPU.

500GB at 7200RPM? Only if you get two 250GB HDDs in the 2.5inch format. I havent seen anything above 300 odd GB at 5400RPM for harddrives in the 2.5 format, but that could change in the next year or so. I would expect wider cheaper market of SSD before I see 1TB HDDs making it to the notebooks.

8GB of ram? Doubt it seeing how most systems have only about two or so DIMM slots. 4GB is possible today and probably in the not to distant future you might see 8GB worth of memory.

 

that is definitely feasible within a year, HDDs are fairly slow to be released, but I can see 4gb sticks of ram easily within 1 year. but man, who would have thought a MBP with 2.6Ghz CPU, 800mhz FSB, and 200gb 7200rpm HDDs with 4gb of ram would be available right now, good stuff.

I remember seeing a Hitachi statement about 500gb 7200 rpm notebook drives in 2008.

 

@FadeToBlack: No more coffee or caffeine of any sort for you today! Relax, bud, it's just an Internet bulletin board and this thread has caused no harm. It's ok to dream about crazy stuff, you know. Some of the notebooks we've got right now were just pipe dreams for some people just a very short time back. Pretty cool if you ask me (yeah, yeah I know, you didn't! LOL).

 

I got over that. I'm on to aftermarket upgrades for the D1730.
bmwrob, I never though that a D901C (a notebook of that kind) will ever exist or that it existed before I joined these forums, but I can still say that this combination here would fry the MBP. Well...maybe with liquid or nitrogen cooling...

 

It would be cool if apple released a MBP that was even more oriented for people that really need the speed.

Like... I wouldn't mind if they released a 2" thick notebook that had SLI and Raid kind of like the M9750. That would be a awesome notebook.

 

Apple are not making machines to satisfy the needs of a gamer.

 

Apple are trying to keep it simple, that's all.

 

How do you know that? Why did they put the 8600m inside? For Photoshop and iMovie? No, they put it in for EA's games.

Yeah, the 2" laptop sounds awesome!
Don't get me wrong, I love the 1" thin stuff but I'd love to see my laptop carry a little more punch

 

It wouldn't be a cool laptop at all. Apple will never make one of those.

 

Okay, I just rethought what I said. I realized that Raid + Dual GPUs may not be the best idea for editing. Though raid could help with storage a bit.

Since they are not designing it for a gamer, maybe a 1.25 - 1.5" notebook would be better.

Specs:
High end santa rose intel processor
2-4GB Ram
8800 (whenever it comes out)
500GB hard drive space

Without raid and dual GPU's, I'm sure it could be like 1.5", and that would be a great notebook in my opinion, which wouldn't just be for gamers, but for semi/pro professionals.

Even 2" wouldn't be bad if it was lighter then the competition.

 

What would they call that? The MacBook Pro Pro?

 

Do you really think your X1800 performs better @ 1920x1200 than an 8600m GT @ 1440x900? Apple may not be making machines specifically for gamers, but it gets the job done anyways.

 

Yep Rei86. I would say that your laptop is probably slower then a Mac running XP with bootcamp. We would have to test it to be sure, but I believe that the X1800 would perform slower then the 8600m GT with the same res.

The MBP is pretty much a 15" gaming notebook if you want it to be. Check on those scores though, because the X1800 may still be faster then the 8600GT.

 

At the same resolution, it may well be faster. But at native resolution, 1920x12900 and 1440x900 respectively, somehow I doubt an X1800 mobile variety can render faster than an 8600m GT.

 

This is like when people say the 7950GTX is worse for games then 8700M GT.

And yes I do expect a NEXT generation card to be good but the 8600M isn't what people are going to be screaming for when it comes to gaming.

 

Nope, the 8600M is actually faster then your X1800. Well at least in these tests it had a 200 advantage in score in 3dmark06.

This website should be stickied somewhere I just found it and its pretty good.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html

 

And yes, I do know that the 7950 is better then the 8700. Its funny how Nvidia developed a really good midrange card (a little slower then the 7900gs), and the "high" end card performs slower then last years high end card.

 

I'm not trying to say my x1800 is better then what the 8600M GT is but no one looks at a Apple computer and cream and call it a gaming platform.

And if I could've have I would've taken a 7900GS over the POS X1800 any day of the week.

 

The x1800 is still a great performing card though. And you are right, no one looks at apples computers and calls them gaming computers. The 8600GT in the MBP could be under clocked like the x1600 was, I have yet to look into it though.

 

Yes, it's a bit underclocked in 15" mbp - @475/635(3940 stock) but it can be overclocked up to 590/740 giving around 4800 in 3dmark06, which is one of the best results for any 15" laptop(maybe g1s comes close)...

Yeah, and that 3200 at notebookcheck is for ddr2 model of 8600gt I guess, mbp has gddr3. So x1800 can't compete at any resolution whatsoever...

 

You can have 500 GB in a MB, MBP, or PBG4 right now today.

Western Digital sells a 250 GB PATA drive (for PBG4) and several other vendors sell 250 GB SATA models.

Anyhow, MCE computing sells a drive "caddy" that allows you to remove the superdrive and install a 2nd HDD in its place. 2x 250 GB = 500 GB. Today.

Of course you then need a FW or USB optical drive.

 

Stone825 they could fit the 8800M in the 17". That would be possible, but they still would have to find a solution to all the heat. They could even squeeze 2 HDDs in it, but I bet it will cost more than 3.000, so...

 

The MacBook Executive prehaps? Ooooh, or to make a bad M$ pun "Media Center Edition"...

 

No they will not do this. The 8700GT has a powerdraw of 25w, the 8800M has 35W+.

Obviously, if Mac notebook pro can't handle a 8700, then it will surely not be able to support the 8800m.

 

Ya and obviously, Apple would never offer the omition of a CD/DVD drive for an additional HD. Plus, notebooks that usually support these features (internal raid,SLI,"high-end GPU") are not what you'd call.. thin, light, quiet or extremely mobile.

 

I wasn't saying that. I was saying they could have 2 HDDs inside along with a 8700M GT in the 17" model. That can be done. Just look at Alienware.
They could do it, but they will have to either rise the price on this model (which will not be so popular in the 3.000 range) or lower all the other prices (which isn't also a great idea).

 

If you've ever had to lug a dual G4 or a Mac Pro tower into a conference center or a client's office, you'd think the 2" thick 10 pound laptop with workstation power was a dream.

For a lot of stuff, the current MBP is great, for for 3d, large print work and video editing (mostly compression) more cores would be awesome.

 

Lug your desktop to Starbucks, like this guy :

 

That guy is looking like a geek by the way he's typing.

 

A geek? I thought geeks dont need to look at there keyboard to type

I should do that and bring my desktop with me to StarBucks or something and see what people have to say.

 

if you want all that power get a Mac Pro


and a regular 2.4ghz, 4gb ram mbp for mobility.

it'll suffice till you get back to the office

 

8GBs of RAM is not a "future" MBP, but the current one.

http://www.intel.com/business/casest...ncepts_dcs.pdf

^ 36-bit memory controller with support for 4GB ram and the ability to scale up to 8 GB when sodimms are available.

So, then...give it time and my 2.6ghz Macbook Pro Will have 8gb of ram and a 500gb hard drive. However...that 8800 is something different

Bingo!!