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    Rumor: SB MBP's to be HOT

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by Jayayess1190, Feb 16, 2011.

  1. Jayayess1190

    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    Read Here. They all sound amazing.

     
  2. dbam987

    dbam987 wicked-poster

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    Wow, I might spring for the mbp 15 if this holds true. Thanks for the tip.
     
  3. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    I'll sell my Vaio to buy a MBP 13 if this is true.
     
  4. ATC

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    I'm gonna throw in the old "it's too good to be true" but who knows really...we'll just have to wait and see. Would love it if true.
     
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    i wonder what kinda of gpu will be used... integrated is to weak imho
     
  6. doh123

    doh123 Without ME its just AWESO

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    hopefully the 13" won't be intel graphics only...

    and also hopefully the GPUs they choose won't be seriously lacking compared to whats available...

    but more than likely, the above won't happen...
     
  7. aznguyen316

    aznguyen316 Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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    Probably paid the blog's hosting fees for the year with all the traffic that post generated. :)

    I hope he is right. Even if he is wrong, I just want Apple to release these already so that I can buy one. SB and a 2011 mid-level GPU and the same prices as last year would be good enough for me.

    Seems like every year I get worked up to buy a new MBP but get impatient and buy soemthing else that I invariably like less and sell off.
     
  9. lewdvig

    lewdvig Notebook Virtuoso

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    The 3000 IGP seems pretty nice IMO. If it reduces heat, size cost and adds battery life I would be happy with that solution in the 13" MBP.
     
  10. doh123

    doh123 Without ME its just AWESO

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    I'm sure many people would... but or an upgrade i want something thats actually faster in all situations to the 320m.. not just around the same to a bit slower. I love the 13" size, but I might end up having to go back to a 15"er eventually.
     
  11. CanadianDude

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    Wow if that battery life claim is true for the 13", I'm definitely getting that with the high res screen option. Those things will sell really well. I see the 13" models EVERYWHERE...work, school campuses, coffee shops.

    I gave a speech as an alumni at my school and in the lecture hall all I could see were those little Apple logos. At least half the people had Macs whereas 4-5 years ago I rarely saw them.
     
  12. Voodooi

    Voodooi AFK for a while...

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    Wow, Apple is starting to make their laptops more affordable. Never thought it would happen. I've always wanted one, however the prices were just too much.
     
  13. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    I think they should continue to sell their C2D White MB 13, but for $699, lots of people would buy one at that price. IMO of course.
     
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    Agreed. I'd definitely grab one for that price.
     
  15. Kaelang

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    Too bad it would never happen. :3
     
  16. Generic User #2

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    you could have just said liquid metal in the OP :p
     
  17. jecam

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    If all the rumors turn out to be true it sounds like the new MBPs will be even sexier machines. Kinda makes you wonder why anyone would buy an Air if the new MBPs become that thin and light? I might be looking to sell my Air if the MBP 13 becomes a MBA 13 with more power and battery life.
     
  18. kingp1ng

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    It's said that the Sandy Bridge's IGP performs similarly to the 320m. So I wouldn't be surprised if Apple just used that. I couldn't imagine anyone fitting a mid-range graphics card in that chassis!! That would be insanely hot. *bad pun*

    I'm interested more in the 15''. However a thinner chassis means NOT i7 QUAD CORE. :(
    Quad core can now have switchable graphics so I wish Apple could include a quad core model.
    Interesting... I'd say.
     
  19. AboutThreeFitty

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    That MBP 13 is screaming my name. Anyone have an idea on when they're coming out. Spring"ish"?
     
  20. dbam987

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    The rumor-mill is that March 1st will be the day apple unleashes new laptops.
     
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    AboutThreeFitty ~350

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    Wow. I thought the Intel mess up would have pushed the release way back. Good to hear and I can't wait to see how they turn out.
     
  22. yuio

    yuio NBR Assistive Tec. Tec.

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    the intel mess up only affect SATA ports 2-5. 0, and 1 are fine... as well I think the mobile version where not affected.

    I've also heard March 1st... my buddy at apple won't tell me anything... dang.

    look nice... don't think it's worth upgrading from my current i5 MBP tho. if htey had replaced the CD drive with a larger battery and got 15-16hours on the 15 inch I'd be interested. oh well! looks like a nice upgrade to there lineup!
     
  23. Falle4ngel

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    I'm sure it's feasible to have integrated + discrete graphics on the MBP 13. Just don't expect any miracles. At most, you'd get a 420m or 520m which isn't massively better than the 320m. Maybe a 20% difference.

    It seems a huge step back to just rely on intel's integrated GPU as it represents no improvement from the 320m except battery life. Especially with Apples shift in focus to gaming and apps, I believe it's highly probable they went with another low TDP GPU. Whether it is for marketing sake or for the fact that no improvement in GPU would be a let down.
     
  24. Rachel

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    The 13" MBP and 15" MBP sound pretty impressive. The 15" MBP is definetly interesting to me. I own a 11" ultraportable and that provides me all the battery life i need. I do prefer 13" desktop notebooks because they allow for greater portability if i need it. I could also possibly decide (not planning on it now though but you never know) to only have one notebook and then i'll be stuck with a 15" notebook which is not ideal for travel for me.

    Anyway, the 15 in MBP seems like it will be pretty light. Also, it will possibly have an expresscard slot which will allow me to use an expresscard 3g modem.
     
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    I understand the SB integrated graphics are a good jump, does anyone know if it should be feasible to run OSX on it ? I read something about OpenCL would limit the user of this.

    Would be interesting as could cut down price of White MacBook with just intel graphics and have same sized MacBook Pro with upgrade to 320m.

    If they can do reasonable (5-8k 3dmark06) gpu in 13 form factor without impacting heat or battery too much I'll be very happy
     
  26. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    Intel GMA 950 is powerful enough to run OS X, I think SB IGP should be a plenty :)
     
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    I'll wait for the reviews to come out, after all Apple's products tend to overplay their marketing, but if the specs are true... it's going to have a pretty nice laptop.
     
  29. aznguyen316

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    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    I'm excited to see if they have Light Peak ports!
     
  31. di1in

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    i hope to see some style changes.. i would'nt like the sharp front edge cutting into my wrists
     
  32. electrosoft

    electrosoft Perpetualist Matrixist

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    So very true. When I was using a T9800 and T9900 17" Uni last year, those edges were very noticeable. Not on the level of the Precision M6400/M6500's emo slashers, but still uncomfortable for those who type with our forearms/wrists down. :(
     
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    So they will stop using aluminum, and use some new alloy? That makes me suspicous about this rumor.

    One thing is for sure though. They haven't abandoned their business model. Most likely, if you want a decent videocard, you are forced to pick the most expensive model as usual.
     
  34. Kaelang

    Kaelang Requires more Witcher.

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    Why suspicious?
    Apple did buy rights to LiquidMetal last year I think. It's only logical that they would use it. Besides, aluminum is a terrible metal to use. If they replace it, I'd be far more willing to get a MBP.
     
  35. kingp1ng

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    ^
    I thought aluminum was a great metal to use for laptops. It's lightweight, strong, malleable, and a poor heat conductor. It has a high melting point and resistant to corrosion. I don't know what you're saying...

    Plus aluminum is cheap. Apple probably spend millions of dollars in R&D on this new liquidmetal. I'm actually surprised that the price is going to be lower.
     
  36. Generic User #2

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    well, technically, apple didn't invent the material. they bought the company that did. go look it up.

    everyone should realize how much apple likes to be 'unique'. having liquid metal, even if more expensive, helps their image. which is FAR more important than profits for them(although directly related).
     
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    They didn't buy the company. Just the right to use it on their laptops.

    Remember those little pins Apple use to give to eject the SIM car from the iPhone? That was liquid metal. Try bending one.
     
  38. Kaelang

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    The aluminum Apple uses is more akin to lead than aircraft grade. It's gotten better recently, but still not anywhere as good as other metals that they could use if they wanted to make a machine durable. On the surface, it seems strong, but people have bent them by just picking them up.
     
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    they bought exclusive rights to the patents.

    are there any videos of this?? i have NO idea how that can happen... cardboard doesn't even bend just by picking it up....
     
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    First of all they use an alloy of aluminum, since it's very reactive. While aluminum alloys range greatly in quality, as stated the aluminum alloy that MBs use are terrible. You also need to review your chemistry, since aluminum conducts heat VERY well (100+ times better than water). Not really sure how you figure malleable is a good feature since it's more prone to scratches. Not really sure how melting point is really relevant either.
     
  42. di1in

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    the aluminium results in the body acting as a large heatsink, hence we require lower rpm fans
     
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    That would be great if you wanted to burn someones thigh. The cooler on the MBP are heatpipes attached to a heatsink, not to the case. Heatsinks are insulated from the case with plastic. People don't want a hot laptop.
     
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    Except when it gets to 85c and the cooling policy doesn't ramp up fan speed on its own, then you have to manually do it.

    Not to mention the excessive discomfort of using a giant heatsink for a computer.
     
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    Personally i found aluminum as a bad conductor, first because is a poor metal (very close to metalloids which have very poor conductivity) in contrast to titanium which is a really good conductor. I base this argument in the periodic table.

    I think titanium's powerbooks were better in this but the disadvantage is that acts so well that heats a lot the case (like what happened some time ago with those models and logic board failing from excessive heat).

    Everything has his Pros and Cons, in this case the aluminium mbp which have very good design but are not very good for thermal conductivity.
     
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    These rumours seems insane.. If the MacBook Pro 13" will be that light, with Intel Core i5 2nd Gen and featuring switch-able graphics, 1440x900 screen with anti-glare option along with an improved iSight / Facetime camera I'll toss my MacBook Pro 17" 2010 model out the window right away.
     
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    Yeah I mean at that price ($1500), itd better have all those things. I would think that the base model at 1199 is lower res at 1366X768 or whatever and the higher at 1400 with some antiglare option. Also predicting that the base will have like a small 32gb SSD + second HDD while the newer one will also have dual harddrives but bigger 128gb+320gb or something.
    Highly doubt a 13" with switchable graphics though.Think theyre gutting it and taking the optical drive out for the extra battery cells and a second HDD if they go that route.
     
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    The rumors are insane. The new MacBook Airs just came out in October and those are the guinea pigs for what's to come for the MacBook Pro family. Most likely what will happen is Apple will roll out there yearly spec bump and the MBP 13 will finally have a Core i processor and all MBPs will have Sandy Bridge processors and improved graphics. It makes more sense for the shift to lighter and instant-on MBPs for when Lion comes out to make them easier to carry and better for finger-friendly interaction with all the new iOS features that will be incorporated into Lion.
     
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    the weight shown on bestbuy screenshot is 5.3lbs for a 13" mbp.. isn't that higher than now?
     
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    Where do you see that?

    link?
     
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