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    New MBP with Adobe CS4 slow?!

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by pampas, Nov 26, 2008.

  1. pampas

    pampas Notebook Consultant

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    Just received my new MBP, 2.8 Ghz cpu and all the rest, and after installing the CS4 I just bought I find it's not that fast .. actually just creating a brand new blank image at 800x600 and drawing a simple filled rectangle is bad enough. Everything looks smooth until I try to move the rectangle. Remember, nothing else on this image (and no other images open, no other software running). When I try to move the rectangle there is a very feelable lag. Is this something the Mac does ? I never encountered this issue over the Windows side (on other weaker laptops), well maybe after having a tons of objects/layers on the image.
    I would like to stay with Leopard (since I paid the CS4 for MAC), is there anything I can do to fix this problem? :mad:
     
  2. d4m

    d4m Notebook Enthusiast

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    did you select the 9600m gt card in your settings? i think you have to put it on high performance (can't recall)
     
  3. Xirurg

    Xirurg ORLY???

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    have you tried reinstalling?
     
  4. count_schemula

    count_schemula Notebook Deity

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    CS4 uses the video card now for moving images around.

    Like F4m said, make sure the video is set up for performance. You can run the new MBPs with either just the integrated video, or with integrated video and the video card. I think they phrase it in terms of battery life though.
     
  5. cdnalsi

    cdnalsi Food for the funky people

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    Let me know how it goes after you switch in System Prefs > Energy Saver > Higher Performance.

    I'm interested in getting Photoshop CS4 as well...
     
  6. pampas

    pampas Notebook Consultant

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    I already am on Higher Performance. I know CS4 uses the video card, but I do not see any benefits. I was hoping with just the CPU alone it will be just fine, since it's 2.8Ghz. It's decent, just not as fast as running on Vista (with the same laptop). But it's usable, for sure.
     
  7. hydrocyanic

    hydrocyanic Notebook Evangelist

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    sure you can run mbp in SLI mode?? last time i read differently

    a dumb question... do you have your battery in your laptop? performance hit is 47percent without (mentioned in endgadget and various sources)
     
  8. count_schemula

    count_schemula Notebook Deity

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    Good call.

    http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=2243

    Well, still, just using the video card, the CS4 behavior is kinda different than with CS3. For instance, when zoomed in on a large image, and you scroll with the hand tool, the image kinda glides and slides to a stop. To me, that does feel slower than previously where the image seemed to move in a more direct fashion.
     
  9. hydrocyanic

    hydrocyanic Notebook Evangelist

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    link is remove cuz i can't post any

    what the link means in layman terms:
    "we are apple and we would want you to stick with our silly mac OSX, if you happen to like windows, you screwed in the following areas:
    -shorter battery life with smaller size battery
    -shorter battery life without an option to use the onboard card
    -yes we have 2 video cards but you stay with one because: we are apple, and we did not have time to develop software/driver for SLI so you are more screwed even on windows

    thanks for reading, and hey, we are APPLE :p

    * i am not saying windows is better when say osx is silly, they are good to each of its own
     
  10. cdnalsi

    cdnalsi Food for the funky people

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    ^ what the hell was the point for that?

    Jesus I'm so getting sick of people like you.
     
  11. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    its a mac. it runs windows natively, but its not built for it. its built for the mac OS.
     
  12. pampas

    pampas Notebook Consultant

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    Yes, I do have the battery inside, I do not ever remove it :)
    It's still slow, as someone else said I have the feeling the CS4 is slow. I didn't find any other updates to do, all my software is up to date.
     
  13. count_schemula

    count_schemula Notebook Deity

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    I use CS4 on my MBP, no issues. The zoomed in image scroll is a little "different" ad Dreamweaver still amazes with it propensity to throw up beachballs, but otherwise... I find CS4 to a fairly tight upgrade.
     
  14. hydrocyanic

    hydrocyanic Notebook Evangelist

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    - is it difficult to implement SLI solution from apple's perspective? adding 50dollars (with mark up and all) should do the trick and no one would notice the price jump due to SLI-enable for better performance, besides having a possibility of adding a patch on every software apple has to support SLI that will guarantee a delay in launch of the new apple, what is the difficulties? cost isn't an issue since R&D will pay off when they implement such solution on all computer

    - is it difficult to make 9400m enable in windows?

    - is it difficult to fit a larger battery with the brick manufacturing method that is proposed to be lighter, more durable and advance to make?

    besides "it is apple", there is no other reason

    it is not to say i dislike apple, but that is like lowering their own hardware sales to protect from being consumed by MSOS on apple setup, which many people would due to "easier" to work with under windows

    i am not even being judgmental about it, cuz i am fine either way

    [not making a real quote] _____(if you are religious) I'm so getting sick of people like you(apple isn't something to worship) [/not making a real quote either]

    lighten up, stevo isn't going to be mad if you don't defend apple too

    back to the topic:

    would it be the case that you are expecting too much?
     
  15. circa86

    circa86 Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    why do so many people feel the need into making nearly every single thread in this forum into a PC/Mac thing?

    CS4 is significantly faster on all machines i have run it on, and should run just fine on your MBP, it works perfectly on my roomates MBP 2.8, 4gb machine.

    make sure you haven't done anything within the performance preferences. the default settings should be good.

    I would recommend reinstalling your Adobe applications, and make sure to restart and do all the normal troubleshooting.

    you shouldn't be having any issues, it is most likely an issue with your install, make sure to not move thing around after you have installed your apps.

    there is a new feature built in, a physics based thing, that allows you to "toss" the view around, it could just be the way you are using it as well.
     
  16. hydrocyanic

    hydrocyanic Notebook Evangelist

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    what i've said isn't even related with PC/mac, but instead apple, as a pioneer in PC(it is personal computer, it is intel based so hey, it is pc), superb marketing and product position and all-in-one solution product firm...

    my disappointment isn't even software-based, but the way apple's protectionist approach, and heck, adobe isn't even windows/mac bond anyways, why do mac-fans would automatically assume it is a power struggle? have you lost too much of it? don't frame it like one please?

    it was a joke for god(whichever, whoever's) sake, lighten up? or at least be more serious in response than a fanboy-ish one?


    ps. i am sorry about hijacking this thread, this is the last response about this non-sense and any further post in this thread will be on topic.

    i just can't stand hot headed people worshipping steve :p
     
  17. pacmandelight

    pacmandelight Notebook Deity

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    I heard Photoshop CS4 is better on Windows than on Mac OSX. It had to do something with Adobe not able to code all the features to Carbon (due to Apple changing plans) and Mac users will have to wait for CS5 and Cocoa.
     
  18. pampas

    pampas Notebook Consultant

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    I did move the application into ADOBE folder, cause I didn't like having like 20 icons into my Application folder all spreaded around. So, new folder called Adobe, and just moved all icons into it that belongs to Adobe.
    When I start anything from within Adobe the system will see it's been moved and it will ask to fix it, and then it will start the app.
    Is this something to slow down the CS4? If so, how come?
     
  19. rirawin

    rirawin Notebook Consultant

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    Really?

    Man might have to rethink about getting a Macbook Pro now, CS4 and A.E are my primary focus next to playing some odd games.
     
  20. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    @OP

    You might try the Cleanscript from Adobe. Might help?
    http://www.adobe.com/support/contact/cs4clean.html

    Yes this is very true. No 64bit support in CS4 for OS X. I don't think this is the cause of the OPs issue but there are a few things in CS4 that make me roll my eyes at Adobe and conversely at Apple as well.

    The GPU support in CS4 is mildly amusing but hardly worthwhile for any serious image work on batches of large files. It will choke and you will be shutting it off after a handful of images are on your desktop. A step in the right direction but we are not there yet.

    CS4, especially on the Mac, is just more proof of Adobe's relentless assault of pointless "new features" to sell their overpriced suite. If you have CS3, the upgrade is not worth it imo.