The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    Leopard+Azureus+Airport = kernel panic?

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by saturnotaku, Nov 11, 2007.

  1. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    4,879
    Messages:
    8,926
    Likes Received:
    4,707
    Trophy Points:
    431
    I was downloading some demos from Azureus, basically the first time I had used the program since upgrading to Leopard. Things were going along fine when I got the dreaded "You need to restart your computer now" screen of death. Looking at the log, there was a kernel panic in the Atheros/Airport driver.

    In a brief Google search, I came across a thread where others were experiencing the same thing. Link. I'm giving Transmission another go and so far so good. Anyone else using Leopard with an Airport and Azureus reporting similar issues?
     
  2. sysphile

    sysphile Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    21
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Same thing happened to me.
     
  3. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    4,879
    Messages:
    8,926
    Likes Received:
    4,707
    Trophy Points:
    431
    Left Transmission running all night and no problems to report. So this has to be an issue with Azureus. While I didn't care for Transmission at first, after playing around with it, I may just keep it.
     
  4. cdnalsi

    cdnalsi Food for the funky people

    Reputations:
    433
    Messages:
    1,605
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Yeah it happens to me sometimes too.. It's pretty random though..
     
  5. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    4,879
    Messages:
    8,926
    Likes Received:
    4,707
    Trophy Points:
    431
    Hopefully this issue will be addressed either through updates of Azureus, Leopard, or both. 10.5.1 is supposed to have some 802.11x fixes in it.
     
  6. cashmonee

    cashmonee Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    787
    Messages:
    2,859
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Azureus kept knocking my AEBS offline when I would leave it up for long periods. So I ditched Azureus for Transmission and am not looking back.
     
  7. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    4,879
    Messages:
    8,926
    Likes Received:
    4,707
    Trophy Points:
    431
    That's not really the issue we're discussing here.

    However, I've been running Transmission non-stop for about 20 hours now with no problems. I'll be keeping it up for another day or two to see what happens.
     
  8. CitizenPanda

    CitizenPanda Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    112
    Messages:
    1,240
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Transmission is an OS X only app isn't it? I wouldn't expect it to cause Kernel Panics. I've been using it for my torrenting since I got my Mac though regardless.
     
  9. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    4,879
    Messages:
    8,926
    Likes Received:
    4,707
    Trophy Points:
    431
    Anything, hardware or software, can cause problems at any time for any reason, regardless of whether you're running a Mac or Windows.

    In this case, it's been over 24 hours of running Transmission non-stop and no problems. *fingers crossed*
     
  10. Percybut

    Percybut Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    222
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    transmission for the win ...

    <3 transmission!
     
  11. cashmonee

    cashmonee Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    787
    Messages:
    2,859
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    I understand that. What I was trying to show is that Azureus has a habit of not playing nice with AirPort cards and routers. I was recommending you go with a more compatible solution such as Transmission.
     
  12. Geek94

    Geek94 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    169
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Does this only happen if you use Azureus with an Airport or does it crash when Azureus is used on Leopard? I haven't install a BT client yet and I am just interested.
     
  13. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    4,879
    Messages:
    8,926
    Likes Received:
    4,707
    Trophy Points:
    431
    From my experience and what I've been reading, this issue is peculiar to Leopard. Transmission has proven itself more reliable, as I left it running for more than 48 hours straight with no hiccups at all.
     
  14. orthorim

    orthorim Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    26
    Messages:
    386
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I am betting this is not Azureus itself but rather the way Azureus opens TCP and UDP connections that kills the Airport driver.

    Azureus would always knock out my DSL router - too many open connections. I had to set the number of outgoing connection to something small, but even then it would sometimes die. Then I upgraded my router to a WRT54GL with Tomato open source firmware and no problems anymore.

    Not that it matters too much what's the cause of course ;) just wanted to mention it. Use Transmission and be happy.

    Personally, I am going to wait for the .1 release of Leopard before upgrading.
     
  15. redstyles

    redstyles Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Try this..... Log into your Airport, go into advanced, under the IPv6 tab change it to "link local only". it fixed my azureus problem.

    Azureus also worked a lot better when i went into Internet/NAT and enabled the default host to my static ip.
     
  16. fanblade

    fanblade Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Sorry guys, but I just experienced a kernel panic while downloading a torrent with Transmission v1.01. I'm running Leopard (10.5.1) on a Mac mini (1.83GHz Core 2 Duo). First, I noticed that my torrent had lost its connection. Then I clicked on the Airport icon in the menu bar when the system instantly froze and I got the "You need to restart your computer..." message. It looks to me like this could be a more general OS X 10.5 problem, not just with Azureus. I haven't tried the IPv6 ideas posted above, yet (I'm waiting to see if it happens again). If anybody else hears news about this kernel panic please post. Thanks.
     
  17. Thomas

    Thomas McLovin

    Reputations:
    1,988
    Messages:
    5,253
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    It has a linux version, I believe.
     
  18. cashmonee

    cashmonee Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    787
    Messages:
    2,859
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    I have downloaded dozens of torrents using Leopard and Transmission with zero issues. It may not have even been Transmission that caused the panic. Even if it was, it sounds like it only happened once, which cannot be described as a real issue. Wait and see if it happens more, then worry.
     
  19. circa86

    circa86 Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    685
    Messages:
    2,463
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    it really is a shame there aren't better torrent clients for Mac, Transmission works well and all, but compared to uTorrent it feels really dumbed down, but every update there are some major upgrades and improvements.

    I have no reason to use my Mac for torrenting, as I don't even have a torrent program on it. but transmission is definitely the way to go for now on a mac.