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    MBA's temp. reached 88C!

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by t3rom, Dec 3, 2008.

  1. t3rom

    t3rom Notebook Consultant

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    Today for the first time it reached 88C :eek:
     

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  2. Colton

    Colton Also Proudly American

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    Fans at 6200 RPM and your still at 88 C! :eek: This isn't good at all and if I were you I would monitor these temps VERY closely because if you fry a motherboard, there is a huge replacement fee.
     
  3. Tinderbox (UK)

    Tinderbox (UK) BAKED BEAN KING

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    Hi.

    Have you cleaned your cooling system, as a rising temperature might indicate a blockage.

    regards

    John.
     
  4. araharja

    araharja Notebook Consultant

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    and the sad thing is, u cant use cooler since MB/MBP does not have vent on the bottom of the laptop.
     
  5. dampfnudel

    dampfnudel Notebook Evangelist

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    What are you talking about?!? You can still use a cooler to keep temps. down on the MB/MBP.
     
  6. Seshan

    Seshan Rawrrr!

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    Vent's don't matter get a aluminum cooler with fans.
     
  7. t3rom

    t3rom Notebook Consultant

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    It's under 3-years Apple warranty, going to Genius Bar over the weekend.

    By the way the temp. seems stable now:
     

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  8. Colton

    Colton Also Proudly American

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    The CPU temperature limit is 80 Celsius for 10 years with Nvidia.

    The GPU temperature limit is 80-85 Celsius for 10 years for ATI.

    The GPU temperature limit is 105 Celsius for 6-9 months for Nvidia.
     
  9. acruxksa

    acruxksa Notebook Consultant

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    Meaning that it's technically supposed to last 10yrs. at 80c and less than that at 88c. :D :D :D :D :D

    I don't even remember what laptop I had in 1998, I think it was a Pentium MMX 233Mhz, but I've owned about 7 since then. Not everyone goes through a laptop every 1-2yrs, but I don't know anyone still using a laptop with a Pentium MMX 233 in it. Although there's a pretty good market for older 486 laptops in the HAM radio world because many older radios need older computers to program them.

    It can't hurt to take it in to the Genius's, perhaps there's an issue they can help with, like a bad fan, improperly seated heatsink or even a faulty cpu, but I'm betting they'll say it's normal to see temps that high for short periods. It's not desirable, but the reality is the cpu will probably last at least 3 yrs. at 90c or less.

    Please let us know what they tell you.
     
  10. trebuin

    trebuin Notebook Evangelist

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    The problem is that companies like nVidia are realizing this and are "encouraging" companies like Apple to max out the GPU temp. This is why Dell's M1330's are failing at only 6 months of use. nVidia never officially published the lifetime (defined at 10 years) limit of a GPU and instead took the failure temp and dropped it by a few degrees. That's why they had the horriffic failure rate for the 8xxx series.

    Their chipset is a different story. People have mentioned that their CPU underclocks for no reason sometimes...this is because chipset temp goes out of limits and either the fan has to turn on or the system has to slow down to cool down the chipset. My wife's computer happens to have an uncooled chipset and consequently failed after 8 mos of use. The refurbs lasted about a week each (HP).
     
  11. acruxksa

    acruxksa Notebook Consultant

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    All of which makes an extended warranty even more valuable. I've never been an extended warranty type, but I sprung for the extra cash to get 3yrs. of Apple care with my new Macbook primarily because it's essentially a first edition and is likely prone to have some issues.

    I really do hope they're able to help you t3rom, I'm just very jaded when it comes to customer service and believe that you'll probably have to have a complete failure before they do anything.
     
  12. domyalex

    domyalex Notebook Consultant

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    Uh... I'm a Master CS student specializing in AI; we run a *lot* of CPU intensive applications and my MBP sees 85-86C with fans @4k+ almost every other day (both cores running at 95%+). Idle temp is ~46, so it's not a cooling issue, just the amount of computation I request from the CPU. Sometimes, I need to keep it like that up to 4-6 hours.
    Long story short, after a year and half it's still going strong as the first day (*touches wood), so I'd say you are pretty safe. The people who make this hardware know what they are doing, as amazing as it sounds.

    The few occasion I had high temps for no particular reasons, turned out to be a combination of mds (spotlight indexer) running in the background, at the same time svchost decided to act weird in the Win XP vm.

    Don't worry to much and enjoy your lappy :)

    And yes, I do have the extended Apple care, just in case.
     
  13. acruxksa

    acruxksa Notebook Consultant

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    UH.................OK Master CS student. ;)
     
  14. trebuin

    trebuin Notebook Evangelist

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    Ditto, Intel's published CPU limits shouldn't be taken seriously (sarcasm).

    Actually, most people don't stress the CPU much unless they do a lot of encoding. So even if you do go over temp a lot, it shouldn't be an issue unless the chipset overtemps with it. If the chipset overtemps, you get a black screen while the computer seems to still function, or component failures (like my wife's laptop), or a total failure, which I haven't seen to date.

    GPU overtemps on the other hand are really common. Just look at the m1330.
     
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    I guess they are like Turbo engines (Run Hot)..
     
  16. Sam

    Sam Notebook Virtuoso

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    Did it constantly stay that way? Also, I recommend downloading iStat Pro widget on Dashboard, as you can quickly see if the CPU is being driven crazy (sometimes browsers, Firefox and Safari, go crazy and work the CPU), and sometimes just quitting the browser will stop the CPU from working at 50+% and lower your temperatures!
     
  17. Luke1708

    Luke1708 Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    i 2nd that...it's happened to me the other day..i had more than 35 tabs open in my firefox bowser...