Expectations for the new Apple laptops

1- processor:
well i expect for the apple laptops to have yonah dual core processors this january .. the 1.5 and the 1.66 yonah LV for the ibook... and the 1.83 and the 2.16 for the powerbook.

2- display:
all have SXGA resolution with an optional UXGA in the powerbooks.. they might have a wide screen 13" (as this kind of laptops becoming so popular)

3- hard disk:
5400rpm standard for all of em.. and an optional 7200rpm for the powerbooks.... with a 60gb standard for the ibooks .. 80gb standard for the powerbooks

4- Super drive:
standard on all of their machines.. but with different speeds, faster in the powerbooks..

 

It is alread known that iBooks will be 12", 13", and 14" and Powerbooks will be 15" and 17".

The 12" Powerbook is dead.

 

I expect Intel Powerbooks to be redesigned with all-Carbon-Fibre chassis

 

i dont think that there's a point of having 3 versions of the iBook
12" 13" 14" ..

its either that u have the 2 existing versions.. or replace them with the 13" wide screen...

 

... or 12" XGA, 14" XGA, 14" widescreen

 

I hope there are no tacky "intel inside" stickers. lol

 

the powerbooks are also going the way of the imac in that it is also going to have isight integrated in the chassis.

 

dont u think that it would be better for apple to have the i sight on both of their systems? .. so they could have a great offer that most of the other brands wouldnt dare to compete with?

 

Yeah, sorry, I was wrong about the iBook. Right now it looks like it'll be:

13.3" Widescreen iBook
15" Powerbook (Apparently 20-25% thinner)
17" Powerbook

 

I've read that 20-25% thinner bit somewhere too, but I really find it hard to believe. What are PBs at now - 1.1"? So they're saying the new ones will be 0.825" - 0.88"? I'll believe it when I see it

 

I hope once Macs make the switch over to Intel CPUs, that their hardware will run Windows as well.

 

I read somewhere that Apple has said: on their part they will not do anything to inhibit users from installing Windows ... but I guess we'll have to wait and see

I'm with you tho - I hope Windows will install/run without a hitch on the Mactels.

 

well having the mactels to run windows is logical.. after all, most of the ppl dont want to get an apple cuz they dont wanna feel that they're alone in the mac world and wouldnt be abla to work with the windows appliacations..

who wouldnt get those beautiful machines with their high quality if they could work with windows?
they might double their market share in one year


5-battery:
i expect them to have the same battery life.. or a 15% increase.. nothing more.. the huge increase in bateryt life might come with the merom

 

wow, that would be so insanely thin. that would be close to half the thickness of my ibook!

As for not having isight in both ibook and powerbook, the powerbook is the luxury model. so it makes sense that it would only be in that and not in the ibook.

 

In all honesty, why would anyone WANT to put Windows on a beautiful machine?! Especially something crappy and wasteful like Vista! Frankly, the main selling point of a Mac now, and what will remain, is the OS and how well it is integrated with the hardware. Since Apple has complete control over the computers it runs on, OS X can be specialized and optimized for certain components only. This allows for more stability and a better OS experience.

I mean, who is going to run an inferior operating system on an OS X notebook?! With the notable exception of software compatability, XP and Vista have nothing over OS X.

Battery life should probably increase more than that, but perhaps not. What is for certain is that the Battery/Performance ratio increase will be astronomical!

As I see it, two things stand in the way of Apple success - price and software compatability. Price should go down with the new machines, especially in comparison to the performance you get. You won't be seeing HP or Dell-style prices, but you will get substantially more quality then those brands have!

As for software compatability, that is of course still an issue. However, Virtual PC should run Windows MUCH faster, since only the OS has to be emulated, not the processor. The PowerPC to x86 conversion ate up a lot of resources. Perhaps Apple will even create their own limited emulation software or WINE-esque compatability layer to run Windows programs. Who knows.

One other perk (for Linux users such as myself) is that OS X should run a number of *nix programs that simply wouldn't work on the PowerPC. Time will tell, of course.

 

There's a fairly useful article on this here-

http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0511intelibook.html

 

DAM... and I just bought a G4. dam loll.

 

OSX may be "superior" over Windows. But no one wants to try:
1. Use an OS that only like 3.1% of the world uses?
2. Lose the applications they have that are Windows-Only
3. Relearn to how to use an OS
4. And believe it or not, there are people out there that just don't like the OSX interface period. (It may be customizable, but not that I know of)

That's true and it would solve a lot of problems that people inexperienced with computers face.

About 90% of the world actually. Personally, I think Apple's marketshare would not increase if they did not allow Windows to be installed on its computers. If Windows was allowed to be installed on Macs, the general public would be more "open" to try it out and may in fact prefer it over Windows.

Yeah let's hope so

 

If Apple let the OS be put on any computer like dell etc...Apple would dominate the market today and windows would be in that 3%. and btw..its not 3...its more like 5.

And continuing to grow every year.

 

the ibook will have integrated isight.

 

Apple once initiated the "clone" program before Steve Jobs became CEO; they were losing money on it so he scrapped it. Putting the OS on other boxes would not help Apple. It's a software AND hardware company. Not only would they lose money because people might be tempted to buy a less expensive machine from another manufacturer, they could no longer control the hardware quality or the design that makes them so unique. Apple builds solid computers and shouldn't license the OS to crappy companies like Dell.

 

Spoken like a True Mac Zealot?

One thing you left out, Apple realized that they are losing out to the faster pace PC industry, they saw they just cannot keep up, and no one should have expected them too, as they are the only company doing their hardware. So they are starting to rely on the PC industry a little bit more, thus the reason for starting Intel line. Steve Jobs is a futuristic alright, as he can pretty much predict where the computer industry is going very accurately, and apparantly he see's that Intel is the next step.

I'm not saying they will license their OS to other companies, but the PC users out there will find a way to make the Mac OS to run on any PC. It's just a matter of time.

If you disagree on what I've said, I'm sorry but you're sadly mistaken if you think the Mac OS is a perfect operating system and is secure from any possibility from running on an intel machine, you're wrong as someone will find a way around it.

Humans aren't perfect, therefore someone will find that way.

 

Hoping there is a pc card slot in EVERY Mac notebook. Only the 15 and 17 PowerBooks have them now.

I made a brief and painful trip to the Dark Side as I needed a pc card slot.

Abandonded the project I planned to use with the PC. Just got a bad one and resolutions are difficult to come by with the brand I purchased.

susan

 

Sounds like you're not a "Wintel" fan (as Mac people say ). Well with any luck Macs will run OS X and Vista - this will allow max. compatability.

 

The unit I purchased had multiple hardware component failures. The RMA procedure is extremely slow and often is a HDD wipe only.

The unit is returned in 4 weeks, bad hardware untouched

XP may be a fine operating system. I have not had the pleasure due to the notebook manufacturer's weird warranty policies.

I have purchased a Bad Apple from time to time, but have never been forced to keep one. Apple has always assumed responsibility and made me whole.

Not inclined to "step out" on the Mac again as long as that continues

susan

 

Design- I really hope the 13.3W iBooks are alot thinner. and mabey a redesign cause i hate the cheap plastic look. I will bet that they come out with a black one to match their iPods. since they are geting rid of the 14 iBook, 12 iBook, and 12 powerbook, i think that the 13.3 iBook should be made of a material that is more standard for laptops and could even resemble a powerbook, just a thought.

Screen -nice glossy screen like a sony or fujitsu would be amazing.

 

I hope they put decent graphics cards in them. On the website they talk of amazing graphics when they have a 9700 or a 9550 in them. Thats crap on apple's part.

 

Perhaps a tablet is in the future. my crystal ball is very foggy, but Apple was recruiting for an Inkwell Technology engineer a short time ago.

Inkwell has been out of use at Apple since Jobs killed the Massage Pad in 1997.

We can only hope.

happy holidays!

 

as far as i know, they are only killing the 12 pbook and are going to 3 versions of the ibook, the 12,13, and 14.
try naming several other 12 in notebooks that have dedicated graphics, there are not many. So compared to other 12 inchers, it is quite powerful.
Whats so wrong with the ibook material? its much stronger then simple plastic. its some kinda poly thingamajig which is much stronger and can take a fair bit of abuse.
If they do start offering glossy screens, i hope its optional, as i really don't like the glare off of those glossy screens.

 

I'm actially surprised that Apple hasn't offered any glossy screens yet - most of the other competition has (with the few exceptions of Levono and such). I'd be egar to check out Apple's glossy screens if they offered any.

 

i hate the ibooks look. the inside looks like its a playskool toy. i dont mind the outside, but the all white is just too cheap looking. i think pearl white on the inside would look alot better.

why would they have a 12in, 13in, 14in ibook thats just stupid. if it was me i would have a 12-13.3 ibook,and 14,17powerbook

 

I expect 12" widescreens and better battery life when Apple makes a switch to Intel processors. I also would like a multiformat card reader and right click feature if possible.

 

ctrl click will give get the contextual menu if you are using a one button mouse.

susan

 

right click is much easier. although i doubt they will chance their button on the laptop.

 

i find that os x is mostly desingned for the single click mouse, which is why their stuff only comes with single click. I have found it to be just fine. when i use my windows laptop, i now find it ackward to have the right click key. i have come to like the single click button on my ibook. i find it to be no big deal since when you are doing something, your other hand is usually on the keyboard anyway, so to hit the ctrl key is no biggie.

 

OSX has supported the double-click feature for a long time...it's their hardware that hasn't. It makes Mac's unique...kind of like us Americans using the English system. It isn't the best system around, but it is unique and most importantly it works...more or less.

If apple can make the powerbook with the dual core merom processor, an actual 5 hour life runtime, the ability to dual-boot into Vista and OSX, and keep their classy look then I'll be one more person in line trying to get one.

 

Me too. The appeal of a notebook that can run two of the major OSes in the world is extremely appealing to most all consumers, I think. See the Apple Keynote - more info about the new laptops there.