Mac book pro with vista???

Mac book pro with vista??? Is this possible, i h8 the mac operating system, but i like the mac!!!

 

Yes it is possible either through Apple Bootcamp or other third party software like VMWare or Parallels.

 

might go for an apple book pro then! cool

 

I think that more stupid than buy an apple is install windows on it

mac OS is a good software, enjoy it if you want an apple if not, save money, or pay the same for a better (hardware) notebook

 

Well I was also wondering why the OP would buy a mac if he/she hated mac os x operating system. The reason I didn't say anything is because its his/her money. But I totally agree with you on the fact that it is stupid to buy a mac to run windows on it as the main operating system.There are better value windows pcs out there. But if the OP is buying a mac because of its looks then I really don't have anything to say.

 

The good thing that come with the macbook pro is, Fast prossesor, led backlight keyboard, hi res screen with led backlight, small and compact, good gpu!!

But its supost to be a mac book pro and comes with a serial ata harddrive :S

And no blueray!!!

There does not seem to be an option for vista on the mac book webpage /\ /\ /\

 

Nice grammar dude!!! (WLF46WLF)... Anyhow, I think the Apple chassis is beautiful, and would also install Vista on it until I bacame comfortable with Leopard. Where else can you find a 15.4" system with a decent processor, WXGA+ glossy screen, headphone and mic. jacks in the side (instead of the front, for those of us who like to plug-in external speakers), a 34mm express card reader (for those of us with cellular internet cards), a locking lid/screen, NO fingerprint reader to accumulate dirt, no quick-access "WOW" buttons that are likely NEVER to get used, decent audio with no skipping and popping, reputable battery life and a decent web-cam, all rolled into a durable and esthetically pleasing housing? Zepto, Dell Inspiron 1520, and the new Alienware m15x are the closest I have come to finding the perfect blend. The Dell was plagued with problems, but physically fit the mold ideally, and the Alienware just would not suit me, as I think I would look silly showing up at a business meeting, or training seminar with a gaming notebook, (no disrespect, it is a beautiful machine), covered in alien skulls and lights, also with questionable battery life expectations. I'm also waiting to see about the new Lenovo Ideapads.... whether or not they beef-up the processors and allow for some customization. They look like they might fit the bill for someone such as myself too.

 

cba with the spelling atm /\ /\ , Looks like you comparing your mac book to the m1530 lol, the only thing the mac has over the 1530 is led backlight screen hi res + keyboard Nice!! and the quality of macbook design! Shame the whole thing is made out of plastic, we find plastic everyware now, and to be frank, I’m sick of it!

But the mackbook is a good system, just no sata or bluray, so i might just have to wait for led to come out on the m1530 !!

 

@jrsryder

Well you said you are going to install vista on it till you become comfortable with vista,that is fair enough. That is in fact one of the reasons why apple made it possible to run windows on a mac,that is to make the switching a little bit easier. Well your statement shows that you are willing to use mac os x leopard after all,once you get used to it. However the OP said he/she hates mac os x,indicating vista is always going to remain his/her main operating system and that is why I cannot justify him/her buying a mac just to run vista. Well thats just me but if somebody wants only to run vista on a mac then so be it.

 

Could you please explain what you mean when you say that macbook has no sata!!!!!!

 

Yeah, you are right, I thought of that as I was writing my reply and I'm glad you picked up on it. You know what's funny? EVERYONE I have talked to that has ever switched to Mac says .... "Once you go Mac, you never go back". It's just gotta be great....? People just don't like change. I'm a little fearful of getting my feet wet with Leopard, but once I get used to it, I'll probably think, "what was the big deal"? I guess my motivation to go with Mac is different than the OP's, however our observations with respect to the hardware seem to be similar. BTW, what does "OP" stand for?

 

you need to buy a DVD version of vista to use it in you MBP.

i think its not a good idea to use MBP with windows though... why the hassle? its got different keyboard layout. one mouse button, etc. i certainly consider a lenovo t61/p if i were you. i have the SR 17" MBP, and now really itching to buy the lenovo t61p, just can't see the point of owning more than 3 computer thats all... but still....

 

OP- original poster.

 

Thanks, I've seen it on here alot, and I was embarrased to ask.....

 

Yeah, the t61 is really nice too, but I still cannot wrap my head around the offset lcd, and the wide left bezel. Also,it has a matte screen, (which I'm sure many people prefer). Nice options though. I'm waiting to find out more on the new Ideapads they just launched.

 

This is off mac book

Hard Drive
A Serial ATA hard drive gives you more space for data and applications. Choose among several capacities at drive speeds up to 7200 rpm.

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160GB Serial ATA drive (5400rpm)
250GB Serial ATA drive (5400rpm) [+ £100.00]
200GB Serial ATA drive (7200rpm) [+ £130.00]

As long ago as 2000 it was seen that the parallel ATA standard was maxing out its limitations as to what it could handle. With data rates hitting the 133MB/sec mark on a parallel cable bla bla

Standard ATA drives, such as this 200GB Western Digital model, have somewhat bulky, two inch wide ribbon cable with 40-pin data connections and receive the 5V necessary to power them from the familiar 4-pin connection

SATA drives, such as this 120GB Western Digital model, have a half inch wide, 7 “blade and beam” data connection, which results in a much thinner and easier to manage data cable. These cables take the convenience of the ATA rounded cables to the next level by being even narrower, more flexible and capable of being longer without fear of data loss

It goes on...

In addition to being more convenient to install and drawing less power, SATA drives have performance benefits that really set them apart from ATA drives.

And review!!!

The current SATA standard provides significant benefits over ATA in terms of convenience, power consumption and, most importantly, performance. The main thing ATA has going for it right now is history, as it has been the standard for so long that it will not likely disappear any time soon. The future of SATA will be even more interesting as speed increases will help hard drive development keep pace with other key system components.

Basically they are alot better, and at the moment hard drives, are the thing that make notebooks seriously suck compared to desktops, and having a sata drive is reducing the gap

 

TBH I think this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. But if you have the money to burn where you can pay premium for a Mac and then buy windows for it and only use that... it runs beautifully.

 

One of must be clueless, and I think its you. Serial ATA = SATA New notebooks switched fully to SATA drive a little more than a year ago. Before that is was a mix. I would bet that all Core 2 Duo notebooks have shipped SATA drives. No one uses PATA drives in notebooks anymore.

I thought you meant ESATA, as in External SATA, as in a port to connect ESATA drives. ESATA is faster than USB2 or Firewires externally, and you can daisy chain them.

I think the OP is bored and looking for a notebook that Apple does not make. If you want a nice notebook to run Vista that probably has a BlueRay option go to Sony and look at the SZ or TZ. They cost as much as a MBP and some of them are carbon fiber and not plastic.

And the HD in my sig is SATA, I know because put it in. The one I pulled out was SATA as well.

 

Um, the Macbook and Macbook Pro both have SATA hard disks.

 

Lolzzzz. Firstly i try not to laugh at people in the forums because you come here to seek for help. You are right SGT Lindy, I am sorry to say that the OP is completely clueless about what he/she is talking about. Instead of typing the advantages of SATA over ATA you(TrisTan 08) should have read the apple configurations more carefully. As SGT Lindy already mentioned Serial ATA=SATA. TrisTan 08 ,why don't you do us a favour and do some more research before you comment on something. Almost all notebooks nowadays come with SATA hard drives except the MacBook Air which comes with either a SSD or PATA hard drive.

 

Oops i got mixed up between pata and sata/serial ata!!

well i was just here to ask of windows could be used in the sleek mac book pro, as who uses there operating system its crap, apple should switch to vista, they would probably get more business that way, and dramatically reduce the price while they are at it!

I think my current vista system is amazing, where would you find word 2007 and onenote, errr windows, so I’m staying here!

 

Check out the NotebookReview Dictionary.

 

That actually made me laugh. I own both OS X and Vista, and the ONLY times I EVER use Vista is for gaming, and a program needed for an online class. OS X is just so much easier and better to use.

 

If you say so, but windows is everyware, and people are growing up on using vista, like in schools, for mac to get anyware it would have to start out like this!!

you would always have to know how to use windows, as if you were to apply for a job and you diddent know how to use windows, you would be stuffed, rather than mac, it’s just a play toy reli, nothing more!

If you think os x is so good, then why do you still have vista :S cant live without it LOL

 

Really. I guess you are clueless then. Considering all I use at school are Mac Pros, and my job will require me to always use OS X and not Windows. Seriously, Windows is not the end-all be-all, and the ONLY reason that it's everywhere is that Microsoft, since they don't actually make their own computers, license their OS so other companies can install it on their systems, while Apple makes their own computers, so they keep OS X to themselves. Just because it's used more, doesn't automatically make it better. In fact, Gates even recognizes that Vista pales in comparison to XP.

I agree that you should know how to use Windows because it is used more, but that doesn't make it a reliable, faster, more convenient OS. I like my OS to not ask me "hey, you REALLY sure you want to open this program you just clicked... REALLY? You just clicked it, I was just double checking since you're a windows user and probably downloaded a virus" every time I open f***ing FRAPS.

And FYI I told you why I had Vista installed. Maybe if you weren't illiterate you would have known.

You are the epitome of that knuckle-dragging small brained Windows user my software teacher keeps ranting about xD.

 

with all due respet, that is one of the stupidest things i have ever heard. there is no point in you even getting a mac if thats how you feel. and no they dont need to reduce the price. OS X, all other included software, the high resale value, and ofcourse the uber small amount of viruses, make the higher price point completely fair. if you dont like OS X, and dont plan on using it, then spending the money on a macbook pro is stupid. go buy a dell/lenovo and deal with it being uglier. also deal with the fact that when the new windows OS comes out, youll have to upgrade your laptop just to run the new OS at the bare minimum.

/rant.

you cant order a macbook from apple with windows pre-installed. you have to do it yourself. read the stickies they explain it.

 

Well if you have to use vista, that kind of eliminates the thing of using os x! Might as well keep vista and stuff os x where it belongs!

Everybody i know uses vista/xp, the people who use os x are the ones that love there ipod and i phone to much! and who just use it for looking at picture and editing videos end of!

The very bad thing about apple is that they keep there os x to their selves, and have to boost the price of there macbook pros ect because of this! Being dedicated and specialised to you product, means that you are going to end up with a better one on a whole "Vista" not just the social activity "os x" !!

 

I was just asking lol, some of the people on here reli need to get a life and stop beating off over the precious os x system!! It isn’t good enough to get high blood pressure over!

I was just asking what a mac would be like without os x, and people spring to the challenge to defend it! I was just taking a break from uni work lol, no need to get so worked up over it!

I’ll let you guys <censored by moderator> talk about os x all you want, I got better things to do than that! <censored by moderator>, L8ter

[Moderator's Message: Please do not use offensive language or provocative terms.]

 

Actually...the Mac has a huge share of the educational market, and a ridiculous presence in the university campuses now...I'd say the current generation is growing up using a lot more Macs and iPods than ever before.

 

People aren't growing up on Vista. Vista has been out for a whole year, so the majority of people have already used a computer for years are still learning vista.

I grew up on System 4 (Mac OS 4 for those that have never heard of it), and learned how to type using that. I've graduated to every Mac OS since, with the exception of Tiger which I've used a few times but never used at home.

Also, every computer in my school district from the time I was in kindergarten all the way to when I graduated early as a Junior in high school was a Mac. The community college that I dropped out of had a mix of Macs and PCs depending on the class.

Macs tend to be the educational computer of choice.

 

Relax buddy! ill layoff if you do!

You did start this by commenting on small spelling errors.

the it generation has grown up with spell check so were not so careful to what we input in to the computer, especial as I’m learning to touch type, I know in the English language some people think that spelling is everything, but for me i cba to put it through spell check

uni work beckons!

And for the os x thing in uni’s, we have about 10 computers running on os x and the rest on windows, to be sure most people who use the os x system for photos and video editing. The majority use windows as they don’t like os x. "like me" I know 1 person with a mac book pro and he doesn’t use it much!

 

Hmm...just wondering, which university do you go to? If you don't want to reveal, that's fine. But as far as I know, universities are populated with Macs now...

 

And just a note, let's keep this on topic and flaming off the forums please guys...I'll have to close it otherwise. Thanks everyone for their cooperation .

 

Ah, shucks, this thread went from 5 pages to 4 pages. All the good stuff is gone. I just made popcorn so I could sit back and watch some more banter. Oh well, it's not nice to promote or condone that type of dialogue, so I guess I shouldn't encourage it either!!!

 

Thanks Sam for posting.I was wondering where all the previous posts went.

 

I know what you guys mean, its fun to read . But yeah, as a moderator, I have to do what I'm supposed to do, so those posts have to be gone .

 

I love how this guy thinks we are all mac nuts trying to defend os x when he himself is sounding like the typical ignorant close-minded window user

I used to be exactly the same as u buddy, windows for everything because why change? It was until i got a glimpse of how powerful steve job's keynotes were that i started taking a look at macs and wow, what have i missed?

 

Fair comment! Maybe one day, but that day is not soon. In the future os x may be the leading operating system, with windows being the underdog, but for now, windows has the top spot!

 

Actually, I don't think Mac OS X will ever top Windows . I think that Apple limiting OS X to Mac hardware is a part in why its so good, but I agree, that is what will limit its growth.

I don't see Mac OS X ever topping Windows...it certainly can grow a lot more, but not to a dominant share, if you ask me. Linux could possibly, if they market and simplify it enough and get more support for it.

 

Well you see, OS X spell checks everything you type on your screen Haha very useful feature TBH I'm not mad or anything because you bash OS X, was just having some fun because punkbuster keeps kicking me from CoD4 games

 

After reading through, I know you are just a trolling flame baiter who has nothing to do but to stir up an argument on the Mac forum.
There are some people that do come to the Mac forum and say that would like to install Windows on a MBP but they generally say that they are not familiar with OS X and want to try it out but are not ready to fully migrate.
YOU, you just say, "I absolutely hate OS X" and want to install Windows on a Mac. You are just trying to start a fight. Most people on this forum are above you.
Incidentally, Vista is so good to you but it doesn't seem to teach you how to spell very well now does it? You need to have Vista teach you grammar.

 

You first talk about the Macbook Pro, then switch gears to the Macbook. The Macbook is encased in plastic, but the Macbook Pro is encased in aluminum. Secondly, both the Macbook and Macbook Pro use internal SATA drives. Just check the Apple website. Perhaps you're referring to eSATA? In that case I don't know of any notebook that has such a port.

I understand the allure of the form factor of the MPB, but I just can't understand why anyone would buy one to ONLY run Microsoft Windows on it. I tried OS X and I use it far more than Windows now (at least for home use, work is Windows). But to each their own.

Lastly, your spelling is atrocious. Maybe you're not a great speller, but do you really need to abbreviate a 4-letter word like "hate" to the 2-letter "h8"?

 

Well, that's a really easy thing to fix. Just adjust your security levels.

Besides, it stops asking you once you click "Allow this program".

 

Well if you have to adjust the security levels then it defeats the purpose of the crappy security Vista has in the first place. It's not secure anyway if all you have to do is press the "Allow" button. Picture your kid on your Vista computer playin' around then downloads something, presses "Allow" and then attempts to install and presses "Allow" again and then you have a Vista virus.
That's why the UAC is retarded. At least OS X requires a password before preceding, that's true security.

 

Ummmm, that's not the point of UAC. They implemented the feature so things like spyware wont install themselves on your computer if they come with some program you downloaded. UAC is simply a tool to make sure that other programs aren't installed without your knowledge. One simply needs to configure their administrator controls to block other users on the PC from installing software.

I've been reading many of your posts and they are all nothing but blind mac fanboy comments. If you post something, then please get it right instead of passing along false information.

 

You can configure Vista to require a password too. (That's what I do... just change your user type from admin to standard in the user accounts control panel.) By default it doesn't though. I can certainly see why... everyone whines about it enough even when all they have to do is click!

 

I'm sure its been said, but I didn't have the determination to crawl through what may have been a flame war, but here it is (again?) in case this is valuable information.

In the current state of technology and prices, the macbook pro is not the best choice for value of components. If you are interested in gaming, Dell's XPS m1330 can get you the same internals for considerably less cost, or Alienware's new machine can get you faster components (8800m gtx) for comparable cost.

However, if you want OSX primarily, and gaming is a somewhat close second consideration, AND cost is a distant third factor, the macbook pro may just be your only choice.

 

I don't understand people who think it's stupid to buy a mac to install windows on it. Some people appreciate the design of the mbp so much that they are willing to pay a premium for it and continue to use their os of choice, why is that so hard to understand? I understand pointing to a cheaper direction because the op might be misinformed, and saving money by getting a cheaper laptop is always good advice, but saying it's stupid.. idk.

I guess I'm one of the few [vain people] who would pay extra for style. If the op wants to buy a mbp to use vista, then good for him.

 

The MBP is a very powerful and well built laptop, err... notebook. It can't be called a laptop because it does get a bit too warm for laps.

Anyway, its a powerful notebook packaged in a conveniently thin form factor. I find the hardware in it to be much more reliable than that of other notebook manufacturers that I've dealt with so far. Plus, your paying for an LED screen that has amazing clarity plus a very good dedicated graphics card. It is on the high side for price but in the long run it pays off with some of the hardware included (at least for me and my needs ).

Running Vista on the MBP is amazing, except for the fact about the battery drain and all. However, the first service pack for it helps quite a bit in that department (I've tested the beta).