Tuesday is near-Macbook

Do you think a new Macbook will be released this Tuesday? I really want to see a Macbook with a core 2 duo, 802.11n, and better graphic cards. This way, I can buy this and use Vista later on even with aero glass.

 

I'm afraid not. Especially because last week, they released some new imacs and the title "It's Showtime" doesn't look like a new macbook will be revealed...

 

The tuesday event has most probably nothing to do with new Macbooks, but just like they upgraded the iMacs and minis without much hassle, they are probably doing the same with the notebooks anytime now. I really doubt they will have 802.11n though... better graphic card, perhaps, but I wouldn't count on it.

 

You are dreaming my friend! The MacBook will always carry integrated graphics, and as for 802.11n, the standard is up in the air right now. It is in real danger at the moment. So I really don't see Apple jumping in on something so early. Also, as others have said the event is about movies. I doubt any computers will be released.

 

More than likely, we should see the MBP release this week (to follow the imac update). At least I hope, but they're probably not going to mention that in the big event thing tomorrow.
Definently not going to get MB updates yet. I doubt they have anywhere close to enough c2d to supply the MB with right now.

 

i don't think so

 

Didn't some chinese newspaper say new macbooks/macbook pros were going to be released with C2D?
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/08/11/apple_macbook_to_get_merom/

 

No, they're making guesses like the rest of us. It's possible that they'll wait even longer to release merom in mbp/mb. It's possible they may release merom in both MB and MBP.
Most everyone believes merom will hit MBP either this week or next week, but doubt MB will see it anytime before October (or possibly November).

 

Its possible that Apple won't even release Merom until Santa Rosa chipset is out. I don't think Apple is going to be like the rest of the PC industry and jump on the newest thing right away, when they are ready they'll do it. I think even though Apple uses Intel processors now, they still want to differentiate themselves.

I could see a merom in MBP soon, but then again I don't.

 

I dunno, if they've already put it in imac, i doubt they're going to wait for santa rose for putting merom in mbp. Besides, they won't put merom in anyway.
SR will use a different chipset and processor pin configuration.

and on top of that, apple would be making a really STUPID decision if they decided not to put merom in. Part of the whole having an intel chip and bringing in PC people into the mac world will require them to have merom. Otherwise people will go... $2000 for a MBP C1D or $1800 for a PC notebook that has C2D...

Obviously, they'd have less chance of winning new people over.

 

I'm going to get my macbook tomorrow. But I hope if apple really announces the merom into the macbook, that I can have a free upgrade/trade

 

Anyone guesses what would be in the new MBP besides C2D?
I am thinking to switch if they have C2D soon, but besides the CPU there are still something to improve.
For example, the 4X single layer DVD, only 2 USB ports, and the absence of a media card reader.

 

well,I'm not that interested in having a media card reader.
More than 2 usb ports ... meh, not that important to me, I'd rather see a FW800 port. I can always get a usb hub for home if I really need it.

Yeah, the dvd player could be upgraded.

 

It will most likely only just get a Merom update if anything for the MBP's

Apple has never really given the MBPs under 17" anything better than the 17", the 17" generally has the Firewire 800 and 8x SuperDrive, however don't quote me on that. That was what the last gen 17" Powerbooks had I believe.

 

actually, it makes sense that MBP will get an upgrade and the macbook not (now).

Mac mini cduo -> Imac c2duo -> Mac pro woodcrest
macbook cduo -> macbook pro c2duo

they really needs to emphasize that MBP is their top-product and they have to differentiate more with MB.

Or perhaps another scenario, which will very likely to happen in my opinion: MBP will get santa rosa in the future while MB will get the Merom upgrade. Timing: around the release of Leopard. I think apple will avoid the inconvenience of replacing many (already bought) MBP with a MBP feat. merom...

 

My 2 cents I say Itune movie store and some kind of video Ipod maybe widescreen or maybe just mabe a macbook or macbook pro with HD/blueray but that just my 2 cents

 

right... blue-ray or HD ... like we'll see that anytime soon in one of their laptops.

Would be nice to have hd-dvd though... i'm really going toward that format more now since they're able to record the dvd to have both the SD and HD format without using up additional space.

 

I am sure Apple will be one of the first companies that put Blu-Ray or HD-DVD on their machines since Sony has already did it, but they may not do this at the same time they upgrade to C2D or maybe they will put it in the 17" first.

 

Nah, the Mac mini will get a core 2 duo as well. Apple will use Merom in all their notebooks, sooner or later. It makes no sense being left behind by the rest of the industry. Back when they were using PowerPC chips, no one could tell for sure if a G5 was better or worse than a Pentium-M. Now, everyone can say -these Sony and Asus models have Core 2 Duo, why buy a Macbook with only a Core Duo? Apple can't afford to be left behind.

 

Sony released the AR series with Blu-Ray because they're the ones who created Blu-Ray. Ofcourse they're gonna try and push their products. It wouldn't be safe to support one or the other since one of them is going to have to die. Also, Macs would be more expensive with those drives. Sony makes you pay 1000+ just for the blu-ray in the ar series.

 

Yup, Blu-ray drives are INSANELY expensive right now. And not just from consumer stand point, but also from manufacturing. I've heard that each drive costs over $100 just to manufacture.
But I doubt sony can afford to put too many blu-ray in their laptops when they can't even get enough for their PS3s they want to release this year...
and I doubt they're oging to share with such a shortage of blue lasers right now.

 

Apple is a serious backer of BD as I remember it is on the board of directors for the BD Association.
Also, Apple is always the leader in putting 1st hand technologies into its products.
So, I think it would be a reasonable guess for MBP17 to get BD on next major upgrade but probably not this time when they upgrade to C2D.

 

Due to the current financial standing of Sony, I really don't know where Apple would stand on this now.

Sony has been doing extremely bad lately, and looks like its still spirling downwards, many market experts are saying that Sony is putting all their eggs into one basket with the PS3, if the PS3 fails, the future for Sony looks very dim.

I think Apple will be more focused to the future and what will be around for quite some time.

 

Heh, not to pick on you, but Apple the leader in putting new tech in?

Is that why they still only have 1 freaking mouse button?

 

Yup, and with only having less than 500,000 units on launch date between the US and Japan, things look pretty bad for them. On top of that, 360 is dropping price to roughly 250/350 in Japan (and probably US). And then the Wii...
That and any format sony releases dies, despite whether it's technologically better. IE Beta and Minidisc.

 

Uhhh, no Mac portable is getting Blu-Ray or HD-DVD any time soon. First, there is a major shortage of the blue lasers used in those drives. Also, I highly doubt they have a drive that will fit in the MBP case. That is why the 17" only has the 4x superdrive. The 8x is too thick.

 

the 17" has 8x Double Layer drive. Check apples website.

 

I think he meant 15".
But both of them has the same 1" thickness, aren't they?
So, the fact that 15" doesn't have a 8x DL drive is not because of technical issues.
They probably just want to differentiate the 17" from the 15".
Also, I have seen the Sony with the BD drive, and the drive itself isn't thicker than the DVD counterpart in other laptops.

 

Your right I thought the 17" was thicker for some reason. I have heard though that it was a size issue for the 15". Nonetheless I still think we are at least 6 months from BD or HD-DVD drives in Apple's, probably closer to a year. It is too early. I mean even Sony's own laptops have a hard time playing the movies on their drives with their technology! Not to mention that currently there is only one playback program for Blu-Ray and the only way to get it is to buy a Blu-Ray Vaio.

 

I think the new mouse has right button.
I am not Mac guy but I did play around with a machine in a store and the mouse did perform right click (at least a context menu showed up when I right clicked on the desktop).
I think many people here will give more details about this.
But despite the 1-button touchpad, it is quite obvious (at least to me) that Apple has been putting new and high end stuff to their machine sooner than other PC manufacturers.
DVI output, FireWire 800, wireless card, etc...

 

Jobs has always been viewed as someone who always knows what would become something of an 'instant' success in the market in terms of products, and the One mouse button was his idea, however its one of the few 'bad' ideas he had.

Other than that 98% of his other ideas are great.

Yeah I got the BT Mighty Mouse, it has left and right click.

 

They wanted simplicity, and more than one button wasn't needed at the time. They seem to be moving away from this with the Mighty Mouse though, which is good.

PC mice haven't exactly been at the cutting edge either though, the original mouse (developed by Xerox in the 70s or so) was a three-button one (which has since been standard with various Unix-based computers for ages), it took the PCs many years to get more than two buttons...

 

Yeah, too bad the BT mighty mouse is way too expensive. Bit of a waste of money from what i see. I'd like a BT mouse, but paying $70 bucks for a mouse that I've heard has a somewhat akward right click... meh.

Starlight, I've had 2 button on my mouse since about ... well, I dunno what year, but since Win 3.1... so thats like, what 18 years ago?

Oh, the reason the MBP 15" doesn't have the better dvd drive is due to the length of the drive as I understand, not the height. Just what I've heard.

 

Thanks for looking that up! I knew there was a size issue.