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    Running windows on Ipad2 ?

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by Laptopaddict, Jan 29, 2012.

  1. Laptopaddict

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    Is there a way to run windows on an Ipad2 keeping the battery life about the same ?
     
  2. Steven

    Steven God Amongst Mere Mortals

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    Legally, no.

    Illegally, No idea and probably not.
     
  3. P082

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    yes there is a legal way....
    just check out on-live desktop service
     
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    ?! can you elaborate ?
     
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    Ryan NBR Moderator

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    there wouldn't be any legal problem either way. there is no way to run windows on an ipad. you can possibly run an application which gives you remote access to your a PC (normally your own).

    the onlive service described above is similar- it gives you partial remote access to a PC on their network, and some personal storage to go with it.

    since these types of services depend on streaming a video feed to your ipad, it is extremely bandwidth intensive. you have to have a very fast internet connection for it to work decently. Actively transmitting data constantly over the internet is the #1 way to drain your battery, so no, the battery life will not be great using this type of system.

    Also, if you use the onlive service, you are dependent on their network being up and stable. You may have trouble if you try to log in during peak hours.
     
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    Apple iPad Gets Windows 95 Love With X86 Emulator

    OP asked about running Windows, not RDP.

    Answer to the question: no, as the battery life will be significantly shorter.
     
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    assuming the bootloader can be broken etc, later on it MAY be possible to install the ARM windows 8 on it as the a4/a5 cpu are fairly standard ARM architecture.
     
  9. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    I'm well aware. Nevertheless, a windows cloud service is more to the spirit of the question than running windows 95 emulated, which requires jailbreaking.

    Ultimately, there is no serious option.
     
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    So windows 95 works on an ARM architecture? But yeah, that is just ancient since a lot of the programs might not even work on a win 95 setup.
     
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    Not to mention the myriad of unpatched security vulnerabilities.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    and pretty much no modern software runs on windows 95...

    a lot of software has support for XP and higher. some software has support for windows 2000...

    pretty much everything has dropped support for windows 98, and I can't think of anything useful at all that runs on windows 95
     
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    1. Win95 doesn't run on ARM, it runs on a x86 emulator.
    2. You can run Win98 as well, if you want.
    3. Lots of things run on Win98, like Firefox 3.5, Skype 3.8 (the last good version, still using it), and many many more. Only those that require specific WinXP features will not work. There's no reason why you couldn't have it as a useful OS.
    4. Probably none of this is important, because running Windows on an emulator is quite sluggish. But if you want to play some Solitaire, you surely can. :)
     
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    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    Unfortunately, deprecated software tends to have security vulnerability, which you'll have to deal with on top of the whole thing being slow and cumbersome.

    I think the best way listed so far to get windows access on your iPad is through the onLive, as mentioned before... but even that isn't a great solution.
     
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    You seriously think security is an issue when running Windows on an emulator on an Ipad? LOL
    Even if the emulator had network connectivity, which it probably doesn't, are you going to use IE 6.0 to go to shady warez websites? Or do you think hackers are still targeting Win9x machines? :D
     
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    I wouldn't feel good about running windows 98 on an ipad just for the top layer. Yes, I believe those machines are still targeted, because the vulnerabilities are known and measures against them are uncommon. The types of people who still use those machines are precisely the type of people hackers would like to exploit. The jailbreak itself could certainly lead to some vulnerabilities, especially if it means you have to run an outdated version of iOS.

    In general, you would be much more secure using RDP with windows 7, or using something along the lines of onlive, mentioned previously. I'm not sure why people are pushing this jailbreak emulator thing. It's obviously not going to work decently.
     
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    First of all, no one in their right mind would target something as ancient and rare as Win98. Secondly, do you actually think someone is targeting people who run Win9x on the BOCHS emulator on an iPad and has malware specificaly created to exploit a Windows9x security flaw, then a flaw in the BOCHS emulator for iOS, and then a flaw in iOS?
    Not to mention that BOCHS for iOS doesn't even have network connectivity? :D
     
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    not the windows 95 -> emulator -> ipad chain

    just windows 95. the OP was talking about using windows on an iPad. Windows itself would not be secure. It doesn't really matter if the iPad is compromised or windows is compromised on top of the iPad. If all your working data is in the top layer, you'll need to keep that layer secured.

    Your idea of security through minority isn't that good, especially when the product used to be a vast majority. The windows 95 specific hacks have already been written. Since it hasn't received any support of any kind for a decade, those hacks certainly remain in the wild. I think you're overestimating the effort required to maintain and operate a suite of hacks and exploits over a subset of those hacks and exploits, versus finding and coding those in the first place. Completely deprecated operating systems which receive no support of any kind and were very mainstream a decade ago are probably the very worst choice for security.

    It's just one reason among many that trying to run windows 95 on an iPad is a terrible idea.

    Now, if the emulator can't even interface with the basic iPad hardware, then it doesn't even work. Before you even bother considering security, it would be nice to get basic functionality. Why you are still pushing windows 95 at this point is beyond me.

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    In fact, anything older than windows xp is totally unsupported, receives no updates or security patches, and should be avoided if at all possible. This is true when there is any need for security over your interaction with that OS, whether it's being emulated, virtualized, run natively, or being tabulated manually with rocks.
     
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    I'm not. It's it's just a proof-of-concept that it is possible, but it would be slow and not very useful.

    Although faster than tabulation...
     
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    Then I guess we agree that the answer to the OP's question is "no"
     
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    Yep.
     
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    Especially since running Windows 95 or 98 through an emulator at such a slow pace is not really "running Windows." When most people ask that question, they are at least looking at Windows XP. Anything prior to that is not really Windows in the common sense of the OS. That would be like asking if the Sega Genesis can run Linux, someone saying no, and then someone else coming out with a homebrew cartridge of a command-line driven version of Linux kernel 1.0 just trying to prove a point that it technically can be done.
     
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    i just use a remote desktop app like splashtop. it looks exactly like windows is installed on your ipad. you can even run flash on the ipad this way. In fact after using windows on my ipad i now know i would not want windows 7 on a ipad. the system wasnt made for touch and it sucks to use.