Macbook Pro: I am the only 1 disappointed?

Why dont Apple ever embrace latest technology like blu ray?
Are they using Centrino 2 Chip Set?

Its almost $5000 for this 17" version in Australia almost 2 x more expensive than USA?

Why are they more than 2 x the price in Australia?

 

No blu-ray because of the cost of licensing and plus they would have to pay Sony. Mac's will never have blu-ray so stop complaining (not just directed at you but everyone). It will be dead in a couple years anyways.

But I think it's funny, people complain about the price and then complain it doesn't have blu-ray, Well having blu-ray would add a lot to the price.

 

Yeah, but so will everything else. Technology moves fast and Apple needs to keep up with it. They need to get into the Blu-Ray market.

 

You'll always be disappointed with Apple's iMac and MacBook Pro line, they're priced at the high end but suffer mid range specs because of Apple's obsession with things like thinness.

But you'll still buy em, cos you love OS X.

 

they are either using montevina or Nvidia chipset-we still don't know

 

Well, Apple are on the Blu-Ray board. But Blu-Ray (c)/(w)ould bite into iTunes movies, so no dice there.

Seeing as they have the 9400M integrated, its practically a show in that its nVidia.

 

Apple appears to be using a nVidia version of Monteniva according to sources ( http://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/15...yn-macbooks-and-pros-get-montevina-benefits/). I wonder what the CPU benchmarks will be.

 

I really don't see the difference

 

im definately disappointed with this offering, although at the same time kind of happy because i want to have my current mbp for another 1.5/2 years. i think its most disappointing for us aussies, the prices are crazy, and yes thats compared apple prices, and not only that but the student discount has also been reduced.
Also other than all the other things that have already been mentioned, no one has realised that the footprint has increased quite significantly, look at the screen bezel. but for myself most interestingly is what apple has decided to do with cooling the notebook, because the old mbp draws its air intake through the keyboard, although the new keyboard has no space between keys...

edit: just thought the high gloss screen with the black behind it is going to make a great mirror.

 

Why? So they can force users into investing into yet another dying format?

Not investing in Blu-Ray is Apple's best decision. With iTunes and digital downloads, Blu-Ray is pointless.

 

Glad to see some one else seeing it the way I do.

 

***? With a 1.5mb connection, and a 25GB download cap, iTunes movies in HD (even in its inferior quality) would kill my bandwidth and cap. Plus, iTunes doesnt run on Linux.

And no one would force you to watch a movie on BR either.

 

How can omitting a piece of technology be considered to be a good thing?

I have a PS3, so I have a collection of Blu-Ray films already so I have no intention of downloading them again on iTunes.

In the UK a top end MBP is £1749 ($3000+) at that price I expect that a Blu-Ray is included as standard.

Yes, not investing in Blu-Ray is Apple's best decision profit wise, but not for the consumer.

 

And it's Apple's fault that your Internet connection sucks? It's also their fault that you've chosen to use Linux instead of Windows/OSX? Seriously, stop trying to point the blame at others when it's clearly not their fault.

 

Because it's not a necessity for everyone. Why should everyone have to pay an inflated price because Joe Technology feels that it should be included?

Not everyone got suckered into investing in Blu-Ray, so for them, iTunes is a perfect solution.

I expect people to realize that things cost differently depending where you are in the world. Even though something may cost more where you are, doesn't mean that it should automatically come with more features. If you don't like the price of what Apple is offering, no one is forcing you to buy.

Last I checked, I was a consumer. IMO, not including Blu-Ray is an excellent decision.

 

With company's like Apple pushing online video downloading, we may start to see bandwidth caps go up, or just not be there. (witch is unlikely because of people that abuse).

 

Wow, talk about a fanboy.

The omission of Blu-ray was possibly business smart, but not consumer smart. Blu-Ray is not a dying format, and I don't know why everyone keeps saying it. Sales are up consistently with big releases (Iron Man Blu grabbed 20% of total copies sold, I was one of them). Digital download is not as high quality, takes up too much hard drive space, and is laced with DRM that depends on your computer and their servers working perfectly all the time.

I really can't understand why they left Blu-ray out of the picture, besides to keep from hurting iTunes sales. Professionals will really shy away from Mac now due to no Blu and the glossy screens.

 

Oh come on, how is not having Blu-Ray an excellent decision for you as a consumer? So that you can be limited to HD downloads on iTunes?

As explained by the member above with his internet cap (as if he is going to WAIT for his internet cap to increase...) - iTunes isn't for everyone. Is having BOTH; Blu-Ray AND iTunes HD downloads a such bad thing for us?

 

iTunes is like the plague. It should be scourged from everyone's computer!

 

I'm still a tad worried about Blu-ray due to the fact that its not final spec. Everyone who bought a blu-ray player thats not a ps3 is getting burned by sony.
I think Apple wants to wait till its final spec. That and I'm sure they want to wait till the burners are good enough to include in high end models.

But overall, blu-ray isn't doing that well. It's not dying per say, it's doing a lot better than the PSP movies... but the last sales report I heard (a few months ago) said that DVD was still slaughtering it.

Cut the BRD players down to $100, make them final spec, and lower costs of BRD movies to $15 and it'll will be much more popular

 

I think it's still kinda early to implement Blu-Ray. Perhaps when the licensing drops and putting a writable drive becomes more feasible. Right now not every average consumer wants a Blu-Ray, they're pretty much content with DVD's.

 

blu ray has been out for 2 years.

mbp is not even using lol centrino 2 they are still using the old dual core 2


hahhaha anyhow my company banned apple because apple's too greedy for profit by trying to capitalise on mid range out dated hardware.

Our campany has decided to go with Toshiba because of better specs and wide variety of hardware support.

btw Sea Drill has over 12,000 employees.

Apple missed out and i am not going to get the new MBP - if i add $500 to the price of the 17" screen i could get myself an Alienware m17x instead with 2 x nVidia 9800 GTX video cards.

 

Why would i waste my download on itune movies? Australia is backward country we got internet provider that is greeder like hell called Big Pond that capp ur download speed and limit your usage. This is not a good deal for Australian Business or Home Cusomters.

On top of all that Apple is greedy by using old and out dated hardware in their brand new laptops to capitalise on profits.

Itune is not for me nor for lot of other people - blue ray is way better qualitdy for peple who are into multimedia at the highest level.

Why should i use itune when i got limewire? I am sure Limewire and other p2p programs have killed a large chunk from the greedy itune store. I dont see them trying to ban p2p? So why ban BluRay?

Omitting blue ray is the most dummest thing a greedy company could ever tried to do. By the way i am not gong to buy mbp because i like their osx, for the price they are ripping people off with I would like to have also the latest new techonology hardware, shiny gloss and keyboard back lit lights to glow with it too. I also want to watch my blue ray movies in the highest quality resolution possilbe.

They say Apple is multimedia lol nooo no no apple is itune and mid range outdated old hardware to rip off old uneducated people .....

for another 500 bucks i might aswell go with Alienware m17x

 

LMAO.

Centrino is not a processor. Centrino is a marketing gimmick.

Centrino laptops use C2D processors... same as the ones in the MBP.

Intel Centrino 2

Centrino, in simple terms means you have:
A core 2 duo
A wireless chip
Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset Family with Intel® Graphics

Thats it...

 

omfg my bad

 

Anyways do u guys think i should just folk out money to buy the old Mac Book Pro? there got price clearance on it.

I will probably save a few dollars off the RRP.

My wife wants a mac omfg.

BTW which is correct english? Anyway or Anyways? in Australia we say ANYWAY but in USA we hear them say ANYWAYS.

 

Blu-Ray might've been out for awhile but it only won the war in February so I think it'll take awhile for it to set in. I think it will do it at a faster rate than DVDs though. But as of right now Apple omitting Blu-Ray doesn't seem like a horrible choice, it's just is to the enthusiasts.

 

i dont like the thing about no blu ray what so ever.... at least pc laptops have blu ray in them. That's called choices.

With apple a consumer has no choice - which ever decision u make u r making it in Apple's favour.

i suppose i wouldnt mind it so much if i was living in USA but in Australia we have tariffs tax plus greedy vendors and greedy whole salers on top of the almighty greedy Apple that is trying to make the most out of profit from selling oudated hardware. They dont even give a you a choice they only allow you to make 2 decisions to buy or not to buy and if u do buy you only have 2 decisions 15 or 17.

 

@ tyronne:can you please stop that?not cool m8,really not cool

 

Here's an easy solution. Don't buy an Apple and stop whining! Problem solved!

 

"Anyway" is correct.

 

thanks i thought so

Anyway i dont know if i should get the old mbp or the new mbp

 

Care to explain this sentence?

 

Great post here.

Whoever says Blu Ray is a dying technology is a moron. Look at the numbers.

More than likely Apple did not want to include Blu Ray disc drive because MBP don't have HDMI outs. Plus Apple probably doesn't want to pay for the licensing fees for either HDMI or Blu Ray.

Of course there will be huge crowds that will stand up and say, "OMG STEVEJOBS IS SO GENIUS!!!!!!!"

Seriously, the fanboys should stop kissing Steve Job's butt and tell it how it is.

My opinion is this isn't anywhere as ground breaking as the IPOD refresh and I'm sure people were expecting the same amount of excitement. I think they should of just taken the old Macbook and made it available in 10 different colors. That would have been more groundbreaking than this garbage.

 

it just means every decision u make will only be in the favour of Apples.

 

totally agree.

 

mbp has displayport,which is better then hdmi.also,you might want to see Jobs response on "blu-ray"

 

isn't every company doing that?

 

I laughed at that. Seriously.

 

Did I not call this?

Steve Jobs isn't Nostradamus. Unless they invented the crystal ball.

While Display port is more future proof than HDMI, it has some serious ground to cover. For one, only the newest TVs will have Displayport and most new TVs still don't have it. HDMI will dominate the consumer media market for a long long time along with BLU RAY.

 

and may i know why?

 

the "Blu-ray is a bag of hurt" was freaking hilarious. I mean... it was a great quote. I had to put it on my IM status message.

 

As long as it supports 1080i and sound, couldn't a simple adapter get the job done?

 

Wait, what? The displayport is going to be on TVs? I was assuming it's just going to be apples standard multi output tool. Just switch the dongle for the type of device to connect it to.

Currently, there is no Displayport -> HDMI dongle. So this leads me to believe that it only carries video (both analog and digital).
The bigger concern is HDCP. If Apple upgrades to BRD when final spec hits, then if the display port does not support HDCP, we're screwed.

When the MBP gets a BRD player, and it can support HDCP, then I'm assuming they will either have a HDMI dongle or we will just use the DVI dongle and use the DVI -> HDMI dongle.

Of course, that will likely still mean we need to run a freaking optical cable to our surround receiver

 

oh,i though you laugh @ me sorry

btw,displayport supports higher res and 7.1 sound

 

Ah, interesting. But if it does, why does it not have an HDMI dongle?

*edit*

Ah! When I was thinking Display Port, I was thinking it was just the same thing as what the previous MB had. I didn't realize it was actually a full blown new technology.

 

More info on the Display port.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort

 

previews one was mini dvi.

 

Or perhaps he is allowed to voice his extremely valid opinion on a public forum. He likes Macs and he likes blu-ray (as do I). He is disappointed in not seeing them together.

Here is what Jobs had to say:
Straight from El Jobso's mouth at today's notebook keynote: "Blu-ray is just a bag of hurt. It's great to watch the movies, but the licensing of the tech is so complex, we're waiting till things settle down and Blu-ray takes off in the marketplace." Phil chimed in with "We have the best HD movie and TV options in iTunes." ****. As if that weren't enough to make Mac-lovin' home theater junkies cringe, Steve also commented (when asked about the dearth of HDMI in his introductions) that HDMI was "limited in resolution," and Philip Schiller elaborated by saying that "for typical computer use, DisplayPort is the connector of the future." So, does that mean we can't count on Blu-ray support in OS X 10.5.6?
Source

So it is possible that we may see it in future Macs when blu-ray is more widely accepted. Hopefully that day will come. Of course I wouldn't expect those of you without a big fancy HDTV and a blu-ray player to understand.

The funny thing is a couple of hours ago I had to chime in on a little bit of Mac bashing on a PS3 forum because of what Jobs said and now I have to do the reverse here. Too bad some people can't see the light or in this case both lights (awesomeness of both Macs AND blu-rays).

 

I still think they should make the Macbook in several different colors. Screw refreshing the hardware. No one would notice the difference.

It boils down to this. Does it connect to the Internet? Will it upload my photos? Is the fish eye effect still there? Will buy.