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    New 2016 MB Pro Graphics Card

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by Trigger10, May 25, 2016.

  1. Trigger10

    Trigger10 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Been reading up on the new rMBP that's scheduled to come out later this year. Looks like it's slated to get an AMD 400 Polaris Chip as the discreet graphics card. Anyone have any insight into what equivalent that is to Nvidia's mobile line? What kind of performance do we think this will provide to the laptop for gaming?
     
  2. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    bruh...
     
  3. darkloki

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    If this is true then I suppose I have in fact purchased my last Macbook Pro... I'm tired of dealing with AMD's driver support. If I'm dropping 2+ grand on AMD garbage I might as well get a gaming laptop with an Nvidia 970m even though I'm only a casual gamer.

    Cody GFX status is one of a number of reasons as to why I prefer Nvidia. I said it in a previous thread i'll say it again, there is a reason why AMD's stock is currently valued at $4 messily dollars per share compared to Nvidia's $40 per share...

    Apple only went with AMD because if the low price on parts/contract they have with AMD while charging their loyal customer base a premium. Nvidia knows what they have and they also know they don't need to rely on console gaming or apple systems to generate revenue unlike some other companies out there...
     
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    You are looking in the wrong place for this... mid range cards are meh at best for gaming, probably low-medium settings. Macbooks all come with low-mid rage graphics cards.

    You know there is more to graphics cards than just for gaming. Anybody that needs to do compute work/GPGPU calculations knows that any AMD card will absolutely roast any nvidia non-quadro counterpart card with little effort (see 7970M rendering work vs GTX 980M rendering work...it is laughable how nVidia gimps their cards...). Your narrow scope blinds you from comprehending holistic utility of graphics cards.
     
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  5. darkloki

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    Why again would I care about something that I don't do? And further-more do you want to explain that to investors, because I'm sure they'd love to hear that so that they could re-evaluate the company and see what they are all missing out on because last I checked I see the following: which is the definition of "Laughable"

    I personally own about 300+ shares of Nvidia which I've owned since '14 within my portfolio, which has created this narrow scope you believe I have, but if a company gained you nearly 10 grand wouldn't you too be jaded? You telling me I should have bought AMD instead? How many shares of AMD do you own? and how's that working out for you?

    But hey at least 7970M rendering work is better then GTX 980M rendering work.... Cause that's really important when comparing Company A to Company B...

    AMD's 5 year is so damn impressive, darn I should have bought it in '14:

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    Year over Year:

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    I wasn't targeting YOUR work purposes, but there are people other than YOU that use Apple products you know, for various other purposes, and I'm giving you some possible reasoning for why Apple has gone with AMD again this time. Stock prices have nothing to do with utility. zero. nvidia shares could be worth a billion dollars a share, but it wouldn't change that their GT/GTX series cards are utterly worthless for NX, solidworks, catia, maya, etc. Just look at the R9 M370X vs the GTX 760M in any professional application.

    Point is, no it wouldn't suit your purposes, but it is possible that OP and other professionals take this into account for theirs, and why Apple possibly chose AMD over nVidia.

    This is purely from an analytical point of view. I've owned many of both company cards, and I'm currently using nVidia cards in all my systems for gaming, but I have a separate 8970M rig for render work.
     
  7. darkloki

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    You have zero concept on how to evaluate a company, zero, if you truly believe "Stock prices have nothing to do with utility. zero" there are plenty of situations where a companies Value either goes up or down purely based on the utility of their product. Especially within the Retail Sector, do I really have to give you examples? Chipotle? E-coli? Lumber Liquidators, Formaldehyde? The examples are countless... General Public and Investors aren't usually wrong... Look at AMD's performance for 5 years, you telling me they have great products and everybody else is just missing something? 5 years is a huge timeline for something to happen.
     
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    My uncle actually works for Apple Computers and picks out LCD's that go into the systems based on vendors in Japan (Before they were manufactured here and he was a part of that as well), I actually give him 100% credit towards how he's taught me how to invest and what to look for when evaluating companies. Translation: I'm very familiar with how Apple picks components and they really only care about 4 things (1) Availability (2) Contract Price (3) Durability (4) Performance.

    There is a reason why I have them in that sequence

    I'm scheduled to actually visit him on the 3rd. Oddly enough... And you bet your ass that we talk shop on Portfolio Diversification and potential losers and winners...
     
  9. Jarhead

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    Stocks only tell you what people with disposable income think about a company and its products; it's really just glorified gambling (not that I'm innocent of that; that was the majority of my college funding and I certainly didn't have intimate knowledge of all those companies' products and industries). Benchmarks tell you in reality how good or bad the actual products are.

    That said, chill. It's just a laptop and if you don't like Apple putting in a part you don't like, there are dozens of other OEMs willing to take your money.
     
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    maybe if i find a genie ill wish for a 1080M in the new macbook pro.
     
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    That genie needs to break thermodynamics, since a 1080M would need beefy cooling, resulting in a thicker laptop, and thicker laptops aren't sexy anymore ;).
     
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    assuming the universe allows for the formation of a translucent semi-corporeal being to appear out of a lamp by the simple action of causing friction on its surface...then i guess 1080M's in a macbook pro should be a piece of cake ;)
     
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