Should apple change to Nvidia chipsets for the new Macbooks

With Nvidia planing a big media event on the 15th all bets are on Apple including the new MCP79 chipset in the new Macbooks/Pro's/airs
But given the recent problems with quality control over at Nvidia.
Are you guys excited by this possibilty or nervous it could be a big mis-step?

 

I think nVidia has the quality stuff figured out, it was only the 8 series that got affected by the failure stuff, due to heat.

However, I think I'd rather have Intel IGPs on the MacBooks. MacBooks run hot as hell as is, add a better performing IGP from someone who already has a reputation for GPU failure due to heat problems, and you have a recipe for disaster. They may be able to pull it off though, so it'll be interesting to see what Apple does. I'm pretty sure the number of people that go for the MBP solely for the dedicated GPU will go down if they do go for the Nvidia chipset on the MacBooks though, so I don't know.

 

rumors say that nvidia's chipset works better then intels montevina

 

On paper I think that the Nvidia chipset will be far better than intels offering, but my main concern is the quality issues, can they pull off a large production of these things without problems ??. At least with intel you can be pretty sure that they will be solid... yet boring.
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You'd think that nvidia would have identified the problem int he production line/design process and fixed it. So assuming that, new chips should be good.

Though, many many companies (laptops in general) have flaws, or defects in their products, and usually their fixed in the next generation of their products. I get it, that they usually dont happen on the WHOLE lineup of devices, but when you churn out hundreds of thousands of chips, at once, if theres a problem in the process that no one knows about, there will be problems later on when those devices are in the hands of the masses.

But yea, I'd hope that the new lineup of cards would be problem free, or atleast they'll test them like crazy, and if there are problems, they can be identified, and fixed early on in the products lifecycle, rather then having a whole lineup of cards affected.

Even though there are flaws in the current cards, a majority of users will (probably) never run into any problems with it, so yea.

 

I hope so!!!

 

I've had my graphics card fry once, and one of my friends who doesn't even play games on his laptop has now had it fry twice. courtesy of nvidia.

 

Anything but the X4500.

 

nVidia chipsets are a lot more exciting than Intel's. However, the recent ones have been failing due to the "nVidia problem". They might have solved this problem already, so the new chipsets might be okay so we hope.

-J.B.

 

What's wrong with the X4500? It certainly grants longer battery life than an NVidia option...

 

You mac guys know nothing about Nvidia or Intel's past history with integrated chipsets.

Intel has always been the one with the slower chipsets and using their copyright to prevent others from making better CPU and chipsets. It has forced Nvidia and ATI in the past to spend R&D money to reverse engineer Intel CPU + chipset communication just to put out their own competitive offering instead waiting out in the cold for Intel to supply them white papers.

Who is the more innovative chipset maker? Intel? Gimme a break..

Both Nvidia and ATI made SLI and Cross-Fire capable chipsets and pioneered the PC gaming hardware industry while Intel never had one major contribution to the PC Gaming hardware front.

Nvidia not entirely to blame for the 8 series problem because they don't make their chips they depend on TSMC to manufacture them and similar to Microsoft's Xbox 360 problems, the manufacturer is to blame primarily for most of the defects until they changed the design to make defects less impact.

I much rather have a chipset designed by anybody else but Intel who is the only true monopoly other than Microsoft.

 

PCI, AGP and PCIe were all developed by Intel. So accusing them of not doing anything for gaming would be a big mistake. Unless you prefer to connect your graphics cards using ISA slots?

You claim Intel uses a proprietary FSB interconnect between the CPU and chipset, yet you praise SLI and Crossfire which are likewise proprietary. Intel has to license Crossfire from ATI to use on their chipsets just like nVidia has to license the FSB. How is one more noble than the other.

Intel was also a major developer behind SATA, USB, DVI, and Displayport. I believe Intel chipsets were also the first to incorporate SATA, DDR2, DDR3, and soon triple-channel memory.

 

That's a broad sweeping irrelevant statement. Not to mention that there are a large proportion of recent switchers that may have built PC's for 10years and might know a lot about nvidia/ati/intel/via chipsets and there pitfalls.

Nividia has had a lot of issues in its past, poor and very late drivers for vista spring to mind.

Yes intel are large and less interesting with their design's but on the plus stability and quality are always very good.

So the point of the post was to see if apple users were more interested in quality vs speed. Not who was the "cool" company kickin' it to the man.
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i pick the "who cares" one.

i trust apple will pick the right one for the job.

 

I have three MacBook Pros and an XPS M1330 with Intel Integrated Graphics. One of the MBPs video fried and Apple fixed it for free after I argued with them for a while about it. I expect the other two will die at some point far before they should. Hopefully within the warranty period.

HP just admitted that a large number of their desktop computers have the same problem. The Inquirer says that the problem extends to 9xxx series chips. We'll find out in a year.

My XPS M1330 runs Vista just fine and has great battery life. If you go over to the Dell XPS board, you'll see lots of M1330 customers with nVidia discrete graphics complaining about high levels of heat and lots of failed graphics solutions thanks to nVidia. I don't plan on buying systems with nVidia solutions anytime soon and this includes Apple products. If they offer an ATI solution, then Apple's under consideration again. If not, well, I'll live with my current 17 inch MacBook Pro until it dies and then look at what Dell has to offer.

 

Wrong, the 7 series was affected also, and there were rumors even some of the 9 series.
Letting these issues go for three generations of a product is just unacceptable in my opinion.

No, I don't think they should, given the reason stated above, plus, apple and intel have a very close working relationship, why jeopardize that now?

 

I think that I'll just wait for Larrabee before considering new systems.

 

The Intel's new X4500 is actually quite good. It is on par with the 8400M.

Anyways, Apple now offer free logic board replacement for those who has 8600M MBP.

 

Apple will go with who ever will give them the best deal. Apple is all about making profit but that is the point of any corp. The quality of a mac book could be better but apple will never shy away from soldering everything to one board. Anyhow apple is going to go with Nvidia and it could be a blunder. I bet they will under clock the chips for better power consumption and lower heat but who cares, apple will make a good profit and there are a lot of fanboys who will buy it and not even know or care.

 

Really? That I did not know. Nvidia has been sucking it up quite a bit lately, though I'd still be interested in the MacBook whether they went Intel or nVidia.

 

I would assume that if Apple went with nvidia the first few gens would be pretty buggy