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    So what will be in the new 13" Macbook Pro?

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by Phil, Jan 11, 2010.

  1. Phil

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    This is my guess for the base model:
    Intel Core i3 330M 2.13 GHz
    2GB or 4GB
    320GB HDD
    Intel HM55 HD graphics

    If we get a refresh, what do you think will be the new 13" MBP?
     
    Phil, Jan 11, 2010
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    I'm gonna be a little more optimistic as I think i3 isn't much of an upgrade, in fact it's a downgrade with the graphic card.

    Intel Core i5-430M
    2GB
    320GB HDD
    Intel HM55 HD graphics + AMD ATi 5450
     
    D3X, Jan 11, 2010
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    Going to be a little more optimistic than Phil, but not quite as optimistic as D3X

    Intel Core i3 330M
    2GB
    320GB HDD
    Intel HM55 HD graphics + AMD ATi 4330
     
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    What about the screen? Will they stay at 1280*800 or go 1366*768 or maybe even 1600*900?
     
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    I think it'll stay 1280*800, but will allow for a CTO to 1366*768.
     
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    thats the one thing no one really talks about, but to me is the most important item...I really really want a better res. 1366x768 isn't much bigger at all. Something 1440x900+ would be schweeet. though not sure if 13" screens at that rez exist?

    Man, I'd even buy a refreshed MBP with c2d and 9400M if it had a higher res screen.
     
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    Yes they do exist. Lenovo X300 has 1440*900, Sony Z has 1600*900.
     
    Phil, Jan 11, 2010
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    oh god, a 1600x900 13" MBP....mmmmm...I'll take two!
     
    gFiz, Jan 11, 2010
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    Don't we all wish? I'd like a higher res screen for the MBP, but my gut feeling says that Apple will likely not... I have no clue why though..
     
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    I thought only the i5 was verified as being a valid Apple CPU by Intel at the CES?
     
    Falundir, Jan 11, 2010
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    All speculation of course but I think they should now have 4GB RAM as standard and possibly a discrete GPU. I can't see them putting a high(er) res screen on the 13" but who knows. I still think Apple's efforts this go around will be focused primarily on the tablet so I wouldn't expect anything spectacular from the MBP refresh; spec bumps only IMO. It'd be nice to be proven wrong though. :)
     
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    You think 1280x800 on the 13" is bad- take a look at 1440x900 on the 15.4"- it's even worse. I sooo wish Apple would do a 1680x1050 BTO on the 15".

    Because unfortunately when you get to that resolution, many, many customers perceive that as creating text that is too small to read (comfortable or at all). However, that's not an issue if they simply add it as a configurable option (pretty please Apple?! :) )
     
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    I think it was the opposite. Intel smartly said they don't pre-announce the products of their partners, especially Apple. I think it's the Mac websites that always drum up any rumour, benchmark or press release of new Intel processors as Apple candidates.

    2.26GHz Intel Core i5 430M
    4GB
    320GB HDD
    Intel HD Graphics + 256MB dedicated GDDR3 nVidia Geforce 310M

    I'm thinking for the 13" MacBook Pro, Apple will stay with the Core i5 series. The Core i3 may be used for the White MacBook, although Apple might as well stay with the same base processor, and try to get a volume discount. The 2.4GHz Core i5 520M can be used for the higher model 13" MacBook Pro.

    I'm thinking Apple will retain Arrandale's IGP, afterall it is there, and there's little point in leaving it disabled. They can then couple it with a low-end GPU. The Intel HD Graphics should offer better battery life than the 9400M and the 310M offers better performance. ASUS was just demonstrating notebooks with dynamic second-by-second switching between IGP and discrete GPU and something like that in OS X would be ideal. The dedicated VRAM for the 310M may be DDR3, but Apple has always used GDDR3 even on low-end GPUs like the HD 2400XT.

    For screen, if Apple sticks with 16:10, which is my preferred widescreen form factor, I think they'll most likely keep 1280x800. If they switch to 16:9, it'll no doubt be 1366x768. If Apple were adventurous they could always go OLED.

    EDIT: Just to clarify my choice of the nVidia 310M. I chose low-end nVidia for the 13.3" MBP, because I'm hoping Apple goes with the ATI 5650 or higher for the 15.4" and 17" MacBook Pro and so would throw nVidia a bone on the cheaper models.
     
    ltcommander_data, Jan 12, 2010
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    Heres my guess.
    Intel I5
    2GB (expandable to 8GB)
    250GB Hd
    Intel graphics + ATI 5xxx series
    Big news will be the real time switching. Its the latest craze... ASUS, sony are doing it so the tech is there, and I bet apple won't be far behind.
    a
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    On the fly switchable graphics by ASUS

    ps. ^^^OOps Itcommander beat me to it.
     
    Underpantman, Jan 12, 2010
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    I really wish that apple will come up with an OLED screen just like Dell Studio XPS 16 concept with OLED screen.
     
    haquocdung, Jan 12, 2010
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    Won't be happening soon. Unless you want to pay for a MBP with OLED screen for $6000. OLED is just not affordable with their manufacturing process just yet. Remember the Sony OLED XEL-1 TV that's still selling for $2100 and it's just an 11"...
     
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    You hit the nail on the head. I misread this article..

    http://9to5mac.com/core-i5-benchmark-video
     
    Falundir, Jan 12, 2010
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    Will the battery life stay the same do you think?
     
    cozyann88, Jan 12, 2010
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    who thinks they will be out b y the end of this month?
     
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    Matte screens.

    Bah, I'm being too optimistic. Probably just i5s and improved battery life.
     
    surfasb, Jan 12, 2010
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    Matte screens would be BAMF.
     
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    Seems very likely.
     
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    it looks like; a specs-wise upgrade by this month and a complete design improvement+specs by the middle of 2010.
     
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    I would love it if they could ditch the DVD drive, make it thinner and 300 grams lighter.

    Like a Macbook Air Pro.
     
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    Looks fake, coming from a graphic/web design field, that Site promo looks pretty darn generic. I could have came up with something much better than that! Besides, the fuzzy scientist holding a peanut really gives it away..
     
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    Ok thanks. Well that confirms it's not a peanut :)
     
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    fwiw, looks like they've updated the drawing prize page. I'm betting they probably got a few new "I.P.Freely" registered users this morning and realized the gaffe :p
     
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    LOL I guess Intel hired some guys that just didn't do their research and used some lame photo stock.. good to hear that I was somewhat right with the i5 prediction :D
     
    D3X, Jan 13, 2010
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