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    MBP Vista x64 network drivers? (Bootcamp)

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by enkrypt3d, Nov 14, 2007.

  1. enkrypt3d

    enkrypt3d Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok got bootcamp setup - dual booting between Leopard and Vista x64. Everything seems to work flawlessly.

    After Vista installed I put the Leopard disk in and it ran thru the driver install - then it hangs at starting the KeyAgent and MacHAL services. Under the event viewer, its because keyagent.sys and machal.sys are not compatible 64 bit drivers for Vista. (This is annoying but I'm not sure what these 2 drivers do?)

    Secondly, I can not find ANY networking drivers at all. The devices that have no drivers are the I-Sight camera, ethernet and wifi controllers.

    Can someone please show me where I can download these? Vista x64 runs really fast on my MBP and would love to have the option to use it in addition to Leopard.

    Thanks!
    -enkrypt3d

    Macbook Pro 15" | 2.4Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo | 2GB | 160GB
     
  2. Sam

    Sam Notebook Virtuoso

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    I don't think Boot Camp officially supports 64-bit Windows right now...but I remember reading a thread a while back about using Vista 64-bit properly. Try searching the forum :).

    From Apple's Boot Camp webpage...so I guess it still doesn't support 64-bit yet.
     
  3. Airman

    Airman Band of Gypsys NBR Reviewer

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    I concur, Apple doesn't support Windows x64 at this time. Not to say ofcourse that you can't install it and have it run perfectly fine. Just don't expect all the devices to function properly if at all.

    The only way you will be able to find drivers for the unknown devices is if someone has made them, google will be your best friend in this case.
     
  4. CitizenPanda

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    Here we go with someone who doesn't read directions. Boot camp specifically tells you 32 bit only!! And you expected drivers for your x64... tsk tsk
     
  5. Xander

    Xander Paranoid Android

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    Yes, Boot Camp does not officially support x64 Windows of any flavor. You can find various drivers on nVision.

    Your Mac has the Atheros AR5008 Wireless Network Adapter. I think the Atheros v7.3.1.127 Vista x86/x64 should work. To install this driver, use the Device Manager. Click the Start button, then Control Panel, then System and Maintenance, and then click Device Manager. Now double-click the device name, click the Driver tab, and then click Update Driver.

    If that doesn't work try replacing the INF with the Atheros x64 modded INF. Or try some of the other Atheros drivers. I have not attempted to install x64 Windows with Boot Camp, but am interested. Please provide feedback.
     
  6. enkrypt3d

    enkrypt3d Notebook Enthusiast

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    Xander, thank you very much for your helpful input.

    To everyone else, I'm not just some punk kid who just learned how to type on a keyboard. I wouldn't be posting in here unless I exhausted all other avenues first. Of course I know that bootcamp doesn't officially support 64bit windows - but does that mean I should just do what I'm told and comply? No.

    Xander, I'll give this a shot and see what happens! Thx a ton man! Any clue as to what type of hardware the gigabit ethernet controller uses? Is it Broadcom? Marvell? Intel? If I can find this info out I can try it ;) Thx again
     
  7. Xander

    Xander Paranoid Android

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    I just found the old x64 thread on NBR with the Ethernet Driver and more instructions. Vista x64 and SR MBP HowTo. Hope this helps.

    P.S. Usually we don't like to recommend people to install x64 Windows, but you already had it installed. ;)
     
  8. enkrypt3d

    enkrypt3d Notebook Enthusiast

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    What directions? You've been such a great help - I am forever indebted to you.

    I run 64bit operating systems on all my hardware. Its 2007 dude get with the program.

    Leopard OSX (10.5) - 64bit / Vista x64 on my MBP
    Windows XP64 bit / Debian 64bit (Desktop)

    There is no excuse for apple to not provide these 2 drivers officially. Just because someone says no, does that mean you are going to listen without question? I surely won't.
     
  9. Sam

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    Yes, Apple should support 64-bit Windows...and I'm sure they probably will in the future, its just not officially supported right now. But as stated in posts above, there still are ways to run 64-bit Windows via Boot Camp on a Mac :).
     
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  11. enkrypt3d

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    yep thanks to Xander he got my network devices up and running! Im so stoked now! This is a shocker - one of my desktops has vista x64 on it - and it has a lower performance rating ("Experience Index") than my macbook... which I find to be amazing!

    I'll write up a review once I can test out some games etc ;) Thx guys
     
  12. ANorecticUS

    ANorecticUS Notebook Guru

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    I put Win XP 64-bit on my MBP. I was able to find drivers for everything I need at the moment: XP is for gaming only. I didn't even try to find drivers for wireless or BT, thou.
     
  13. ericlala

    ericlala Notebook Consultant

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    whats your macbook and what rating did u get in vista?
     
  14. Sam

    Sam Notebook Virtuoso

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    Don't know exactly, but expect around 3.2-4...I know the Core Duo MacBook scored 3.1 on Windows Experience, so the new MacBooks should be higher, because the graphics was the lowest scoring part and the new MacBook has improved integrated graphics.
     
  15. enkrypt3d

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    The Windows Experience Index rating for my MBP is 4.8 which is very surprising to me. This is after all drivers and windows updates have been applied. My desktop PC has close to the same score which is a bit of a shock.

    The lowest rating is the memory (typical) but also surprising.

    I played the CRYSIS demo all night but had to put everything on medium settings otherwise it was unplayable. Maybe I'll try to OC the video card and see how it goes from there. BTW that game is so badass! It's a lot like farcry in the game play but so intense! what a rush! :)
     
  16. enkrypt3d

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    Now the real question:

    Should I drop ~$5k on a Mac Pro and dual boot it between Leopard and Vista x64? Or just get a cheaper Dell?

    I have just recently fallen in love with the Mac's (long time PC user 15+ years) and I'm very impressed with the way that you can run just about any OS on these things....

    any input? Is it worth the extra cost?

    Will an eVGA 8800GTX 768MB PCI-Express card work in a Mac Pro?
     
  17. swarmer

    swarmer beep beep

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    $5k, wow... that would be the 8 core huh? I have to say, 8 core is kind of overkill for most people's needs at this point. But... what will you be doing with it?

    You should be able to run all the same OSes on a Dell, except it would lack official support for OS X. In fact, right now support for Windows x64 is also unofficial on most (or all?) Dells, unfortunately... but probably no more difficult to set up then what you've done on your Mac.

    Umm, I doubt if you'll find OS X drivers for the graphics card, but I don't know.
     
  18. enkrypt3d

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    Yes its either I build an 8 core system myself (2 quad core AMD's) or get a pre-made jobber from one of these big boys (Dell / Apple which of course do not offer AMD which is what I like).

    But it really doesn't save me much money by building it myself. The only upside is I get to choose exactly what I want in my next rig.

    *sigh* I guess I'll have to wait and see how it goes.

    Forgot to mention - I'll be using this thing for mainly gaming but I also want my next monster rig to be mean as hell and last me a few years.

    My current PC has this setup:

    AMD FX60 2.6Ghz Dual Core | 2GB OCZ RAM | 2 x 7800GTX 256MB in SLI | DFI LanParty NF4 Ultra SLi-DR Motherboard | PC Power & Cooling PSU 600W | Sata DVD-DL Burner | 2TB of SATA2 Storage in Raid5

    So of course I don't want to take a step down in performance here hehe
     
  19. swarmer

    swarmer beep beep

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    Well, I was going to suggest a machine with a single quad-core processor for much less money than any Mac Pro. But if you're intent on going 8 core anyway (I think it's kinda nuts but whatever), I don't see anything wrong with the Mac Pro.
     
  20. StormEffect

    StormEffect Lazer. *pew pew*

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    Considering all of the new (EXTREMELY AFFORDABLE) kick-butt hardware on the GFX and CPU front coming out in the next couple months, I would be very inclined to build a system myself.

    Not only do you have phenom finally making a debut, you've got penryn throwing around some weight. Nvidia has the 8800GT out now, but realistic availability isn't too far off (1-2 months). AMD/ATI is going to release the HD3870 as well. And this new series will support CrossfireX, which means up to 4 GFX cards.

    You could make one heck of an AMD/ATI machine with this new hardware at a very low price.

    Lets say the phenoms sell for around the price of a Q6600 at 250 and you opt to buy 4 HD3870s.

    Quad Core Phenom- 250$
    Quad Core Phenom - 250$
    HD 3870 - 220$
    HD 3870 - 220$
    HD 3870 - 220$
    HD 3870 - 220$

    That's 500 + 880 = 1380 for some SERIOUS brute force.

    Now throw in a crazy motherboard for 300$ and some highend DDR2 RAM (4GB) for maybe 400$ total. And how about a nice P182 for abou 160$. OH OH, and you MUST get a reliable power supply...so maybe another 200$.

    Lets see...300 + 400 + 160 + 200 = 1060.

    1060 + 1380 = $2440

    That isn't bad, considering you'd be in possession of hardware that could obliterate a Folding@Home application in a microsecond.

    I can't imagine how sweet Crysis would run on an octo-core, quad crossfirex system. Oh wait...I can...it's called 30+ FPS at Ultra High Settings.

    You made me <3 AMD again. Thanks.
     
  21. enkrypt3d

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    lol! I see you love AMD so much that you run Intel in all your hardware ;) hehe jk its all good man.

    Although I'm not a big fan of ATI... I'll be using AMD and Nvidia for my next rig most likely... with 2 Quad Opterons and badass server motherboard... and as much ram as I can afford! lol

    One of the reasons I would rather not build my own though is the fact that my current PC is LOUD! I cant keep it in the bedroom or leave it on over night without the door closed to the other room... this is a big downside when I want to watch movies on the PC etc or play games :(
     
  22. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I want to wait until more established sites run tests on the 3870, but the initial results aren't anything to write home about, at least in single-card comparisons.

    http://iax-tech.com/video/3870/38703.htm

    The 8800GT is faster overall and costs $80 less.
     
  23. enkrypt3d

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    This is one thing I dont get - why is the 8800GT faster than the 8800GTX? Are we talking about the PCI-E 2.0 8800GT here? These manufacturers really know how to name their hardware :rolleyes:
     
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    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I need to edit my previous post. The 3870 actually does cost less than the 8800GT. However, the 8800 is still the better choice, not only for performance but also for the fact that it's a single-slot solution. No bulky, noisy cooling system to deal with.

    Here's Anandtech's review.