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    Let's jam this into Macbook Pro (2010) xD

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by DJRiful, Mar 6, 2010.

  1. DJRiful

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    There's no way they'd put that into the MBP.
     
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    Even if Apple could do so, I'd prefer they not.

    The MBP is already expensive enough without having the expensive 120 Hz screen needed for 3D vision that most people will never need or use.
     
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    They could make the MBP an extra thousand and people would still buy it. I just
    think the battery life hit and the extra heat would ruin the idea.
     
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    There is a huge difference between mobile and desktop graphic card.
    You may expect it have the same architecture that can support DX11 but dont even think about if it will have the same processing power.
     
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    even an ati 5670 is asking too much for the next update. I believe it'll be either a gt330m or an ati 5650.
     
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    that'd be funny, even if just to see how high Apple would jack up the price of such a machination.

    as with the last poster, I too expect something along the lines of a mid-range 300 series GPU from nVidia or perhaps a 5650 from ATI in the refresh.....
     
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    With the current chassis, that video card would blow up your laptop and burn down your house.
     
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    bingo.

    laptops would, however, provide an intriguing space for the 3D without glasses tech.

    (yes, it exists. it uses a film sitting on the screen. if anyone would like to read about it, I can provide links)

    yea well...here's hoping you're wrong this time. :(

    if HP can do legit GPUs in the Envy line which are no thicker than MBP's...Apple can do it too.
     
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    Yeah, an ati 5830 would be awesome! Anything but the ty 3xxm series.
     
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    Why would you think Apple would even consider something like this? They'd need a whole new line of laptops for it and focus on a different market than they do now.
     
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    The Envy line doesn't have a disc drive. A disc drive takes up a significant amount of space.
     
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    then damn it, Apple has my permission to dump the f**king disc drive.

    how often do you put a disc in that drive in 2010? about never. I'd get more use out of a good GPU than I would out of an optical media drive at this point in time. think about your *actual* usage for a disc drive. be honest with yourself. you can do without it easily.
     
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    Well, I guess that would be up to Apple to drop the disc drive. I still work with CD's and make DVD's, so I actually benefit from having a disc drive.
     
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    HP Envy has much better heat dissipation capacity than MBP. So with the current design, MBP won't be able to handle very powerful components.
     
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    I just got off the phone with Steve, he said that the MBP will have GTX 480M level graphics on its upcoming release in 2015.
     
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    I still work with CD and DVD and burn a lot of CDs and DVDs myself, but I don't mind if Superdrive is removed in lieu of high-end discrete graphic card as long as they are supplying the slim external superdrive without additional price.
    External drives would be cheaper to replace too when its broken. (or when you're home, you can always use desktop PC's internal DVD-RW drive which is only about $30 nowadays and use external enclosure, when its broken, you can easily replace the $30 drive)
    Then again, I'm just a minority in this matter, I am sure a lot of other users would still prefer to have the internal superdrive. :)

    By then the GTX 480M can only play games from Big Fish, not EA :D
     
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    I don't care about the graphics card on the macbook, as long as it can handle 2d DCC fine. Even if it did have the latest graphics card, I still would have to buy and install windows to play any decent game. If I'm gaming, I'm doing it on my desktop, my gaming laptop, or xbox (eww) not my portable stylish macbook.
     
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    I don't think they'll throw in a high end GPU, even if it came with no disc drive. But a decent mid range card with the i5 processor and no disc drive would be very reasonable. And for the price, they can easily throw in an external drive if they aren't lazy. :)
     
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    The world is not for you only. GPU matters nowaday, a lot of application are starting to take use of GPU. Flash 10.1, Photoshop CS4+, and many more.
     
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    You don't need a powerful GPU for GPU acceleration.
     
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    ..... HU .... you can boost it a LITTLE with a weaker GPU but if you are doing video editing or encoding in software that supports it the difference between a midrange card and a top of the line card can be HOURS saved.
    and MOST of the current GPU accelleration is designed and optimized for the current higher midrange GPU's and the HIGH end cards.

    Example in Maya the difference between the 9600m and the 280 can be over 3 hours saved in a render. granted this is for graphics professionals but all of this is in the mainstream and cunsumer applications alredy and does not seem to be slowing down
     
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    If your going to be doing heavy encoding or rendering, your going to be on a desktop, or mobile workstation like. That's like the argument for IPS displays, if your doing color critical work, your on an external monitor; more resolution for workspace is much more important. Honestly, the 9600m GT can currently handle 2d acceleration fine, not much more is needed. Most people probably wouldn't want more gpu performance if it meant a larger form factor, impacts batter life, especially if it ups the price.
     
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    plus valve is porting their stuff to mac this april.
     
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    definitley! in my car I just bought a cheap headunit that only does SD cards, usb sticks and AUX in. its cheaper than a cd player unit because its cheaper to make! cd's suck!
     
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    I would like to see i7 UM or LM in MBP 13' with gt330 with disc drive! and keep the thin platform
     
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    Love the quality of that article. "Increase battery life by 4 times...300 per cent". :rolleyes:
    But more battery life would be awesome for everyone. :)
     
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    more graphics power :)... does anybody have a clue if its tomorrow?
     
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    those batteries only have 40-50 charge cycle so that's why Apple release Battery replacement plan for $99.

    So every so often your laptop battery need to change and you need to give Apple $99 to get new one. way to go..!.


    Just kidding!
     
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    Apple always skimps on video :( My scrawny 8600m gt just doesn't cut it (and why do they insist on underclocking and giving the 128mb instead of 256?)

    The one thing I do like about my MBP is it's solid aluminum body. Hopefully my asus g73 will feel about as good when I get it.
     
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    The 8600m gt and 9600m gt were pretty good in its time. Apple just needs to do a refresh.

    Also Apple was one of the first to use the 9400m IGP with switchable graphics.
     
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    I just hope they dont underclock their refreshed dedicated video cards like they did with the 8600m and 9600m.
     
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    I'm pretty sure all the laptop dell, hp and etc. except alienware are all underclock for battery and heat prevention. (reduce fans activity which will burn your battery faster)
     
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    its not just the gaming machines, MOST of the ACER, ASUS, Toshiba, HP, and Lenovo machines I have worked on over the years were either reference clocked or in some cases overclocked
     
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    You're pretty wrong about that. Sorry, if you want high-performance hardware, you're going to have to get a Dell, HP, or etc. Oops, I forgot, Steve Jobs won't let you run OS X on anything but his own mediocre hardware. Bummer, eh... :D

    P.S.: On the other hand, there's no software available for Macs that needs high-performance hardware, so I guess there's really no problem.
     
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    lol..seriously?
     
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    Oops, no, my bad. Forgot about those shelves and shelves of Mac software at Best Buy. :rolleyes: How many games are available for Macs? Is it two or three these days? How about professional CAD? 3D modeling? And, no, you don't need a high-performance GPU for Photoshop.
     
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    Or you can overclock them yourself if you hacked the firmware.