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    Triumph! (switch control & fn keys; remapped to work like Windows)

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by sugarkang, Apr 3, 2011.

  1. sugarkang

    sugarkang Notebook Evangelist

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    Free at last!
    Free at last!
    Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!



    For anyone interested in doing this, here are some resources:

    Remapping keys in OS X (verified working in 10.6.7)

    Do not waste your time with DoubleCommand. If you are Win user going to Mac, DoubleCommand will not help you. Instead...
    Download KeyRemap4MacBook

    Turn your Fn key to Command.
    Turn your Control key to Fn
    Turn your Command key to Control (this is optional; I personally did not change mine because you'd lose the familiar Alt + Tab feel which is Command + Tab)
    Turn your Eject key to Forward Delete (yeah, holding down Fn + Backspace is stupid; one key please.)

    Follow the links to eliminate the Eject key delay. I'm still looking for a free solution to EJECT key repeat. If anyone can find a FREE version, please post.

    How to physically remove and replace keys on the MacBook:

    VIDEO 1: get it off
    VIDEO 2: get it back in


    WHAT'S THE POINT?

    I work on a Win desktop. I suspect some of you do also.
    This gives uniformity between platforms.
    CTRL + X, C, V, W, etc. all work the way they should, and even appears that way when you look at the key.
     
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  2. GizmoSlip

    GizmoSlip Notebook Deity

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    I'm tempted to do this... probably not going to move my keys around, but maybe remap them.
     
  3. Ollollo

    Ollollo Notebook Consultant

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    Nice work!
     
  4. sugarkang

    sugarkang Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks.

    Added bonus: The Page Down, Up work like a VAIO (Fn + Arrow).
     
  5. MoreNotebooksPlox

    MoreNotebooksPlox Notebook Consultant

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    I have moved to a OSX laptop and still have a windows PC but I've found that it actually makes more sense to use your thumb and hitting the command key, however for those that are struggling like myself in the beginning nice find :D
     
  6. sugarkang

    sugarkang Notebook Evangelist

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    That's true.

    But if you wanna go down that road, we should all use Dvorak.
     
  7. doh123

    doh123 Without ME its just AWESO

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    thats how they always work by default...
     
  8. sugarkang

    sugarkang Notebook Evangelist

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    Oh, I see. I didn't explain myself clearly above. What I meant is that the Fn key is now where I expect it to be: to the right of the Control key.
     
  9. OldJim

    OldJim Notebook Guru

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    That's something I would not do, but more power to you fixing your problem! :)

    Using a screwdriver seems a bit risky, though. Mr OCD says scratches on aluminium is a no-no... :D
     
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    I'm both a PC and Mac user. When I first started using Mac, I was so annoyed by the Cmd key, but now I find it easier to use than the control key because your pinky doesn't have to reach all the way to the left end to hit control. Have you ever had the problem of trying to enter something like Ctrl+M? I might have small hands, so that's why I can't reach Ctrl+M with one hand. However, if it was Cmd+M, I can enter it with one hand. In short, I find the Cmd key to be more comfortable, but that's just my preference.
     
  11. sugarkang

    sugarkang Notebook Evangelist

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    Cool. Maybe you can write a guide to make Windows keys more like OS X?
     
  12. NobleK

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    Great post. But does anyone have a software solution for doing the remapping in Windoes 7? I am using boot camp and I would like an uniform solution for both OS. I know that AutoHotkey should be able to do it, but it seems way too complicated since you have to write scripts, setup dll's and what not...
     
  13. Stiiiiig

    Stiiiiig Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well done that man. I got rid of a MBP last week, and my brother has bought his 2nd MBP after defaulting to a Beats Envy for a few months.

    First thing I said to him about gaming in Windows on a Mac (Lets face it Macs suck hard at gaming) was I hated having the Function key in the bottom corner, that is where Control belongs and where it should always be.
     
  14. HLdan

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    Give me a solid reason why "Macs suck" (as you so intelligently put it) at gaming. And please don't come back with the fact there are more games. I want to hear solid reasons from you as to why gaming sucks on Macs?
     
  15. aznguyen316

    aznguyen316 Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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    It's easy to swap the keys, they pop right off, Ive done it. As for the forward delete, I've moved mine to foward slash, a lot easier to access and I never use that key. It's the one to the right of ] key. =) yup yup.
     
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    Isn't it pretty obvious there are not many games for Mac. I dont know why you think that is a lame argument but it is true.
     
  17. HLdan

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    That IS a lame argument. The claim was that Macs suck at gaming. That's not true. That's saying that the system itself isn't good for gaming. Having a limited selection doesn't make the Mac suck at gaming. That's the developers decision, that's not a fault of the Mac OS. A lot more new games on Steam are being released the same time on Mac. Steam has been available on Windows for years but time will pass. Thanks for your lack of input though. Not surprising coming from a Windows user. :rolleyes:
     
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    ^ agreed, a more valid argument, although not true, would be because Macs did not offer any hardware above a certain threshold to handle games, but given the current lineup of iMacs and Macbook Pro's, they are more than capable of handling the current generation of games at high settings which is more than enough to be a suitable gaming machine.
     
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    The only MBP that can game well is the top of the line MBP 15.
    And anyway what i meant was that @Stiiiiig did not mean that Macs suck at gaming what he meant was that Macs do not have a good selection of games. I was trying to say that you had interpreted what he said wrong.
    There are still many games not available for Mac, think Crysis 2 or Battlefield. Basically the most of the good games are not available on Mac. And if you want to play games on a Mac the best way is to use BootCamp. I would not exactly say it is only the developers fault, why would a developer spend so much money to develop(or port to be more precise) for a platform on which there is practically no market for gaming. It is no ones fault actually. I never really said it was the Apples fault.
     
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    Uh, THIS POST⥣ should've been your first post. Instead your tone was confrontational and you never said any of what you said earlier. Your earlier post is why the Mac forum ends in so many flame wars with visiting Windows users. I would thank you to allow Stiiiiig to answer my question rather than sticking up for him. His post was borderline trolling. If gaming was the end-all to using a computer then Windows and the PC would be the only platform people use period since it's had more support. Thankfully gaming represents less than 1/10th of 1% of what most people use computers for.
    For the record, you're pointing out that the 15"MBP top spec'd model is the only one that game's well. By saying that you're insinuating that most any Windows notebooks would play games perfectly. Be careful there.

    Part of what you said is true in terms of developers holding back due to Macs being a smaller market, but at the same time that's nothing but a poor excuse. The Mac community has been crying for games for a long time so any smart developer could've made money a long while ago. Obviously with Steam opening up wholeheartedly to the Mac market they see a profitable business in it. Just my opinion, but from the way I see it the Mac community is more apt to spending money on games and software than the Windows community.

    But back to the point. He just said, "Macs Suck" "AT" gaming. That's an attack against the system rather than simply saying, "There's not many games for Mac". I could say something ignorant too without qualifying my statement like "Windows sucks in the world of music, Macs OWN". Without saying why that would just be an ignorant attack towards Windows.