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    Used price check?

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by diaper84, Dec 5, 2011.

  1. diaper84

    diaper84 Notebook Guru

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    hi,
    I'm picking up used MBP tomorrow for 1700
    It may sound expensive, but it comes with

    -2.3 quad i7
    -8gb
    -256 ssd
    -anti-glare screen

    do you think the price is reasonable? I do but kinda want a second opinion.
     
  2. darkloki

    darkloki Notebook Deity

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    What's the GPU and does it have apple care? I was able to pay 900 for the one in my sig just last week, No ssd though only a 500gig 7200 RPM.
     
  3. no1up

    no1up Notebook Evangelist

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    for a your not getting a awesome deal, but thats the going rate for a 15", new (I think) still, I wouldn't pay that much for laptop, unless the computer was MAKING me money, I got a 2011 MBP brand new 13" for $900, which is a good deal, but also took about 3 days of hunting on ebay.
     
  4. darkloki

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    Upon further research as I tried to pricepoint the system you got, I discovered that there is no 2.3 quad. So I was unable to determine what GPU you have. (It's to my limited knowledge that the 2011 models are the only quads, as 2010 i7's are still dual core) However, the quads are of 2.2 and 2.4 speed. You're somewhere in between, lol.
     
  5. diaper84

    diaper84 Notebook Guru

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    2.3 quad is a optional upgrade from 2.2(mc723)
    so it has 1gb GPU

    ooh btw I forgot to add this is a 15" model, which was released this february, so yeah it has applecare.

    brand new with similar upgrade cost 3300ish for current model.
     
  6. darkloki

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    That's pretty DUMB imo, as I would have personally spent the 200-250-300 extra dollars towards upgrading to the other model as not only would you have gotten a 2.4 ghz cpu (Which I don't even think you'd notice when runnig OSX) but you get a better GPU and more Vram WHICH YOU WOULD NOTICE especially when running graphical applications. Buying the lower end model and upgrading the processor makes no sense to me and I can't see a real logical explanation for it. In that case I think the laptop is a rip off by about 200-300 dollars. I've seen the higher end macbook used sell for 1750 right here on these boards.

    If you really want an SSD drive and think you need it then I suppose its ok. But personally again I wouldn't put a whole lot of stock into an SSD on my MAcbook. It's not like I bootup my MAc like my Windows Machine everyday if that.... And I hardly open up new applications one after the other. I mean it's not like Mac's have TONS... of applications (Coming from a windows user) I hardly experience bootup of any form on my macbook and would have personally chosen a higher capacity hybrid SSD drive over a Pure SSD Drive. The thought of FAT 32 on a pure SSD drive just makes me chuckle sometimes.

    All I'm really saying is with any of this stuff it's high money spent with such little gain, wasted money spent if you ask me agian (Sorry I know I've said it like 9 times at this point) But I can't stress how if you go with the lowend of the 15 inchers stay low end. Don't upgrade it and then still have something that's inferior to the higher end model after you've spent enough cash to hit 3,300 as you have said..

    The only worthwhile upgrade from Mac would have been the Screen to a high res or high res/Anti Glare.. Not 2.2 to 2.3.. In fact that's such a bad idea that As I've checked you can't even do that anymore http://store.apple.com/us/configure/MD318LL/A?select=select&product=MD318LL/A as that option no longer exists, so was probably removed after some realization was made.
     
  7. diaper84

    diaper84 Notebook Guru

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    dude...
    one i'm buying is MC723, This was released this year february, until recent upgrade which happened couple month ago. Newer MBP's model name starts with MD.

    btw this is higher end version of two. (mc721, and mc723)
     
  8. darkloki

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    The higher version starts at a 2.4 unless they recently changed it, is the video card the 5770? That's the one I would have aimed for.
     
  9. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    You're talking about the late-2011 MBP. He's buying the early 2011 - produced in February, just like he said.

    Specs of the early-2011 MacBook Pro

    Important bits:

    Processor and memory

    * 2.0GHz or 2.2GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 processor with 6MB shared L3 cache; or optional 2.3GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 processor with 8MB shared L3 cache

    Graphics and video support

    * AMD Radeon HD 6490M graphics processor with 256MB of GDDR5 memory on 2.0GHz configuration; or AMD Radeon HD 6750M graphics processor with 1GB of GDDR5 memory on 2.2GHz configuration

    The notebook he's buying has the 2.3 GHz CPU, which by default comes with the Radeon 6750M.

    Including the SSD, I'd say he's getting a pretty good deal for $1700.
     
  10. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    it's not too bad, but you could do better...

    1) 8 GB of memory has a marginal cost of single digit dollars, but is probably affecting the offered price for the seller

    (You can get 2x4GB for less than $40, and then sell your 2x2 GB of memory for about $30)

    2) The 2.3 Ghz i7 upgrade over the 2.2 Ghz is not a good value. If the price of computers with the 2.2 is lower, you should pocket that money and put it somewhere else

    I'm thinking you should price shop for a similar system with a 2.2 Ghz i7 and 4 GB to see how much money you can pocket... if you decide you want 8 GB of memory, just upgrade it yourself

    The 6770 and the 6750 are pretty similar, it's probably worth saving money to get the 6750.

    And, as was stated, you're looking at the new models, he's looking at the previous models.
     
  11. darkloki

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    Oh ok, how often does Mac change up the Spec's on their models? every 6 months? sehshh.
     
  12. no1up

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    Yeah the SSD and the RAM are killing you, I would get a downgraded model and upgrade it my self and save $500 or so... However, if you got the money don't even worry about it, buy it and enjoy owning one awesome computer that you will fall in love with everyday, instead of worrying if you "could have" saved a few hundred. For me, I have no choice as I am broke... lol
     
  13. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    They don't usually undergo a significant change every 6 months, sometimes they'll just get a minor spec bump.

    In this case, I believe the processor speed was increased marginally, and GPU got a significant boost on the base model, and a marginal upgrade on the high end model.
     
  14. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    I would say its still a fair deal, a 256gb SSD is expensive and to get the base model of todays mbp 15 would still cost more.

    Sincerely get it
     
  15. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Both models got a speed bump in CPU and GPU.

    The base from 2.0 to 2.2 GHz and from a Radeon 6490M (256 MB) to a 6750M (512 MB). The upgraded version from 2.2 to 2.4 GHz and from a 1 GB Radeon 6750M to a 6770M with the same amount of VRAM.
     
  16. diaper84

    diaper84 Notebook Guru

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    ^6750m is 1gb

    btw, I bought the computer and using it right now,
    20sec boot time is awesome