New Macbook Pro 15" screen showing Yellowish from angle viewing

I went out tonight to buy a new Macbook Pro. I currently have a macbook but had wanted to upgrade to the new MacBook pro 15". I went to 3 different Apple shops here in Taipei and tested the new Macbook Pros. I found that all new Macbook pros with the 15" screen look great when you look at them directly but upon looking at them from an angle you will see that they white background tunrs very yellowish (Especially the bottom half). This was consistant on all new MacBook Pros and the new Imacs as well. This issue did not exist on all the new Macbooks though.

I find this issue abnormal. The salesmen in the Apple Shop were also surprised when I noted this problem to them and agreed with me taht this does look like it is an issue or problem with the new LED screens. This problem can best be seen or noticed with Apple's on Advertisement Video Ads which use the two men and where the background in the advertisement is pure white. You will see that the background is white as you stand in front of teh Macbook looking athe LED Display but upon moving to its right or left and looking at it from an Angle you will see that the screen has major problems as yellowish spots appear everywhere on the screen.

Any thoughts??

 

Mine does that, not really worried since on some LCD when you look at it from that angle you can't see anything. My Samsung get's a pink/purpley colour when I look at it from the same angle. It's just they way LCD's are.

 

.... that is normal. all LCD does that. you will also see that colours begins to invert when you view the screen at an angel.

 

Maybe LCD should be renamed to LUCD(Liquid Urine Crystal Display)
When I look at my p7811fx's screen it looks a tad yellowish. Fine with me

 

welcome to the world of TN LCD panels

 

IPS LCD panels are pure and accurate from all angles. On the otherhand, TN LCD panels change colors at extreme angles.

 

I don't think it is normal. This is not an issue on the old and new Macbook but only the Macbook Pros 15" and Imacs. I also looked at many Asus,sony and Acer laptops and they didn't have this problem. This is a problem. If you look into this issue closely you will see that it is a problem. When I posted this on the Apple Discussion Forum it was removed and I received a PM from Apple about this. I think Apple now knows that this is an issue and didn't want this to become a big deal on their discussion Forum leading to a recall for Apple.

 

All LCD panels discolor when viewed off angle. Some discolor more so than others. TN panels typically have the worst viewing angles while IPS panels typically have the best. All notebook LCD panels are TN and are typically inferior to LCD panels in desktop monitors and TVs. A few years ago, both ASUS and Lenovo offered IPS panels in their notebook linup but no one bought them . As there seems to be little motivation for notebook manufacturers to put anything but TN panels in their notebooks, for the time being, if you wish for color accuracy, get an external monitor.

 

So Apple uses IPS panels in their Macbooks and TN panels in their Macbook Pros?

 

Did you see this story before on Gizmodo? Look at the two screens om the Macbooks. Something is wrong big time.

http://gizmodo.com/5063492/macbook-and-macbook-pro-dual-review

 

When it comes to the screen, the Macbook has one of the worst screens I've seen on any notebook. The black levels are bad and the viewing angles are even worse...

 

No, they just use higher quality TN panels in the MBA/MBP. This is well known, and has been described since the release of the latest gen MB/MBP when then were compared to the older versions. That's why the price is still less for the MB than the other notebooks in the lineup. The LED screen on the current MB is better than the old CCFL MB, however.

The biggest way to tell a TN from IPS panel visually is to look at vertical viewing angle, with IPS holding colors regardless of the viewing angle.

The above example jpg's illustrate the concept, but distort the truth to some extent as the difference observed is greater than what you'll see in real life.

The LED MB screen is still better than most of what you can get in the rest of the PC market for LCD screens - but there's a reason why the cost of the MBP and MBA is higher than the MB..... higher quality comes at a price

 

extreme angles? you are describing the mva/pva screens?

TN are horrible even if you don't sit the way you adjust the screen last time...

vertical viewing angle is the bane to all TN

 

When I compared the Macbook and Macbook pro at the Apple shops I found that the Macbook had a better screen. This is on the new Macbooks. The viewing angle on the Macbooks seemed better than the viewing angle on the
15" Macbook Pros.

 

Do viewing angles on laptops really matter that much. You are usually the only one using the screen and you can tilt your screen until the colors are look right anyways.

If colors and viewing angles are that important, you just have to hook you laptop up to an better external display. There's no way around this since almost all laptop screens these days use TN panels.

Loving how I see a new range of colors every time a tilt my screen to a new angle.

 

no they are not im afraid. even IPS and MVA panel changes colour at extreme angle. the colours tend to invert slightly, or get wash out slightly, altough it is very very minimal relative to the TN panel.

ummm.... NO! the new macbook viewing angle is still not up to par with the old MBP. what you might be seeing is the improved contrast offered by the glossy screen.

i also would like to say that not all TN panel is the same.

 

some laptops... like the old MB has viewing angle so bad, that you never really get a sweet viewing spot. even with a screen that small.

 

Wow I feel sorry for you guys with a 0 degree of useful viewing angle. I didn't know they got this bad.

 

I'm just pointing this out as you don't see this problem on the Acer's and Asus laptops. Even on the old Macbooks (My current Macbook) this problem doesn't exist. For such a high end laptop I would have though that the screen would have been better. I'll have to try and go back to the Apple shop and take some pictures of what I am talking about.

My guess is tha they used a cheaper panel and added a glass screen or what ever on the outside to make it look better while in fact the LED or what ever panel is on the inside is actually a low end panel. From what I understand also is taht if anything goes wrong with it that whole back section has to be replaced as one part from Apple and costs something $700+ to have replaced as it will only be replaced as one part or 1 piece

 

I agree, I find it surprising that even my Asus eeePC 1000h seems to have better viewing angles then my friend's Macbook. You don't have to believe what I said, just put them side by side and compare them yourself.

Most people tend to use their laptop in all sorts of positions and odd angles like on the couch, in bed or on their laps so I believe viewing angels does play a factor.

 

I don't know about you Jiten but I've never been caught in a position where if the colors looked off because of the viewing angles I haven't been able to adjust it to make it right again.

 

If you look at my first post and compare the screens on the Macbooks with the videos I mentioned you will see very clearly what I am talking about.

 

I went through three last-gen MacBooks with this problem and concluded that it wouldn't get better. Sad to see that the displays in the current MacBooks still are so bad, considering that it still costs a fair amount of money. The design of the display hinge limiting the tilting angle of the screen doesn't help either (although it has supposedly gotten better with this generation by 10-15 degrees)

 

I'm looking forward to the day when OLEDs take over and the days of feeling like you just won the lottery if you got a good LCD are over.

 

Ooops. What I meant to say was IPS screens hold their color very well at basically all viewing angles. TN screens have narrower viewing angles and inverted colors.

For reference, I have dual 8-bit H-IPS-panel LCD displays for my desktop. The colors and contrast hold up even at viewing angles almost parallel to the display. If the colors do invert at those viewing angles, it is very difficult for me to tell.

I cannot say the same about the TN panels on my notebooks.

 

I wonder if this is why the screens looked yellowish??

http://www.macrumors.com/2008/12/10/newest-macbook-pro-nvidia-chips-potentially-faulty/

 

I thought I remember reading somewhere recently that with the new LED screens, Apple changed the default gamma or something else in screen properties on the new MacBooks and MBPs, which resulted in a warmer tone to the screen colors - this can easily be interpreted as yellow.

Can't remember where I came across that, however.

 

Easiest way to know is to find the internal LCD # from Color Profile. Keep going through it until you see a line with 9cxx. Anyway the new MacBook has a much crappier screen than the new MBP IMO. I checked out a couple of the new MBP and they were decent. The MacBook with the 9c89 screen suffers from color inversion even at a little deviation on the viewing angle. I am not too picky about viewing angle however the new MacBook's was just unbearable.

 

That's odd when I went over the screens comparing the Macbooks and the Macbook Pros 15", I along with the employees at apple found that the Macbooks had a better screen than the Macbook Pros 15" The Macbooks had no yellowish tone when viewed from an angle but the white on the Macbooks was not as white as the macbook Pros 15" screen. The white on the Macbook Pros 15" screen looked better when looking directly at it as it was a whiter white.

 

So wouldn't that make it a better screen? Go by colours being displayed and how they look, not what colour it turns when you look at it from a angle like every other LCD.

 

i think the screen washout problem improved by a bit last time i check the new macbook.. wasnt playing close attention to it, i was playing around with the new MBP.

 

The screen on the MBP is way better than on the Macbook. The contrast ratio's and black levels are much better. I can easily see it and it is confirmed with objective measurements done by Notebookcheck.net and Notebookjournal.de

I've owned a late 2008 Macbook and vertical vertical viewing angles were bad. Just moving my head could invert colors on the tab bar of Safari.