One good thing about having a Mac...

If you're having trouble with Verizon internet services.... you can call and say "Mac OS" when asked about your operating system. Then you'll get forwarded to US based support instead of Indian based support.

 

ohhhhh nice lol that's funny

 

Haha, good one.

Mac >>> PC in terms of call centre service I guess!

 

....and I guess that's about it.


Sorry, I couldn't resist your title.

LOL!!!!

 

lol, actually when I seen the title I figured it was going to say that when I entered the topic

 

haha No comment

 

BBWWWWAHHHHAAHAAAHAAHHAHA
That's funny

 

Love mac~ keep it up!

 

Haha, that's nice to know! I find Indian call centers very annoying, absolutely no offense to Indians, but yeah, its hard to understand their language and its not their fault.

"Hi, this is (Indian call center, insert person) speaking."
"I use a Mac."
"Mac? Mac what?"
"A Mac."
"McDonalds?"

 

Haha, Sam. That's good.

At least my mom can understand them (She grew up there as a missionary kid).

 

I went to class this evening and somebody in the back had a Dell. In the front was a MBP. The MBP made the annoying start up noise and that was it. Silence from then on. The Dell never shut up. It played a triumphant sound meant to convey the sheer magnificence of getting all that bloat loaded into RAM. Then it played sounds for this event and that event with the poor user apologizing at each event. I thought about going back there to show her how to click the task bar and mute the speaker but decided against it. I didn't have my MB with me but mine would have been one of the silent ones and unlike Windows, I don't have to mute my entire system to keep it from embarrassing me in public.

On the topic of tech support, an advantage of a Mac is Comcast doesn't have any lame software to shove down my throat whenever I have problems. They get real quiet when I tell them I've got Mac and Linux machines.

 

Well, I'm sure you realize that one isolated incidence doesn't prove any superiority; one of my acquaintances has a Mac, and doesn't know how to use it, so he asks me stuff like where he can download CAD for his Mac, and I just have to laugh.

Besides, my Dell doesn't make noises except when I want it to. So there.

 

My ISP provided a bunch of bloatware as well. It was just a reskin of IE6 and a quicktime slideshow of how awesome Optimum Online is (yes, they market their services to people who are already customers, I get promotions for their internet in my @optimum.net email).

 

Out of curiosity, why are you installing your ISP's bloatware?

They don't make you install it... they just want to make you think you have to. Verizon's like... oh hey, install this stuff on your machine. You're internet won't work without it! right...

But r0k... my boss had a funny story similar to yours. He goes to a lot of the really big programmer conventions. He was at Java One sometime back and was in a big conference meeting and someone had their Windows machine make it's start up noise. Everyone looked at him like WTF... Windows for programming GTFO. then again... most everyone there had a Mac

 

That guy could have disabled the startup noise and warning sounds (thats what I did with XP). Thanks for reminding me, I just disabled all of my annoying windows sounds.

 

The very first thing I do when I install windows on any machine is to navigate to control panel>>Sounds>>set my profile to No Sounds. Click apply. Done.

BTW. If you are in public and need to restart your mac you can stop the mac start-up sound by muting your speakers before you shutdown or restart. Next time mac OS boots, you won't have to scare everybody with that distinctive start-up noise.
Its like this on my iMac at least.

 

This does not work on any Mac I have used.

I generally have my speakers muted, and sometimes it will still make the noise. I wish I could just delete the audio file

 

Um there are several CAD programs for Mac, just because AutoDesk doesn't choose to make a Mac version doesn't make all other CAD programs laughable, so there to you!

Just gotta love it when the PC fans (especially Dell owners) get all defensive anytime Macs get some sort of praise.

 

everytime i turn over a dell or whatever pc laptop and look at the bottom it reminds me of the moon's surface, fcking craters everywhere. Turn over a mac its completely smooth hahah

 

So true and so hilarius.

 

The sound debate is bordering on silly.

It is possible to turn off sound both on a mac and on a pc. I was not drawing attention to the inability to turn off sound. I was commenting on the ability for any Windows app that comes along to register dozens of annoying fart noises for itself and make an astounding racket against the users' wishes along with the tendency of the average default windows setup to be noisy while the default mac load is relatively quiet.

Of course, the fart noises can happen on a mac. Skype made all sorts of stupid sounds when I was calling a friend in Japan earlier. I have to remember to go to skype preferences and shut all that stuff up. Check.

In this sounds debate, I assert that the default configuration of Mac is relatively quiet and the default configuration of Windows is relatively noisy. Both platforms allow you to change these settings but I find it to be a lot easier on the mac. I bet I could even get rid of that single solitary mac startup sound if I try hard enough. Yep. I could.

The default set of UI sound effects on the Mac consists of about 20 sounds all of which are less than half a second in duration and none of which make you jump. They remind me of the alerts in a hospital setting that are designed to let the staff know something needs attention without making the patients think a thermonuclear war has been declared. Somebody at Apple put some serious thought into what a pc should sound like and I agree with all of their default choices (with the exception of the startup sound). I wonder who would get mad at me if I posted the calm mac sounds and that cacophony of sounds that ships with windows. Listening to the mac set would calm you and the pc set would annoy you. On the windows side, it seems the designer was asking himself " what sounds cool" so you get breaking glass and mortar shells and screeching tires. On the mac side, the designer was asking " what sound would I want my machine to make around other people in this situation" so you get a quiet chime and a subtle click.

Ok now I'm gonna contradict myself and say one aspect might be considered easier on windows. Windows has all the system sounds in a single control panel spot but on the mac I had to go to skype to put a muzzle on all of Skype's silly noises. Not much of a sacrifice in the big scheme of things.

Ok somebody has already done quite a bit of work comparing the 2 sets of sounds... here...

 

I found a good use for the iPhone too.

Was at the mall today (yeah I know, I didn't WANT to be there) and they have 2 Verizon booths, 2 T-Mobile booths, and 2 Sprint booths. Each time you walk by one some idiot tries to get your attention.

As soon as you start walking by, flash the iPhone like a badge and they won't say a word to you. Makes things a little more peaceful

 

I didn't say there weren't any other Mac alternatives, but it was just particularly funny because he had read about this CAD alternative program, and was trying to find a download; I did, and it said on the download page that it was for Windows only.

As far as defense of PCs, I think this is a perfectly valid case of defense, because the praise of Mac was not very well-founded. As I have tried to point out, it's easy for me to say my PC is better because of some Mac user's incompetence or ignorance, and you don't allow me to push that as a valid reason....so I'd prefer you didn't push some user's inability to turn of his sounds/speakers as a praise of Mac. Savvy?

 

Many Mac users are also quick to point out all for flaws of PCs and state the Superiority of Macs. Got to expect some sort of counterargument

 

Yeah. But also look at how much Apple's have changed, as well as the users. There are a lot more normal mac users then there were a few years ago. You don't have as many that are "Mac or nothing!" kinda fanatics. That job has been given to the Linux fanatics (who generally... don't really know much about linux lol).

With Macs, there is a lot of myth behind them. Both from the evangelists and the haters. I can't say how many times I've seen a non mac user posting on here about how Macs have this and this problem... IE the battery expanding issue... That only happened with a short set of batteries that were made by Sony. Apple was criticized pretty harsh, I think harsher than anyone else, and they were hardly the only ones experiencing that problem.

Apple has a bad rep for evangelists... and people hate evangelists So there is such a hate relationship between normal users (from the pc world) and mac fanatics. So thats bred such contempt and any problem, no matter how minor, is often exploited and attacked more and worse than if the problem came up under another manuf.

Dunno though... I don't see too many evangelists anymore. Not many people see the Mac as perfect anymore. Which is a good thing :-D

 

Well I'm sure the next time you and your friend download something together off the web your PC will install a useless unwanted browser toolbar by default because it's "Windows Only" while his Mac won't. I guess he'll find it laughable towards you at that point.
Next time read "MY" post carefully before you get accusatory, I didn't mention anything about the Mac startup sound, that was a different poster.

 

I know that If I was downloading something off the internet, I would take the time to read what is installed. useless toolbars are easily avoided by unchecking a box. Not to mention most legit downloads won't install useless toolbars.

 

I have never had an unwanted toolbar installed. I fail to understand your jab.

I read your post, and I wasn't accusing you of saying such a thing, but only explaining my reply to the post you seemed to be defending.

 

Would anyone care for cookies? They're Apple shaped but I assure you they taste good and they aren't poison. No, that's frosting. That's not a toolbar, that's frosting. Haven't you heard? There are no Apple toolbars because the web browser isn't always running as root.

 

Eheheheheeee. Funnies.

 

I think it is a good point that while the sounds are customizable, the default sounds in Windows XP are especially annoying and obnoxious. Fortunately, in Vista the default sounds are much, much nicer.

I think there are still just as many fanatical Mac zealots... but there are more "normal" users now too... it's not like fanatics only anymore.

Yeah. And if I install iTunes for Windows, it'll even try to install a whole unwanted web browser.

So many Windows programs install browser toolbars by default unless you uncheck it (Yahoo IM and Adobe Reader among others) that it's easy for careless or novice users to forget to uncheck it and end up with unwanted toolbars.

 

LOL You don't need an iPhone to do that becuase I always just say "I'm from Canada"
Seems to have to same effect

 

Haha, thank goodness its not as bad here in Canada . At least in Vancouver!

 

Too true, but I don't use either of those. I use Foxit Reader and Pidgin.