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    Less expensive apple laptops?

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by OneHit, Jul 31, 2008.

  1. OneHit

    OneHit Notebook Guru

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    I heard apple stated they are gonna be releasing something due out in sept that no other company will be able to compete with (as said on g4 yes I watch that show). So does this mean you will be able to get the MB and MBP for much cheaper than they are now? I ask this because I need a laptop for college I have a m1530 right now still on the 21 day warrenty and would like to know if it will be worth returning it and waiting for the new apple laptops. I am worried about the price because I don't want to spend any more than 1400. I really want an apple that can games up to par with the M1530 but not spend 500 more for the apple logo (I realize I would have to run bootcamp with vista. I realize it will be all speculation but what are my chances of the next MB or MBP will be affordable while still being able to run games at decent graphics. Be nice to me if my typing is a little off I typed this all on an iphone cause my Internet is down thank you.
     
  2. Flounder911

    Flounder911 Notebook Consultant

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    dont quote me on this, but i'm reasonably sure the apply laptop will never be able to run the games with the same smoothness as a windows based laptop, the partitioning of the laptop to get the vista will eat up ram etc

    Once again, dont quote me but i'm reasonably sure that the apple laptops will not run the game etc as well as a windows based laptop
     
  3. cdnalsi

    cdnalsi Food for the funky people

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    These are all rumors. Nobody knows if Apple will lower their prices.
    Anyways, if you don't really want to switch to OS X, keep your m1530. It would be a real shame if you got a Macbook Pro only to run Windows through bootcamp. Macs are all about the OS.

    About gaming, all the 1530s I see on Dell's page feature the 8600m GT GPU the same as the Macbook Pro. I know for sure MPB's GPU is DDR3, I'm not sure about Dells. So the MBP is on par with the m1530 or even better considering DDR2/3 specs.

    But anyways, you're not just paying for the logo, as I mentioned before, OS X is great, build quality is amazing, especially on the MBP, it's thin, it's light etc.

    Again, don't buy the Mac if you're planning on running only windows on it.

    Heh, when booting Vista on a MBP, you get a Windows machine with the said specs. It will run exactly like a Windows machine.

    edit for the OP, have you looked on Apple's Refurbished list?
    http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals
     
  4. OneHit

    OneHit Notebook Guru

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    Im not only gonna run windows on it, this is gonna be my main school notebook and all of my school work will be done on OS X. Yeah I was looking at the return list and they still are expensive. Another reason I was waiting for the next line of notebooks is because the MB and MBP have the defective g86 chipset that you hear so much about in the dell forums. Even though people say it should be alright the 8600M GT still scares me.
     
  5. cdnalsi

    cdnalsi Food for the funky people

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    And the Dell doesn't have those GPUs?

    I've heard mixed stories about this whole nVidia thing. Mine hasn't got a glitch since I bought it, a year ago. I've got the 15" 2.4 with 256 8600m GT DDR3 Macbook Pro.

    And the Macbook has integrated graphics by Intel. :D

    Yeah, I'm looking forward to Apple's next notebook line-up.
    I guess the bottom line would be:

    - keep the Dell if you really need a computer right now, or
    - give it back and save some more until Apple introduces new notebooks..

    :D
     
  6. r0k

    r0k Notebook Evangelist

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    I put the Ubuntu Live CD in my son's Dell. It booted up with no problem and the sound worked, the wireless worked and it even saw our printers with no problem. Is Ubuntu as good as OS X? No. Is it as bad as Windows? No. I left Win XP on the machine "so he can run his games", but my finger hovered over the "install to hard drive" icon for a very long time. Hehe. Maybe I should boot from the Ubuntu Live CD on my work laptop. Nah. I wouldn't be able to resist the temptation to install it over that faulty Win XP image perpetrated by our IT folks. ;)

    I've given some consideration to that new $300 Dell E laptop that comes with Linux. It would make a more affordable option than a macbook or Air but I wouldn't have to deal with Windows. My primary machine would still be my Macbook. Perhaps these machines will finally put downward pressure on Apple pricing because they offer a less expensive and still viable alternative to windows notebooks.
     
  7. Arquis

    Arquis Kojima Worshiper

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    Yes they do.... they already do. When you're booted into Vista, OS X is not running in the background or anything... It's just Vista. It's not using up any more RAM to run Vista.... It's running it like any ordinary Windows computer, and it played games as well as any ordinary Windows computer. There is NO performance hit when running Windows.
     
  8. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    ...sigh...

    people making commentary about things they just don't know about...

    as said before, this is completely false. 0 performance penalty. its just like dual booting windows/linux. no performance hit. of course, both OSX and windows are NOT RUNNING AT THE SAME TIME.

    if they were, then there would be a performance penalty. (and that is an option, and there is a performance penalty)

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    as far as a new apple laptop no one can compete with, its most likely NOT going to be really cheap. its probably still going to be expensive and just *unmatchable*
     
  9. Arquis

    Arquis Kojima Worshiper

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    Yeah, I'm pretty confident the new ones will be expensive as well. Apple will just add some new features to them, make them look nice, and possibly tout this new processing platform I've been hearing rumours about as something unmatched, and that it all makes it worth the price in the end. "Competitive pricing" for Apple basically means "add in stuff other guys don't have and make it seem like it's worth the extra $1000." lol.
     
  10. SaferSephiroth

    SaferSephiroth The calamity from within

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    FAIL

    for min 10 characters...
     
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  11. SaferSephiroth

    SaferSephiroth The calamity from within

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    just stick with your dell and run your games, no new MBP is going to be 1400. Not trying to be an *******, just being realistic. Get a refurbished one from apple if you really want an apple.
     
  12. Sam

    Sam Notebook Virtuoso

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    That is incorrect. Partitioning the notebook is partitioning the hard drive, which, unless you leave maybe 2 GB free space, will have no effect in your general computing experience. Boot Camp natively boots Windows, so all RAM is devoted to Windows when its running, just as all RAM is devoted to Mac OS X when that is running. There's no sharing of that when you are using Boot Camp to run Windows.
     
  13. Lethal Lottery

    Lethal Lottery Notebook Betrayer

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    all i got to say is the 1100 doller macbook is a joke to society. a dvd rom drive? come on.
     
  14. Sam

    Sam Notebook Virtuoso

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    I agree with that. The MacBook should not still have a Combo Drive in this day and age. I do wish Apple fixed that up.
     
  15. Arquis

    Arquis Kojima Worshiper

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    Yeah, seriously. Who even makes those drives anymore? My 4 year old POS desktop had 2 DVD burners. I'm hoping that they change it in the revision.
     
  16. r0k

    r0k Notebook Evangelist

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    I'd be willing to deal with a dvd rom or even no optical in a $400 OS X notebook. It's kind of scandalous that the 'Air costs so much and they don't simply hand you the external drive with the base 'Air.

    It's kind of scandalous that the base macbook costs 3x an entry level windows notebook. I can see some premium but 3x?!?

    As somebody who already owns Apple hardware, I don't want to undermine the value of Apple hardware, but I would really like to see a lower entry price point than the Mini desktop and the Macbook notebook.

    I'm considering a Dell E with Ubuntu because it's only $300 and I'm a loyal Apple customer so while I recognize the value of OS X, I'm not ready to spend triple the money for my next low-end "road machine". I'd rather deal with Ubuntu quirks, which btw lately haven't been all that bad.