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    Thinking of buying MBP for windows -- couple of questions..

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by Jonathan987, Apr 11, 2006.

  1. Jonathan987

    Jonathan987 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Does the new MBP have windows support for the remote (that comes with it)?
    I have been told that windows does not have support for the time in the mobo? I'm told that this will be fixed in the new version of OSX?
    My intension is that I will install this bootloader and then install windows and linux, no OSX...
    I have no use for it, please don't yell at me because of this. I'm sure it is a good OS.
    So I guess this begs the question: Do I have to have OSX installed to have these XP compatibility updates (such as the promised mobo thing) as they come? Will this work through boot loader? will there be ways to get around
    this?
    I am assuming you choose the OS you boot into, instead of windows being loaded while OSX is running?
    Biggest question: is the fan noise loud? (I don't care so much about heat, I hear this is being addressed) But I do care about what I can hear....
    If anyone has any other posts regarding how windows works on MBP please post em.

    Thanks in any case,

    Jonathan
     
  2. Jonathan987

    Jonathan987 Notebook Enthusiast

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    forgot to add a question: is express card/34 ..... same as PCMCIA?
     
  3. KoOni

    KoOni Notebook Geek

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    Hey Jonathan, Express cards are the replacement for PCMCIA cards and are not compatible from what I understand. Read the express card quick guide here. It gives nice overview of the differences between PCMCIA, Express Card/34 and Express Card/54 slots.
     
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    non of the apple additions will work under windows, such as the remote, isight, backlit keyboard. and no, express card/34 is not the same as pcmcia.

    if you aren't even going to use os x. don't bother getting the mbp.
     
  5. Jonathan987

    Jonathan987 Notebook Enthusiast

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    will they be providing support for these later on, are there any known "hacks" for them? what about linux support?
    What about fan noise?
    I went to http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/ and it seems that you can download a driver cd and but the firmware updates require OSX and are installed after OSX is shutdown and rebooted.
    I guess I'm going to wait until they fully support boot camp and when a stable firmware is released for windows support.
     
  6. pellepersson

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    There are a lot of really slim pc notebooks out there, go get one those instead if your plan is to run xp only.
     
  7. mnesikles

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    the closest PC i have found with similar specs to the MBP would be the ASUS V6J.....however, it's not quite as slim, the design is a clunkier, it only has a 1.66ghz processor, the graphics card is only 128mb geforce 7400.

    so, the MBP is head and shoulders above that in terms of specs and design. if you have the money, and can live without a few bells and whistles, then by all means, buy the MBP!
    the MBP is only hardware.....run whatever OS you want...
     
  8. RadcomTxx

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    but you won't be able to use all the hardware without using OS X. And no, Apple will not provide support except for OS X. They do not support windows on intel macs.
     
  9. Jonathan987

    Jonathan987 Notebook Enthusiast

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    RadcomTxx -- I guess we will just wait an see if they do end up supporting windows, but I think it is in their best interest to do this.

    As for other laptops, non seem to be as sturdy as the mac, and have as long a battery power. I guess I could live without the remote and I seem to think that most other laptops don't have back lit keys, so I won't be seem to be missing much.
     
  10. RadcomTxx

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    they've given the option of installing windows. I don't think they will go too much further with it. I figure they will improve it, but they want people to use OS X, not windows.
     
  11. xAMDvsIntelx

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    Yes - BootCamp is something that'll make Windows users feel more comfortable with the MacOS, knowing that they'll still have the compatability of XP. Apple will continue to update BootCamp, but the MBP wasn't made to be a Windows notebook.
     
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    not quite sure why you would want to get an MBP to only run XP, but the only real issue I see is that Apple will probably NEVER support XP.

    This is the same case with almost all companies -- they would only offer support to the OS that they sell. For example, when you order a Dell that came with XP, and you reinstalled it with Linux and some stuff failed to run, Dell is not going to troubleshoot Linux with you -- even though they actually sell Linux equipments.

    As long as Apple doesn't bundle XP with their MBPs, they will not offer support -- I mean, what's next, someone installs OS/2 on their MBP and Apple is supposed to be able to troubleshoot for them? lol

    Besides, right now it's *BETA*. When will it ever be moved to 1.0 -- if ever? who knows. Rumor is that it'll be offered in the next version of osx. I think that someone had the right idea that Apple offered this, as a way to expose more users to OSX, not the other way around...

    cheers,

    yass

    (that being said... I'm eyeing the 20" iMac... ymmmm :) )
     
  13. PackFan

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    That's just the point... I don't think anyone is saying they would use it to ONLY run XP. If it runs XP as well as an equivalent PC notebook, however, AND has the ability to dual-boot between XP and the Mac OS - Wow! What a great option!

    To me it sounds like some of the Mac faithful are indignant that a PC user would consider a Mac for primarily running XP. That's silly if you ask me... It's all about the options - it's like having 2 systems in one.
     
  14. yassarian

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    hehe did you actually read the OP?

    "My intension is that I will install this bootloader and then install windows and linux, no OSX...
    I have no use for it, please don't yell at me because of this. I'm sure it is a good OS."

    To me, if paying the premium to get the MBP(for the looks, I assume) just to run an unsupported, not very well tested OS, is kinda silly...

    cheers,

    yass
     
  15. PackFan

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    Ah... Missed that part. I've been reading other threads where people are lambasted for their intent to use mostly Windows but also dual-booting with Max OS...
     
  16. PackFan

    PackFan Notebook Enthusiast

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    Wow... really touchy people around here. This post was really worth killing my "reputation" about?!? Mostly, it was speaking of the virtues of using an Intel Mac as 2 machines in one!

    Whatever... But oh so typical...