Running the iPhone 3.0 Beta

I know this isn't a cell phone forum but it IS the Apple sub-section so I don't know for a more suitable spot for it.

Anyone have the iPhone 3.0 OS up and running? I just downloaded it a couple of minutes ago and am installing it right now on my iPod Touch to play around with. I'm not sure I want to load it on my phone yet because it states it is impossible (or difficult) to go from 3.0 back to 2.2.1. I am interested in some of the phone features but I believe I will wait for the actual release.

More hits than misses in my opinion but still one feature that I wanted to become built into the "phone" page was voice dialing. Third party apps technically get the job done but I don't want to go scrolling through apps trying to find it. Landscape texting and MMS were my favorite of the announced features.

 

So move the voice dial app to the first page or even the dock.

 

I heard it was bricking people phones.

 

Why? I can go to AT&T, ask for a free phone, and have this feature. It should be built into the phone page.

 

Well if you aren't a registered developer and have your iPhone or iPod UDID registered then it will brick it immediately. Not a big deal though because you just add your device, unplug the iPhone, and plug it back in and it re-activates. I don't know what to tell you if you aren't a registered developer.

 

It's impossible to brick an iPhone.

You can ALWAYS restore it back to factory settings.

 

oh for Gods sake...

YOU CAN"T HAVE EVERYTHING YOU WANT!

 

So does that mean there won't be a death ray in the next gen iphone?


I didn't know it was the easy to unbrick a iphone, Why does everyone get scared if they brick it then?

 

Then go get your free POS phone and don't complain! Not everyone uses, or even cares about voice dialing. If that's something you wanted, but knew the iPhone didn't have when you bought, then you have absolutely no right to complain at all. Buy a product for what it can do, not what you hope it can do in the future.

 

I really have no idea if i'm honest. At any point you can plug it in and just hit restore, and it will reset the device.

I suppose you can brick it if you did something that meant that it would no longer connect to your computer when plugged in, but how the hell would you go about doing that? Jailbreaking or unlocking wouldn't damage that, so how would that be done?

Personally, i've never heard of a bricked iPhone that couldn't be simply plugged in and restored.

 

Typical Apple motto. If it doesn't have it then you don't need it.

I heard the same line of BS from all the fans about MMS as well. We didn't need it, could just use email, until of course the 3.0 beta is here and everyone can't wait for something they seemingly never actually needed...

 

don't try to make it look like you are the only fair person here and all other are biased


Khris is right-you knew that iPhone doesn't have it when buying...

everyone...well,I never used mms...also,I check lots of "apple" websites,and I haven't seen any "OMG,I can't wait for MMS!!!" can yo please show a link?

as for wanting/needing-it is impossible to satisfy everyone! f.e. I need a phone with iPhones screen and OS,keyboard and trackball of G1, 8mpix camera of new Nokias,sound of N91 and some crazy features of Japanese phones...but a phone like that simply don't exist,so I need to chose my priories and find the phone that "fits" more then others!

 

Perhaps you should go back and read what I typed because nowhere did I make any such statement as the one you're blatantly trying to pin on me.

Again, you're twisting words around to support your own pathetic argument. There are people who will NEVER use MMS, whereas others ended up using email in it's place. No one NEEDS MMS.....purely a WANT and nothing more.

Also, do you honestly think Apple is not going to put their own marketing spin on the lack of certain features? Seriously, how long have you been a consumer? The only BS here is what you're trying to spread.

 

I have 3.0 up and running! heres a video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMF8bWDMCz0

as you can see its my account because i have the studio xps unboxing in my sig

please subscribe to my youtube account!

 

Im running 3.0 on my iphone 3g it buggy i notice it running slow and requiring a restart more frequently.

 

I am a registered developer with Apple Developer Connection (iPhone Developer Program) and I have had OS 3.0 on my iPhone 3G for two days. Installing OS 3.0 was as simple as the short time and effort required for a restore. Activation was a little bit trickier, because you have to register your iPhone with its UDID on the ADC website.

So far I like it and its mostly stable and responsive. The new features are nice and they work well. Cut, copy and paste is well implemented, and the landscape views for apps like Messages, Mail, Notes, Stocks is pretty cool. I have not tried using MMS but I think most people are not able to use it yet due to issues with AT&T. The phone-wide search is very useful and the new Voice Memos app with simplistic editing/sending options works well too. The only sluggish thing is using Beejive IM. It lags a lot at times but I can resort to using other apps for a few months until 3.0 is released in the summer. I purchased Beejive IM with a gift card I received but other than it, there isnt any competition for a multiple platform well built app. With 3.0 and push notifications the new Meebo app should be very interesting.

If there are any others out there with 3.0 on their iPhones/iPod touches, is there any way to test out some of these beta 3.0 apps other devs are working on, like some sort of different section of the App Store for devs?

 

Thank you Mr. Apologist. Now please step off your high horse.

MMS or voice dialing isn't any more of a "want" than the wanting to send pictures through email. One of them happened to be built it originally.

Yeah. I'm trying to spread BS. You are right. I am so crazy to think a phone should have voice dialing. I should go buy another phone just for that feature right? That is the advice you gave me. It is a wonder LG manages to crack the voice dialing software code and get it on their free phones. Just a wonder. I'll go return my iPhone now.

 

Whatever it takes for you to stop moaning pumpkin.

Typical consumer mentality though........you finally get something you whined about, but then the tides change and then you start demanding that feature X should now be included, when that was never part of the original temper tantrum.

People will never be happy and will always find something to complain about, even the most mundane.

 

It is not that easy. For instance if you upgrade to the new 3.0 right now you cant go back to 2.2.1. Apple has this component called the Baseband in which I am not sure how it totally works. I believe it gets upgraded every time you upgrade the firmware which prevents you to go back to a earlier firmware. I upgraded to the 3.0 the other day and found out that I had to become a developer in order to get it to work. I also could not downgrade to the 2.2.1 and spent a day and a half trying. I also tried other methods which I will not mention but did not work ether cause Yellowsn0w could not integrate into the latest Baseband which is 2.30.0.3.

Anyhow I purchased the iPhone Developer Kit for $99 so that I can get my stupid iPhone to work. This is so stupid cause I think people start playing with there phones and then they get bricked and then they have no alternative but to jailbreak them. If Apple wanted to keep good on there customers they would find a way to get people to come back and use there stuff honestly and not have to be forced to use other means. Because of this fiasco, this will be that last Apple product I buy EVER.

I have 99 device slots open on my Apple Developer thingy and may help anyone having the 3.0 issue also. Just PM me and I may help you...

 

So let me get this clear, you acquired a beta, developer only release through illegitimate means and installed it without reading the consequences which "bricked" your device and you are blaming Apple for it?

I don't understand why people who don't know what they are doing actually install OS 3.0. Yes, it includes some cool (read: basic smartphone features) stuff, but it will be unstable, slow and a lot of 3rd party software won't work on it.

 

Seems to be par for the course in society today. People have an allergic reaction to accepting blame for their own actions.

Because they want to be l33t hax0rs!! You aren't really cool unless you're l33t!

 

It is true I did not read but I get board and like to play with stuff. There really is not any reason Apple needs to brick anything. I put 2.0 on my iPhone before it was out and never had this type of issue. There really is not anyone else in the industry that does that. I play around with a lot of stuff and anything that is new. I made a simple mistake but who has not. I just find apples want to control everything a little stupid. It is not that I dont know what I am doing but just wanted to know more and play with something new. There is a first time for everyone. I really dont know a lot of people who just know everything.

I will say that 3.0 is cool and all my apps do work on it. It is a little slower than 2.2.1.

 

Does anyone know if registered developers can access and test out some of the beta apps that were presented in the keynote (such as Meebo)? I would like to use some of the apps (those in 3.0 beta) that use the push notification system.