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    MBP Breaking 5,000 3DMark06 Barrier

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by never2fast, Nov 30, 2007.

  1. never2fast

    never2fast Notebook Geek

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    So in brief, got my MacBook Pro to brak the 5,000 3DMark06 Barrier to play Crysis, result is 100% stable.

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    Kinda put the Dell XPS M1730's 8,500 SLi result in shame... :p
    Considering its a single 8600MGT vs 2x8700M GT SLi
    But do note the res is 1280x854, and the M1730 was default at 1280x1024 I think.
     
  2. Zedr0n

    Zedr0n Notebook Consultant

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    Come on, I've hoped it would be on 1280x1024.
    The current record is around 4950 on 1280x1024 - and that's close to 5500 on 1280x800 ;)
     
  3. cdnalsi

    cdnalsi Food for the funky people

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    Okay, so what FPS do you get in Crysis now? And what settings?
     
  4. never2fast

    never2fast Notebook Geek

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    ok ok, so I guess I am not the fastest then, anyhow, in Crysis I play it in 1280x800 at all medium (except texture at high), and averages about 25-35FPS
     
  5. cdnalsi

    cdnalsi Food for the funky people

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    Yup that's exactly how I play with no overclocking, same fps -Windows XP :D
     
  6. coyoteunknown

    coyoteunknown Notebook Consultant

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    Was about to say, the score doesn't really mean anything since it's not the default 1280x1024. Not sure if you can run the benchmark at a resolution the monitor doesn't support. Than, the next default would be 1280x800 or 1280x720.

    Anyways, nice results. Isn't 88C a little high? I don't even bother over clocking mine and you could melt a candle on the aluminum strip above the keyboard.

    I play Crysis at 1280x800, 0xAA/8xAF, all settings on High but with Shadows/Shaders set to low. I get between 15fps to 30fps depending on the environment I'm in.

    Even if I set the resolution down to 640x480, having ALL settings on high still only gets me a frame rate of around 10fps to 20fps. Shadows and Shaders are graphics card killers in Crysis. Using drivers 169.09.
     
  7. gridtalker

    gridtalker Notebook Virtuoso

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    I play the same way
     
  8. never2fast

    never2fast Notebook Geek

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    While its true, 88C is not quiet as cool as the MBP itself, but OC in the MBP does yield a sufficient increase to justify doing it, at over 5K scores that about 30% increase in GPU power.

    Just realised that I dont know why my 06 ran at that odd res. normally its 1280x800
     
  9. broaddd

    broaddd Notebook Enthusiast

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    What video driver version are you using? Can they be overclocked by default in the Nvidia control panel, or do you have to do something else first?
     
  10. Magimagus

    Magimagus Notebook Consultant

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    im using 169.09 overclocking with nTune
     
  11. broaddd

    broaddd Notebook Enthusiast

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    Was 169.09 from laptopvideo2go? It's been a while since I've been there (months) and they now have two branches of drivers: 169.xx for desktops and 167.xx for laptops?

    Also, did anyone find the MBP 1.2 'graphics stability' firmware update had any positive or negative effects? particularly on overclocking? I still haven't been brave enough to install it :)
     
  12. Magimagus

    Magimagus Notebook Consultant

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    yup thats where I got them from under xp 32bit
     
  13. knightingmagic

    knightingmagic Notebook Deity

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    3Dmark is a scam to get gamers self-conscious about their computer's speed. The only thing that matters is if the game runs smoothly.
     
  14. Charivari

    Charivari Notebook Evangelist

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    I get about 4350 3dmarks with my 8600gt 512 stock. I cant see it making that much of a difference to OC my card and risk it for just 600-700 points ... i bet our gaming experience is very similar.
     
  15. tianh

    tianh Notebook Consultant

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    What video driver are you using to get that score? and crysis is table? Please link us or give us the driver number!
     
  16. Magimagus

    Magimagus Notebook Consultant

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    I just benched mine to see what I could get. at what I have been using 525 core/ 725 memory I scored 5183. I will probably continue to use this since I have had no problems at all at this speed. Then I benched at 575/770 to see what I could get and this is what I scored. I think the only difference between OP's MBP and mine is more ram and xp.

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    Good enough for me considering my old lappy only scored like 800 :D
     
  17. Sepher

    Sepher Newbie

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    [​IMG]
    Windows Vista

    nVidia SLI Dual GeForce 8600M GT with 512MB VRAM

    Toshiba x205-SLi2 (not a mac)
     
  18. thecommish16

    thecommish16 Notebook Evangelist

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    I just want to play BF2 on this thing!
     
  19. Magimagus

    Magimagus Notebook Consultant

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    why is this in here? :confused:
     
  20. Stone825

    Stone825 Notebook Virtuoso

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    @Everyone - When you run 3dmark06, run it at 1280x1024. That is the "official" 3dmark06 resolution, and any other resolution is simply not valid since it alters your final score which makes it hard to compare.
     
  21. Magimagus

    Magimagus Notebook Consultant

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    Close to 5k but not quite at 1280x1024

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    I then tried pushing to 590/790 to see if I could break it, but got artifacts. Maybe one of the newer guys with 512 can do it.
     
  22. broaddd

    broaddd Notebook Enthusiast

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    Can anyone explain the driver numbering used at laptopvideo2go in terms of which is the latest/best (generally) for the MBP?

    I know magimagus is using 169.09 for example, but the site now refers to 169.44 (in the desktop branch) for crysis (and there is also 169.5x as well); and also a 167.xx series for laptops.

    Essentially, are there better options than 169.09 and if so which ones?

    Cheers!
     
  23. Magimagus

    Magimagus Notebook Consultant

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    You might wanna try a couple, each computer may be different, ive read some people say 174.16 worked good but I couldnt get it to work with my MBP, along with a couple others. I just use 169.09 because it seems to give me the best performance all around and especially in Doom 3 (where any other driver seems to lower my fps.)
     
  24. SonDa5

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    The drivers do make a difference. Not as much as the overall build of the machine.
     
  25. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    i can beat that, but i have to run in a different resolution (1280x1024 is taller than my res, 1440x900)

    what number do I need to hit at what resolution to get a victory here?
     
  26. Lysander

    Lysander AFK, raid time.

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    Break 5K @ 1280x1024 and you get yourself a pat on the back.
     
  27. Magimagus

    Magimagus Notebook Consultant

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    same here, but 3dmark should still let you run the test and give results when its done in that res, did for me
     
  28. EdiT808

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    althought that is pretty impressive i have to agree screen rez does make the difference. Only thing that is making me drop my jaw freaking reading the GPU peak at temp reading of 88 celcius? holy hell talk about toasty!
     
  29. Silv

    Silv Notebook Enthusiast

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    I wasn't able to install the drivers (telling me there's no compatible drivers found).

    I ran the tests at 1280x1024, and the most I could get was 4110.

    New 15" Penryn MBP, 2G RAM, 512mb graphics.

    How are you all managing to get the score so high>
     
  30. Magimagus

    Magimagus Notebook Consultant

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    Make sure you place the modified inf in the folder you extract the driver setup to.. also the card is underclocked to start with so if you want to play with the clocks youll need ntune or rivatuner, ATI tool etc..
     
  31. Silv

    Silv Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks Magimagus, I was missing the inf part.

    As for clocking, will it damage the graphics chips/cards if I go too high? I guess everyone has been slowly increasing it until they see artifacts - is that the safest way to do it?

    I've got the 8600GT - is ntune the app I need?

    Thanks again!

    Edit: Lastly, if I change clock speeds, will it adversely affect the system when I am running the same XP boot via Fusion?