The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    Looking for a good development Mac that wont break my budget.

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by Alchemist, Nov 4, 2008.

  1. Alchemist

    Alchemist Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    215
    Messages:
    1,124
    Likes Received:
    23
    Trophy Points:
    56
    All,

    Im a PC / Windows guy... not because the technology is better but just because thats where 90% of the users are and I need to write to the biggest market possible when developing software.

    That said, im looking for a Mac, primarily to do iPhone development. I would get the new pro which is drool worthy but cant justify it as a second machine and already have a tricked out 2.5ghz dell... and while i tried to talk myself into the white macbook its unevenly lit screen and bad construction on the model i saw at the store just really turned me off.

    So, what would folks recommend for development using XCode and the iPhone SDK? The main requirments are an intel mac with Leopard and 1gb or more of ram. Im open to laptops, desktops, etc.

    Thanks In Advance,

    Dan
     
  2. Harper2.0

    Harper2.0 Back from the dead?

    Reputations:
    2,078
    Messages:
    3,108
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    The cheapest Mac would be the base $999 model, which has 1 ram and a 2.1Ghz Intel processor. Unless you're going to buy second hand, or with an educational $100 discount, it doesn't get any cheaper than that.
     
  3. Alchemist

    Alchemist Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    215
    Messages:
    1,124
    Likes Received:
    23
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Yep, although you can still get some of the 2.1s with combo drives for $899 here and there. I REALLY tried to talk myself into it, but the screen just doesnt cut it... My mom just got a $399 vista notebook that runs circles around its screen... apple really dropped the ball there IMO.

    Right now i keep going back and forth between the new macbook $1299 model, an iMac $1199 model, a used macbook pro ($1000-$1400) or even a previous gen iMac... saw a few of the white 2ghz imacs for around $700 used.

    Id prefer portability... but really have no frame of reference on how much screen realestate XCode requires to be productive.
     
  4. chyidean

    chyidean Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    25
    Messages:
    469
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I'm surprised no one has mentioned the mini, as it is the cheapest Macintosh, and seeing how he said he is open to desktops as well. Is coding resource intensive enough to justify the purchase of a more upscale, expensive model?

    You also mentioned how you already have a current Dell. The Mini would be fairly suitable as you can use your existing model.
     
  5. fastrandstrongr

    fastrandstrongr Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    146
    Messages:
    517
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    how about the refurbished macbook pro? i think they restock every tuesday, but dont quote me on that. they had the previous model at 1349 last i checked.
     
  6. gengerald

    gengerald Technofile Extraordinaire

    Reputations:
    674
    Messages:
    1,961
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    There will be a limited Black Friday Mac Sale, but the Mac Mini is the best suggestion by way of price, props to Chyidean.
     
  7. Stunner

    Stunner Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    154
    Messages:
    1,141
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Try using eclipse if possible. I am a CS major and my friend who has a mac says that it does the auto error-checking function much better than that of Xcode. And as for a computer I think the low end aluminum macbook would suit you well...
     
  8. Mercellus

    Mercellus Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    26
    Messages:
    84
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    If I had to choose a machine purely for development purposes, I would choose the 13-inch Aluminum MacBook because of the improved integrated graphics it offers which will help if you've got a lot of application opened up. If you're really on a tight budget you could probably get away with a Mac mini and a KVM switch to use your existing peripherals and display.
     
  9. Harper2.0

    Harper2.0 Back from the dead?

    Reputations:
    2,078
    Messages:
    3,108
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
  10. LongLiveLife

    LongLiveLife Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    14
    Messages:
    228
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    or, you can get a refurb pro model from apple. go to store, and scroll down. i believe they come with a 1-year warranty, and cost very little.
     
  11. ZaZ

    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

    Reputations:
    4,982
    Messages:
    34,001
    Likes Received:
    1,420
    Trophy Points:
    581
    Since you're considering a Mac notebook and you're not moving it much, I'd vote for the Mini. It's basically a Mac notebook without the screen, which in this case is a bonus since you dislike the screen anyway. You could hook up any screen you want. The best place to get them is from Apple.com. That's where I got mine. Mine looked new without the fancy packaging, which is great cause I'd rather not pay for it. Plus when you buy from Apple you get the full warranty. There's none on there right now, but keep checking back as they go quickly when they are put on there. eBay is another option if you can't wait.
     
  12. Robgunn

    Robgunn Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    163
    Messages:
    383
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    What language though?

    Of course developing Java in Xcode blows. Apple even says to use another IDE. For small scale stuff I use TextMate and love it, it is simply awesome. I use it for Perl, Python, and Obj-c. Xcode + IB make a good combo too for being 'free'.

    BTW, +1 for mini.
     
  13. Alchemist

    Alchemist Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    215
    Messages:
    1,124
    Likes Received:
    23
    Trophy Points:
    56
    As far as i know ill be using Objective C and the iPhone SDK. While ive dabbled in about everything for the PC over the last 20yrs the mac is a new beast to slay so at this point I dont know what other options are even available for iPhone development other than the 'official' sdk et al. Which you need to use anyway if you want apps in the app store from what I understand.