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    Rumors now say new products on 5/15/07

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by Rodster, May 14, 2007.

  1. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    Take it for what it's worth and if it's bogus don't shoot the messenger. :)

    MacBook update arriving Tuesday http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0705macbook.html

    While specifics surrounding the new models have been scarce, the pending update, as reported by Think Secret Friday, is not expected to be as substantial as the MacBook Pro update that's also waiting in the wings. The MacBook will not be adopting LED backlight displays, for example, and it's less likely they will embrace Intel's new Santa Rosa mobile platform.

    Apple is expected to introduce the new MacBook line around 8:00 a.m. ET.

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    Mac Rumors is also reporting the same thing.

    http://www.macrumors.com/
     
  2. zadillo

    zadillo Notebook Virtuoso

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    Honestly at this point I think it's basically like the "Core 2 Duo" MB and MBP rumors from last year; every Tuesday we're going to see the same "this could be the week" rumors until they actually come out.

    Apple really has done a pretty good job of shutting the lid on product leaks. It used to be that prior to a product launch there were specs leaked, spy photos leaked, etc.
     
  3. Redline

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    I guess we shall find out tomorrow morning then. And Apple usually does things in Pacific time, because they are based in Cupertino.

    Wait a second. If they aren't adding LED screens or Santa Rosa, what the hell is the point of updating them? Is it just like a spec bump moving all models to 1GB memory, or what?

    Ok, so 5 configs instead of 3. Maybe 5 colors like the shuffle :p? If they are going to add a 15" model, this would seem to be the time. Probably a black and a white in that size too. It makes sense; the iBook had a small version and a large version, so it doesn't seem too far fetched to me. And Foxconn was supposed to have gotten an order for 15" apple laptops that were not the MBP, so yea. While we are speculating, I really would like a Mac portable with 2 mouse button. That one button thing is getting on my nerves (and is keeping me from getting a MacBook).
     
  4. JM

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    Damn it! I won't be able to check the news tomorrow until 5:30pm when I get home from work!!

    I WANT A JOB IN MY STORE'S BACK OFFICE, DAMN IT!

    :p
     
  5. Redline

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    Take a break and call a friend up to ask?
     
  6. sp00n

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    Yeah, what the heck is the update then if there's no LED and Santa Rosa? :confused;
     
  7. mc511

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    maybe a small GPU like a 1300 or 7300. Hopefully
     
  8. Redline

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    I doubt it. Adding that feature would screw over the MBPs completely, thats the main reason to get an MBP over the regular MB.

    I still think the most logical reason is that they will add the 15" MBs, but that doesn't make great sense business-wise, and if they are waiting so long to release them, they might as well wait a bit longer and release them as Santa Rosa models. The MBs won't be SR because that would make them more powerful than the MBPs, which is wholly illogical. Whatever, His Steveness is determined to make us completely confused as to what he is going to do.
     
  9. mc511

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    Ya thats true.
    The gpu in the pro is the best feature. but a 15 inch model wouldnt make much sense.
     
  10. Guest

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    And you'll all go gaga whatever it is and pay waaaaaay too much money even though what you had before was fine.

    I heard that Apple is releasing a 15" iPod with a keyboard that runs Mac OS X. Its called a MacPod Pro.
     
  11. Redline

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    Uhhhh, no, I don't think so. My computer upgrade cycles happen very rarely. My last computer purchases happened in early 2003. That makes it 4 years for both desktop and laptop upgrades....I wont pay way too much money for anything, I paid less than $600 for my iMac, or about $800 less than Apple priced it at originally. I probably won't buy another Mac until we're well into OS11.

    I'm far from a Mac fanboi; I'm on my first mac since the Mac II. Its just very interesting to see what the Apple company does.
     
  12. Rodster

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    Something is happening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Apple is updating their website. Can I get a woot ! :D
     
  13. Starlight

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    Indeed, Apple Store went down at exactly noon Irish time (which is what usually happens when new products will be announced).

    Let's see what comes out...
     
  14. Rodster

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    Macrumors said we can expect five updated products today but they don't know which ones. I'm going to speculate on those.

    2 Mac Mini Core 2 Duo updates. I'll buy one today if true and I want Leopard so bad i'll buy it later.

    3 Macbook updates higher Core 2 Duo clock speeds.
     
  15. hoolyproductions

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    This better not be the LED screens on the MBP, I just bought one last week. 2.33 Ghz processor is fine for me but I'd be a little miffed if I missed out on the screens :)

    btw I am so loving my MPB :D
     
  16. tjizzzle

    tjizzzle Notebook Guru

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    Cant Wait...
     
  17. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    You have 14 days to send it back. I've read that if you upgrade to something more expensive than your original purchase there's no restocking fee.
     
  18. tjizzzle

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    lol im on the edge of my seat waiting right now
     
  19. Guest

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    This thread is soooooooo boring....what else can I do rather than continually hitting refresh on the apple store..
     
  20. hoolyproductions

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    well I got it from a reseller not from Apple so I doubt it would be so easy :)

    I'll take a stab at guessing the new machines will be able to handle 4Gb ram...
     
  21. tjizzzle

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    Lol im doing the same thing, ill only have 10 more minutes in this computer class...ill be in calculus next and wont be able to check the store to an hour and a half....hurry up apple
     
  22. Starlight

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    New Macbook on the Apple.com site now. Apple Store not up yet.
     
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    The MacBook Pro update is not expected to be unveiled until WWDC.

    All the rumors had pointed to minor updates for the time being for the MacBook, so this is in line with what was predicted.
     
  25. pennpaper

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    Hah! I'm glad I'm not the only one doing this too.

    Does this make me an Apple fanboy? A geek, even? Oh god, tell me it aint' so!
     
  26. chelsel

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    Maybe just a bad student :)
     
  27. Rodster

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    Until the Apple Store is updated this is all we got for now.

    http://www.apple.com/

    p.s. MB's look like they still sport 2gb max
     
  28. zadillo

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    Yeah, it's just the minor updates that were previously rumored; slight bumps to the hard drive and RAM amounts, nothing more.

    The significant updates will probably be later (MBP first, then MacBook later).
     
  29. JimyTheAssassin

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    wow...it really happened
     
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    Pretty disappointing to be honest. OK you can't complain if you're just about to go out and buy a MacBook you'll get a slightly higher spec.

    However it does seem like a bit of a con. Perhaps a case of Apple taking a bit of a slack attitude to prospective customers given that sales of Mac's are going so well?

    Why not just update the platform to Santa Rosa as pretty much all other laptop manufacturer's are doing? I'm guessing marketing is playing a big hand in this, they want to told back a new platform for the MBP.

    Don't get me wrong Santa Rosa overall is only a small upgrade in reality with the exception of the gpu. Given the MacBook's lack of dedicated gpu the X3000 is quite a big deal over the GMA950. There surely can't be any technical reason why the MacBook can't have Santa Rosa now? It is after all the current mobile platform being shipped by Intel.

    Anyone fancy betting that there will be another MacBook update in July with the Santa Rosa chipset and X3000? Just in time for the back to college market.

    It does get on my nerves a bit when manufacturers deliberately hold back technology from customers for little more than marketing reasons.
     
  31. Guest

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    You mean like not allowing Mac OS X on another brand?
     
  32. wrightc23

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    Fair point.

    It just seems a bit cynical to me.

    What's the point of this update? It's just a response to Santa Rosa and all the other laptop manufacturer's duly updating their platform. Apple are choosing to play games with their customers. They make a tiny tweak to their platform and pass it off as an update so as not to be seen standing still.

    Apple treat you're customers decently and given them the going technology platform.
     
  33. zadillo

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    It's just that they're not ready to update the MacBook line, and frankly there isn't a huge need anyway. GMAX3100 wouldn't make a specific difference really, and they already have wireless-n.

    Personally I appreciate that Apple puts the full 2.0 and 2.16GHz C2D CPU's in the MacBooks rather than the super-low-end ones.

    I imagine the MacBook line will get updated to Santa Rosa eventually, but I can't see any particular benefit for the people who buy MacBooks right now.
     
  34. wrightc23

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    Actually I think the x3000 is quite a big step forward over the GMA950.

    Strange that nearly every other laptop manufacturer seems to think their customers will benefit from Santa Rosa.
     
  35. zadillo

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    How is the GMAX3100 a big step forward over the GMA950? What would it enable MacBook owners to do that the GMA950 doesn't?

    Not saying it doesn't have some merit, but it isn't some dramatic leap over the GMA950, especially not on the Mac side.

    -Zadillo
     
  36. zadillo

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    That's exactly right. It's an incremental update to boost the standard specs a bit from what they're selling.

    I don't see how they're mistreating their customers. The MacBook will eventually get Santa Rosa; in the meantime though, they're at least beefing the platform up a little bit so that it's still generally in line with things.

    Also, if Apple wanted to they could ship the MacBooks with the lowest spec'd CPUs, but they instead do use the 2.0 and 2.16GHz C2D's.

    But again, what real benefit is the core Santa Rosa platform going to offer, and why does it make a real difference?
     
  37. wrightc23

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    Sorry but I get the impression that Apple are beyond any critical comments as far as your concerned.

    I wouldn't say mistreating customers is what I was suggesting. Hey I'm a recent convert to Mac's and they are much better.

    However this is just a bit cynical. Other manufacturers adjust their spec's all the time, head over to Dell's site and see the myriad of options available for their laptops. They don't bother putting a huge splash announcing an update to their laptops every time they add a minor processor option.

    As I said this is just Apple keeping up with all the other manufacturer's announcing Santa Rosa implementation this week. Apple however have just chosen the cheapest route. I assume in another few weeks we'll get another MacBook update.

    Hey fair enough Santa Rosa is no big deal in which case there's even less reason not to bump the spec to the current chipset.
     
  38. zadillo

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    Come on, I haven't said anything to say that Apple is beyond criticism. There are plenty of things they do that I think are worth criticizing; I just don't personally think this is one of them.

    I would tend to agree that featuring this in a splash on their front page is a bit much, but I don't think this is mistreating people either.

    However, Dell is probably a bad example; they actually put up a splash on their site when they added the AMD configurations for their Inspironline.

    Also, speaking of Dell, where are those Santa Rosa Inspirons?

    It's not like Apple's the only company that hasn't adopted Santa Rosa across the board yet or something.

    Not updating the MacBook to Santa Rosa isn't the "cheapest route". Apple could have probably gone cheaper by going to Santa Rosa but using lower spec'd CPU's or something (they certainly don't have to use 2.0 and 2.16 GHz C2D's in the MacBook range).

    I wouldn't expect a MacBook update in another few weeks. I'd expect the MacBook Pro update in June though, but the MacBook will probably stay where it is for the time being.

    I'm simply arguing that there isn't that much of a point yet. We've seen plenty of Santa Rosa updates from some other companies that don't make any real practical difference in consumer notebooks.
     
  39. Guest

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    The RUMOR has been that this would be a "minor" update...yet people commented endlessly on it. When thousands of people are interested in the outcome it makes sense to splash it. I was going to buy a MacBook on SATURDAY but waited until today....it's not much but I got something a little better ...will I notice? No, you can't do crap all on 13 inch screen 1280x800 but I can surf the web faster than I could last week......or not.....who cares?
     
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    Apple made $770m profit on sales of $5b. This is how they do it.

    They are the only manufacturer getting such high margins.
     
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    Well I think this update wasn't really an "update" for the MacBook, more like a "discount" but blown into a big announcement. Basically the MacBook update was just lowering the price of the MacBook (they didn't actually lower the price, but since you got more power for the same money essentially the price dropped), as in a "sale" but Apple enlarged the whole sale into a press release.
     
  42. JM

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    I hate using the phone and I don't take breaks.

    :p