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Macbook screen DIES when opening lid: Apple provides NO FIX!
Louis Rossmann
Published on Jan 11, 2019
https://flexgate.me/
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Louis Rossmann 1 week ago
"Visit https://flexgate.me/ to learn about this issue if your Macbook screen stops working as you open it."
SolidSnakeSK 1 week ago
"Well Macs spell Scam backwards so no wonder they don't last."
Jens Nielsen 1 week ago
"Clearly anyone with this issue are just opening their laptops wrong."
Hung Truong 1 week ago
"Apple product quality seem to go down hill. That why their share go down. Then they blame the Chinese not buying enough....lol"
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The design flaw behind MacBook Pro’s “stage light” effect ifixit.org | JANUARY 22, 2019
The Touch Bar generation of MacBook Pro always had its quirks, but the thin-at-all-cost design may finally be proving more trouble than it was ever worth. The latest issue to crop up—dubbed “ flexgate” by one of our users, Alex—reveals that the compact design for the display’s flex cables is prone to fatigue and failure, leading to a host of display problems that can’t be easily (or cheaply) fixed.
The devil is in the details...
Apple opted for thin, fragile flex cables as opposed to the beefier wire cables used in previous designs that could be routed through the hinge instead of wrapped around it, helping mitigate the stress of repeated openings and closings. But the bigger problem is that, in an apparent effort to make the display as thin as possible, Apple designed the cables as part of the display, so they cannot be replaced. This means that when (not if) those cables start to fail, the entire display unit needs to be replaced, as opposed to one or two little cables— effectively turning a $6 problem into a $600 disaster
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Cloudy days is a hell lot better than rain, snow and wind
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This is why I'm still using my 2013 15" MacBook Pro. No issues. Decent keyboard, good display, nVidia GPU (750M but better than nothing LOL) , 2x TB2 ports, SD card reader, 2 USB Type-A , Magsafe 2 power adapter, HDMI Out.
When apple actually had good I/O.
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I speak english and jackassenise. Anything else is gibberish.
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Apple secretly solves Flexgate problem Notebookcheck.com | Mar 5, 2019
The hobbyists of iFixit have found that Apple has secretly fixed the problem that led to the Flexgate problem without any confession. This means that those affected probably will continue to pay an almost absurd price for the repair in the future. -
Apple’s 2018 MacBook Pros Attempt to Solve Flexgate, Without Admitting It Exists
MARCH 4, 2019 WRITTEN BY WHITSON GORDON IN SCANDAL
https://ifixit.org/blog/13979/apple...o-solve-flexgate-without-admitting-it-exists/
Now's the time to return your affected Mac and demand your money back!!
"In 2018, a number of MacBook Pro users—with models from 2016 onwards—discovered a serious design flaw that causes the screen to fail after repeated opening and closing of the laptop over the course of a few years. The ensuing scandal was, of course, dubbed flexgate, after the flex display cables causing the problem. Despite Apple’s refusal to acknowledge the issue, though, their latest MacBook Pros have a longer cable that may be attempting to make up for previous shortcomings.
The Design Flaw Behind MacBook Pro’s “Stage light” Effect! #Flexgate
iFixit Video
Published on Jan 29, 2019
The Touch Bar generation of MacBook Pro always had its quirks, but the thin-at-all-cost design may finally be proving more trouble than it was ever worth. The latest issue to crop up—dubbed “flexgate” by one of our users, Alex—reveals that the compact design for the display’s flex cables is prone to fatigue and failure, leading to a host of display problems that can’t be easily (or cheaply) fixed. Read the blog! https://ifixit.org/blog/12903/flexgate/
You can read more about flexgate in our rundown here, but in short: Apple, in an effort to make their laptops even thinner and sleeker, is using thin, fragile flex cables to connect the display to the display controller board beneath the touch bar. In this space-saving design, the thin cable wraps around a small circuit board where it is pulled taut as the laptop opens and closes. After a year or two of opening and closing the laptop, the cable will wear down, causing the display to start failing with a distinctive stage-light effect.
Photo credit: iFixit member kaikai
And since the cable is integrated into the screen, it cannot be simply swapped out—the entire screen must be replaced (a $700 part). Apple has yet to acknowledge the issue or extend their warranty to affected users.
So far, so good—another design defect exacerbated by Apple’s insistence on making products thinner at all costs. However, when MacRumors user Olivia88 noticed their 2018 13” MacBook Pro seemed to have a longer cable than previous models, we were intrigued. Since we were just wrapping up writing the repair manual for the 2018 model anyway, we checked inside our 2018 15” MacBook Pro again to measure its cable against its 2016 predecessor—and found the 2018 cable was, in fact, a full 2mm longer. Since this change appears in both our 15” model and Olivia88’s 13” model, it’s plausible this change is present in multiple, if not all, 2018 MacBook Pros.
“This is significant because it gives the backlight cable more room to wrap around the board and not come into contact with the board as the laptop is opened past 90 degrees,” said Taylor Dixon, teardown engineer at iFixit. Presumably, this contact is what led to the wear, tear, and eventual failure of the cable—though the exact cause of the failure is tough to pin down. “Since we have yet to experience the problem for ourselves, it’s hard to say for sure how much of the problem is the cable being in close proximity to the board and how much of it is the length of the cable,” said Dixon. “The longer cable definitely gives more room to breathe around the board, but it’s still in such close contact with the board that it’s impossible to tell whether it’s rubbing on the board at any point.” In other words: this could solve the problem, or it could just delay the cable’s inevitable failure a bit longer.
Here’s what the 2016 backlight cable looks like with the hinge fully open:
And here’s the same cable with the hinge fully open on a 2018 model:
You can see there is dramatically more room with the longer cable. We’ll have to wait another year or two to see how this actually affects the prevalence of flexgate issues on 2018 MacBook Pros. While we didn’t predict precisely this failure mode, expensive repairs like this are exactly why this device earned a rather pathetic repairability score of 1 out of 10.
Worst of all, this implies that Apple knew about the flexgate issues before public backlash hit its fever pitch, and still refuses to even acknowledge the issue, let alone take responsibility and offer free repairs. In fact, multiple people claim Apple has deleted support threads regarding the issue on Apple.com, attempting to sweep this under the rug rather than offer an extended warranty program to those affected. You can sign this petition to try and get their attention, or fill out their feedback form here.
Unfortunately, this feels like par for the course. Apple has a long track record of fighting efforts to encourage more repairable design in green environmental standards like EPEAT, and this is just another design flaw on the pile that forces costly, unnecessary replacements on consumers who bought a multi-thousand dollar laptop with the expectation that it won’t break after only a couple years of normal use. Do you hear us, Apple? Do better."Last edited: Mar 5, 2019steberg likes this. -
Macbook screen DIES when opening lid: Apple provides NO FIX!
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