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    MBP question regarding CPU.

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by rogkm, Jun 26, 2007.

  1. rogkm

    rogkm Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm looking for some used MBP, and the guy advertising it is a little confused if it has a CORE DUO or CORE 2 DUO. All he knows is that it has an ATI X1600.

    Is there a MBP with CORE DUO only? Is there a way to know this using the processor speed?


    thanks.
     
  2. speedy21589

    speedy21589 Notebook Consultant

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    if it has the x1600 im pretty sure it has a core 2 duo.

    edit: nvm i just googled and i guess the core duo mbps had the x1600 as well.

    Why doesn't he just look in system profiler on OS X? I think thats what it is called.
     
  3. thegsrguy

    thegsrguy Notebook Deity

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    Core Duo MBP = X1600
    Core 2 Duo MBP = X1600
    newest Core 2 Duo MBP = 8600GT
     
  4. zadillo

    zadillo Notebook Virtuoso

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    He should be able to tell by simply going to the Apple menu and choosing About this Mac. It should say exactly what kind of processor it is (and if he still can't figure it out, clicking on "More Information" will tell exactly).

    As a general point, if you're looking at used MBP's, I'd highly recommend looking at the C2D MBP's at least; they improved the ventiliation and cooling, so it performs cooler, and also allowed for a faster X1600 than the original MBP.
     
  5. count_schemula

    count_schemula Notebook Deity

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    The word is that the latest X1600 MBPs were a little faster in terms of clock speeds. The first ones were a little underclocked.
     
  6. thegsrguy

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    Hadn't heard that...interesting.

    The Core Duo was the first MBP. They moved to the Core 2 Duo for the subsequent models, to answer the OP's question.
     
  7. zadillo

    zadillo Notebook Virtuoso

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    It was actually a pretty dramatic difference - the original MBP's X1600 was really underclocked - like 310/300 or something. The C2D MBP had an X1600 clocked at like 418/450 (much closer to the 470/470 stock speeds of the X1600).

    I think this was mainly due to the improved ventilation/etc. that made it not necessary to underclock it so much.
     
  8. count_schemula

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    The first Core Duo ones also ran a little hot, prolly part of the reason for the underclock. Maybe even the first Core2Duo ones were underclocked too.

    The last ones, 2.16 and 2.33 were not as underclocked, if at all.
     
  9. rogkm

    rogkm Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok I found out the configs. Here are the options:

    Core Duo 1.8MHz
    1.5Gb RAM
    80gb HD
    X1600 128mb
    (1 year of use)

    or

    Core 2 Duo 2.16Mhz
    1Gb RAM
    120Gb
    x1600 128mb
    (1 month of use, he said it's brand new, he almost never used)

    The second option will cost me $500 more, do you guys think it's worth it?
     
  10. zadillo

    zadillo Notebook Virtuoso

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    What are the total prices they are asking for each?

    Honestly, again, just knowing the differences between the two, I'd always recommend the one with the improved cooling. But I'm curious how much they're asking for each.
     
  11. count_schemula

    count_schemula Notebook Deity

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    So, like $1000 and $1500?

    For $1000, I'd get the first one.

    That's a lot cheaper.

    I have a 2.16 and it's very nice. It came with one 1GB stick from Apple, so you are only $65 stick of 1GB ram away from 2GB, which is solid.
     
  12. rogkm

    rogkm Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well I'm not from USA so the prices will seem very high for you but anyways I'll just shoot:

    First one -> $2.000,00

    Second one -> $2.500,00


    A new one withe Core 2 Duo 2Gb RAM 8600m Gt, 120gb HB would run me $3.500,00
     
  13. count_schemula

    count_schemula Notebook Deity

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    Where you stay at? Australia/NewZealand? Dirty Souf Africa?

    At that ratio, 2000/2500, the 2.16 looks better.
     
  14. rogkm

    rogkm Notebook Enthusiast

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    Brazil, this **** is like hell the government taxes everything! And what you said about the 1gb being only one stick is great, I can just buy a new one in a couple months and I'll have 2gb!!!
     
  15. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    hah why dont you just have someone from the states ship one to you?

    honestly if you payed someone for their trouble, im sure they would have no problem buying you a laptop.

    i mean, those prices are basically ridiculous anyway.

    ah im upset. dont let sellers take advantage of you based on where you live. they should be selling their stuff at a reasonable price.
     
  16. rogkm

    rogkm Notebook Enthusiast

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    The problem is that if someone ships it, it will be taxed in customs 50% of it's value.
     
  17. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    can't you just claim that the value is much lower than it really is?

    like...

    $50

    or do bad things happen if you lie to the customs people?

    you could probably slip another $50 to the customs agent if you had guts.
     
  18. count_schemula

    count_schemula Notebook Deity

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    I want to visit Brazil. I have a free ticket.

    Hell, I'd sell you mine for $2000US... :shifty
     
  19. zadillo

    zadillo Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yeah, honestly, given the relative price difference, I think I'd pay the extra amount for the C2D MBP, as it will run cooler - and if you ever plan on using the GPU (for games, etc.) the extra clock speed helps.