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    What do YOU personally think if imac's?

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by caguioa, Jun 2, 2012.

  1. caguioa

    caguioa Notebook Consultant

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    my friend is planning on buying a 13inch, when it comes out, he says thhey are upgrading them, inside i chuckled i bit and told him its new sandy bridge, then he says they are also upgrading the graphic cards.


    i heard mac are overprice on what the specs...yet he keep saying they are virus free laptops etc.. bragging about how good they are -__-"
     
  2. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    An iMac is an all-in-one desktop. Apple notebooks are either MacBook Pro or MacBook Air. There's no such thing as a 13-inch iMac.

    Apple is most likely going to redesign the MacBook Pro this year. It's probably going to have Ivy Bridge, an NVIDIA Kepler GPU, and no optical drive. None of this will be known until Apple announces it, which likely will happen at WWDC (June 11-15).

    Apple notebooks do not get Windows viruses (unless you're running Boot Camp), but they are not virus/malware free. That was proven a few weeks ago with the Flashback trojan.

    Spec for spec, Apple notebooks are overpriced when comparing the hardware. However, the machines are built well, come with the best trackpad of any laptop on the market, and have good support especially if you happen to live near an Apple store or authorized 3rd party repair facility.

    Since this question specifically pertains to Macs, I've asked the mods to move your thread to the appropriate forum.
     
  3. shriek11

    shriek11 Notebook Deity

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    Apple has mentioned iOS 6 and Mountain Lion as the topics to be discussed in the conference, so I am not really sure about the new macbook announcement.

    It would be awkward for the macbook pro to not have a dvd drive at all. I have an external bluray now, but no dvd drives would be a con for me.
     
  4. Generic User #2

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    the cheapest model of every macbook line (the mbp 13" and the macbook air 11") are actually very reasonably priced laptops. they are still more expensive spec-for-spec compared to their windows counterparts, but what you're paying extra for is superior chassis (aluminum vs plastic, lighter weight, smaller size).

    whether or not the chassis is worth the cost is up to the buyer

    however, as soon as you upgrade (even within the same size screen), the prices quickly become outrageous.
     
  5. Yotsuba

    Yotsuba Notebook Evangelist

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    I personally think the iMac is a great system for someone who wants a minimum amount of wires as well as one who doesn't regularly tinker with the innards of their system. They're also great if you have a limited amount of space to work with when it comes to a desk. If I had the money, I'd definitely replace my HP desktop with one, preferably 27-inch model.
     
  6. tijo

    tijo Sacred Blame

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    I have to agree with this, not all macs are overpriced and if someone prefers OS X as well as the looks of the macs and are willing to pay for it then go for it i say. I'm a tinkerer and a gamer, as such mac aren't for me, but the macbook air was for a long time the only ultraportable i'd have considered and the imacs aren't badly priced either, i still consider those to be the best All-In-Ones currently available. The macbook pros are overpriced once you go up the hardware food chain as others said. I'm also not a fan of their thermal design, but that's another story.
     
  7. Mitlov

    Mitlov Shiny

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    The Macbook Air is very well-priced compared to similar PC competition. The ultrabooks that dramatically undercut it on price are cheaper for a reason, and quality PC ultraportables (Series 9, Envy 14, Vaio Z) aren't any cheaper than the MBA 13.

    But I can't agree that the current MacBook Pro 13 is well-priced compared to PC competition (the Vaio S13 and the ThinkPad T420S spring to mind as high-quality PC competition; I'm not talking about low-price-for-a-reason entry-level-consumer models from Dell/HP/Toshiba/Acer). Both come in at about $1000 (undercutting the MBP 13 by a couple hundred bucks), have the same performance specs, and offer 1600x900 screens (significantly more resolution than the MBP 13). The T420S is under 4 lbs and the Vaio S13 is 3.5 lbs (the MBP 13 is 4.5 lbs). The Apple's got the better trackpad, sure, but the Vaio and Thinkpad offer other advantages the MBP 13 doesn't have (a GPU in the Vaio and incredible durability of the ThinkPad). I think the MBP 13 would be easier to justify at $999 instead of $1200.
     
  8. Generic User #2

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    mitlov, i'll submit on the point of the MBP 13". I didn't realize that the SA had pretty much replaced the SB in terms of pricing. also, i'm used to buying MBPs with a $100 student discount :S *

    still, I can get a 128GB UX31 for $1100 retail, while the MBA would cost me $1350.

    the last time i checked, the MBP line should be getting a chassis refresh soon. I think that will drastically change the competitive landscape.

    * on a sidenote: i consider thinkpads to be total feces. they have great keyboards. they have great durability. but the amount of custom drivers on it is ridiculous. a techie friend of mine 'bricked' his thinkpad when he tried getting rid of the bloatware.
     
  9. KCETech1

    KCETech1 Notebook Prophet

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    how?, did they screw up a bios flash or something?, both my x220 and 420 have both been clean loaded with win 7 and 2 basic drivers from lenovo. and an r50, t60, t61 and many others before. the only custom drivers for a thinkpad is the media buttons and thinklight in auto mode
     
  10. Generic User #2

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    I think they tried to do something with the battery manager program/driver lenovo puts in there.

    for clarification, what i mean by 'bricked' is that the computer refused to turn on for a long while(not sure if the lappy was ever fixed)
     
  11. KCETech1

    KCETech1 Notebook Prophet

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    ahhhh, ok they activated the battery recalibrator which used to fully discharge the battery before anything could be done. ( power light flashed yellow for a few hrs ). thats a case of not RTFM and screwing up. we did that once at work too

    sorry all I know we got OT
     
  12. Yotsuba

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    Bloatware on a Thinkpad? Aside from the usual antivirus trial, I can't think of much bloatware that could be on one. Back in September, I had an IdeaPad that I bought from Best Buy of all places and it had almost no bloatware.
     
  13. KCETech1

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    I agree with you, it was generic user who said full of bloatware. my x220 only had a norton trial and that pesky office 2010 starter
     
  14. Mitlov

    Mitlov Shiny

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    My office's Thinkpad E420 had the Office Starter and an antivirus free trial...no other bloatware. Only the ThinkVantage Tools software, which isn't bloatware because it's darned useful. I installed Office Home & Student, took off the AV software and put MSE on instead, and we were good to go.

    I'm sure it will; the addition of a Retina display alone would dramatically change the question of whether an MBP 13 is worth its price. My comments about the MBP 13's poor value for the price are solely related to the current model against its current competition.
     
  15. eleven

    eleven Notebook Consultant

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    I think an iMac can boost the overall sexiness of a modern themed living room.
    However, a sick multiple monitor setup of a similar Windows PC boosts the overall nerdiness (no offense meant).
    I would choose the latter of course.
     
  16. KCETech1

    KCETech1 Notebook Prophet

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    does this workstation at work count as nerdy then? ;) to me its sexy
     

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    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    the problem with that setup is that there is no monitor in front of you :p

    You need an odd number of monitors horizontally. Can you stack them 3x2?
     
  18. KCETech1

    KCETech1 Notebook Prophet

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    I could but for a video editing station its nice to have the quad infront of you, you can easily pull clips from top 4 into the bottom 2 as your main project workflow, or reconfigure the quad into a single pane for colormatching and fine detail without losing perspective being zoomed into a small area. the wing 2 also used for app toolbars or file management & email it does take a bit of getting used to

    and to add in a question i got in a PM those are Eizo SX2762W's 2560x1440 resolution