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    Macbook Pro Screens - White or RGB LED ?

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by pixtweak, Oct 21, 2008.

  1. pixtweak

    pixtweak Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have been in several discussions with colleagues and Apple staff regarding what type of LED screen is offered in the Macbook Pro. I am purchasing a 15.4 inch notebook and would like to get the best possible screen. Dell, HP, and Sony are offering RGB LED high resolution screens. No one I have spoken to at any of the three different Apple stores in the San Francisco Bay Area has any idea. One of the reps on the phone brought in tech support who said he felt certain the new Macbook Pro 1440 x 900 screen is an RGB LED screen as opposed to white LED. The white LED screens seem to have a color gamut of 45% NTSC or Adobe RGB, the RGB LED screens are closer to or exceed 100%. The only RGB LED screens with published specs that I have seen are all WUXGA. As I understand it no WUXGA screens are offered on the 15.4 inch Macbook Pro. Anyone know if the Macbook Pro screens are in fact RGB LED or White LED?
     
  2. BRB, balling

    BRB, balling Notebook Enthusiast

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    The new Macbook Pros allegedly use LP154WP3 screens from LG, which have 90% color saturation.

    There's a webpage I'm trying to link but I don't have enough posts, but google "LP154WP3", and the 2nd result should be a chinese Mac forum with a graph that shows all the specs of the screen. I don't know if that makes it a definite RGB LED though.
     
  3. sulkorp

    sulkorp Notebook Deity

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    Uhh, the whole "led" screen thing, is just the backlight.

    The screen panel itself is still lcd, if that clears up any confusion.

    What I can gather from your post is you're asking if apple is using a red, green, and blue led, and then creating the backlight from them.

    I dont really see why they would use RGB leds to make the white backlight, other then if what you're saying is right, it creates some kinda "whiter" white. (you know what im getting at), although it doesn't make much sense because it would use 3x the amount of power that white led's would use (id assume), and I dont even know if you could use RGB leds properly in this situation.

    I kinda think that you might have either A) heard some wrong info at some point and are confusing things.
    or B) I don't know what you're talking about

    Kinda seems like A though.
     
  4. BRB, balling

    BRB, balling Notebook Enthusiast

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    Taken from another post:

    "RGB LED based backlit screens use three separated colors (red, green, blue) contrary to the white ones (WLED) which use one (usually blue diode covered with phosphor). They have significantly higher color gamut compared to white LEDs and standard CCFLs. In other words, better image quality, truer/richer/deeper.. whatever color.

    RGB LED technology itself isn't new and it has been used in TVs but it was too expensive, afaik."
     
  5. sulkorp

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    Interesting, did a quick look online, and yea they can rgb leds. Kinda seems weird, cause you would think they would have to use 3x the amount of leds inorder to do that, but whatever.

    The previous gen used white led's as the backlight, and id assume that this gen would too. Most of the stuff I found on a quick google search were talking about LG's new 17" rgb backlit panel that they just announced last month.

    Probably not using RGB leds. If they were, im sure apple would make a big deal about it. But yea, if dell advertises that they're using it, youd think apple would too.

    And I guess it was kinda b, I did know what i was talking about, but i just didnt believe they were using it for laptop displays.
     
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    willymcd Notebook Consultant

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    Dell is going to be using them in the M4400 15" sometime soon, hopefully!

    also is using them in their 17 workstation monster. and HP has their business class 17" with RGB led . So far i think dell will be the first with one in a 15" notebook...
     
  7. Phil

    Phil Retired

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    As far as I know Apple MBP uses a White LED.

    The topmodel Sony AW for example uses a RGB LED.
     
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    eddieaus Notebook Consultant

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    pixtweak Notebook Enthusiast

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    Eddieaus and BRB thanks for the specs. The Dell Precision 4400 is the only notebook I have found offering a 15.4 inch screen that lists its spec as RGB LED. Dell is the only manufacturer that posts specs for each screen option and links that information directly to the Order/Configuration pages for each model notebook (Dell Precision 4400 & 6400). I guess if you think you have the best screens you are more likely to post complete specs for everyone to see.

    It seems to me this information should be published and it's authenticity and accuracy backed up by Apple and every other notebook manufacturer. Lenovo by the way did get me the specs for the Thinkpad W500 and publishes the specs for the Thinkpad W700. I am not interested in a brand war here, but I am interested in knowing what's what. Screen specs are every bit as important as knowing hard drive speed, or which CPU you are getting. As better screens become available it is going to be important to know the complete specs in order to choose the right screen for your needs, as well as making price/feature comparisons between models and competing brands.

    The page listing screens that eddieaus posted lists two different 1440 x 900 screens for the 15.4 inch Macbook Pro. One is 45% the other 90% "Color Saturation", no mention of % of a specific Color Space ie. NTSC, or Adobe RGB. Well then is it too much to ask when you spend $2,500 to have Apple confirm which one it is that you are buying and to publish an official list of complete and accurate specs (brightness, contrast, bit depth, back light, % Adobe RGB)?