It's official, 10.5.3 somehow broke Source games under XP in Bootcamp.

How does a Leopard update affect freaking Windows? I don't know.

Half-Life 2 crashes within 5-10 minutes of loading a game.

Portal crashed in the first 10 seconds after loading the game.

Counter-Strike: Source crashes in the midst of loading a server every single time.

And by crash, I mean crash XP to where I have to hard reset the machine.

Further testing will provide evidence as to whether other applications or XP itself are affected.

The day before installing 10.5.3, I had nothing better to do and spent 4 hours with Counter-Strike and it ran beautifully for the duration.

No other updates/anything touched the Mac during this time.

P.S. This is more well-known, but my Starcraft also broke in OSX after 10.5.3. Apparently that and Diablo II don't play well with 10.5.3.

P.P.S. I guess Apple is forcing me to be more productive, killing off my games and all.

P.P.P.S. Since the beta in Tiger, Bootcamp has a bunch of bootup issues. Booting to XP potentially freezes in a black screen, the loading bar screen, or the Welcome screen. I've actually had them consecutively before. All require hard reboots. This has been a problem since I've started using Bootcamp and has persisted through 2 re-installs. Also, very annoying to restart my Mac 4 times just to get into Windows (just to get spit in the eye once I try to play some Portal and another freeze).

 

Works fine for me. Installed 10.5.3 when it came out a few days ago. Played CS:Source last night. No problem for about 1.5 hours of play, no crashes or anything else I noticed. I dont have your boot problems too. Only problem I sometimes have in windows is that it doesnt play nice with my firewire 800 external hard disk. It sometimes causes XP to take forever to shut down.

 

Wanna test out HL2 or Portal for me? If either run for half an hour or so, you don't have the same problem as I.

 

Do you get a bluesreen of does it just freeze? I am only using the default bootcamp drivers (version 2.01 or whatever the newest ones are), doing that might help. The graphics drivers are not the best but seem stable.

I will try running HL2. But I dont think it should make a differance.

If it was really OSX that messed this up then the only thing I can think of is that 10.5.3 upgraded the firmware of some internal component (maybe the graphics card) or that spotlight indexed and messed something up on the bootcamp partition. Both of these are highly unlikely.

Sorry cant really help you except telling you to try different drivers, reinstall the games, or reinstalling windows. Not great options I know.

 

The Macbook Pro firmware was updated along with 10.5.3, now that I think about it.

I guess I'll try reinstalling the graphics drivers, maybe going back to the original Bootcamp ones. How would I perform the latter function, exactly?

 

If you insert the leopard dvd during windows it will let you install the drivers. After install you need to use apple software update to upgrade to the newest drivers.

If that is too much work check out this forum post for some help:
http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=97813
(i will get in trouble if I give you a direct link so just follow the chain and you will find it.)

 

There's a newer update on Apple, apparently.

Do you think it's possible to simply install these over what I currently have or should I wipe the drivers and then install?

 

That's what you're supposed to do, actually. Install the BootCamp 2.0 drivers from your Leopard DVD, then update to 2.1. I wish Apple would offer for download an .iso of the full 2.1 driver set, but that's not the case, at least at this point in time.

 

I just downloaded Bootcamp 2.1 from Apple. It's a 200+MB file and an executable. Is this not of which you speak?

What I meant to ask is, if I installed newer Nvidia drivers over the original Bootcamp ones, should I try and install Bootcamp drivers over the Nvidia ones or find a way to uninstall what I currently have first?

 

To be on the safe side, uninstall your nVidia drivers before rolling back to Boot Camp drivers. You should have also uninstalled the Boot Camp graphics drivers before installing 3rd party nVidia drivers.

 

Random. Updating to 2.1 drivers updated everything *but* the graphics drivers. It actually removed the drivers, so I'm looking for the bootcamp 8600m drivers by themselves or just dl'ing the latest laptopvideo2go drivers and trying them on.

For the record, Apple Software Update gets me nothing.

 

All's well that ends well.

I guess it was a combination of the new MBP firmware with a 174 series of Forceware drivrs. After updating to 2.1 Bootcamp drivers along with a new 175 series Forceware drivers from laptopvideo2go with the modded infs, the past half hour of testing seems fine.

So I guess if anyone happens to come across the same issues, try what I did, it might help.

P.S. Haven't had a boot freeze in about half a dozen boots. *knock on wood*

 

Well, all my Steam games work just great under XP.

 

some of the 174 drivers were bad. it may have *just* been a driver issue.

 

Yeah, which is why I was confused since it seemed to work fine preceding the EFI update.

 

uhhh....Im using XP Pro, 174.93 l2go driver... 2.1 Bootcamp drivers... updated to 10.5.3... still haven't run into one problem with my MBP.

CSS, HL2, TF2, Portal, Doom 3, and all my other stuff dealing with steam has been fine..

sorry to hear your misfortune

 

problem solved. close thread?